Beaglebuddy said..
If there's anything to get hysterical about it's this, pretty much everything Barrack Ebola and the US government has said about ebola has happened opposite what they said would happen.
Sad how far leftist's like kiteboy dave find it necessary to politicize EVERYTHING, even ebola. Like it's racist to shut off immigration from infected places or quarantine people.
Makes you wonder if the far left stateist's actually want ebola to decimate the west, it would be the great equalizer putting the west on the same footing as the third world and enable governments to enact over reaching laws

Did he really draw politics into it? I also think that sometimes people have knee-jerk reactions to things, and at the same time you can have underwhelming responses to things.

Maybe it is time for a rethink on how to handle these outbreaks? Maybe the changing demographics of these areas where the outbreaks start means that we have to be a bit more aggressive in handling it.

Unfortunately, just 'closing the borders' to your country is not going to cut it. It may not even work as some places seem to have more porous borders than others. In Australia we probably have the best chance of doing this, but for some places it would be just about impossible.

So what is the answer then? Send in educated, professional teams from 1st world countries to help these nations in Africa? Or just let it take control and hope it doesn't affect you?

Imagine if you will, a nightmare scenario where it was allowed to run rampant in parts of Africa, while isolated from the USA and Australia. After a short time, the people that are left are immune to it. A greatly reduced population, but they are now all genetically immune to it, or carry antibodies for it. Either way, they are safe.

Now imagine a time after that, if that virus then became exposed to Australia and the USA? Can you imagine what that would do to us? I think I prefer a scenario where the world tries to prevent it becoming a epidemic.

Borders can be secured if governments really want to, they are left porous for political reasons. It defies all logic to limit transit from these infected places. I read how they are shutting borders and flights in other African countries from the ebola hot spots and there are no cries of racism yet the west is allowing direct flights, it's insane.
There is however hope of a vaccine, they have one now that is effective in monkeys.

Beaglebuddy said without a single trace of irony or self-awareness..
.. Barrack Ebola ... leftist's like kiteboy dave find it necessary to politicize EVERYTHING, even ebola.... Makes you wonder if the far left stateist's actually want ebola to decimate the west

that's gold

kiteboy dave said..
Meanwhile the West Nile Virus killed 5,600 americans in 2012. Did you catch the media hysteria about that?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Nile_virus_in_the_United_States

Meanwhile the flu kills between 3000 & 49,000 yanks per year.
Pffft 2 cases of Ebola is much more exciting !!!

I agree, but this isnt no typicial flu. (Ignore the Spanish Flu for a moment)

The growth rate is exponential- the nornal flu doesnt have a 70% death rate.

Quick maths,

Current= 8000 (Reality 20,000)
16000 (40,000)
32000 (80,000)
64000 (160,000)
128000 (320,000) < If this many people have it in 4 months its going to change the world. (I so hope I am 100% wrong and it gets under control)

Its easy for me to make commets here sitting at work, but the world has a fight on its hands.

I believe story is about to break about how Dallas hospital procedures went out the window the night the ebola patient arrived, all sorts of breaches inc nurses improvising own safety gear, hosp not isolating patient,ebola samples going thru normal testing channels, nurses undoing own protective gear then going straight on to nurse other patients. Despite all that, only one infection, which says something.

kiteboy dave said..
I believe story is about to break about how Dallas hospital procedures went out the window the night the ebola patient arrived, all sorts of breaches inc nurses improvising own safety gear, hosp not isolating patient,ebola samples going thru normal testing channels, nurses undoing own protective gear then going straight on to nurse other patients. Despite all that, only one infection, which says something.

Yes it says something.
It says that even just one patient in a supposedly contained environment can still pass on the disease to another person.

There are always failures to adhere to protocols so it can't be said that the failure in this case is an unusual never to be repeated event.
In fact just the opposite.
If there are failures at this early stage when the situation is supposed to be contained and safe, what sort of every day failures will there be when there are more prospective patients and they are walking the streets undiagnosed.

Keep in mind that in america, health care and sickness benefits do not cover everyone.
There is a big proportion of people who, if they report in sick with possible ebola, will be totally unsupported by anyone.
There are also a big number of non citizens, who have jumped a border somewhere,.. illegally.
They will not be in a big hurry to check in sick, so will not be diagnosed until they fall over dead.
By then, the cat will be well and truly 'out of the bag'.
There is a far better chance the disease would be more effectively contained in australia or europe than it would be in the good old u s of a.

pweedas said..
Hot off the press,.. another member of the hospital staff has been isolated due to ebola,.

You would have to wonder how slack the procedures were when two people have now been infected from a patient who died after just a few days.

It appears the CDC is having a rethink about its casual response.

http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/20141014_cdc_says_it_missed_opportunities_to_contain_ebola.html?1i

just don't say they are chemtrailing ebola please.

Closing boarders simply won't work. Unless you say no traffic in or out full stop from our country. Last week i was surfing with a guy from Israel, a guy from Texas, a guy from Florida, i went to dinner with someone who had just travelled home from Fiji and the Guadeloupe islands as well as another who had just flown in from Scotland. All these people moved through airports and walked past other people from all over the world who have and could have travelled directly from Ebola effected areas. In fact many Asians were wearing face masks and i guess its only now i understand why. AT the time i had no idea.

As far as hospitals a few years back when the hospital told us my sister would more than likely not make the night with swine flew (She already has Lung and health issues) i sat all night and day for three days with her and only 30% of the staff wore the recommended protection.