Personally I think we have it in the wrong time of year, summer our sun sets normally around 8 why have it light later.

The only thing it helps is the business community who has to deal the the eastern states like my company.

Now daylight saving through the winter months where the sun sets a 6 would (in theory) be more logical and beneficial.

I know it certainly sucked for going out for a dawn patrol surf at 5am, that changed to 6am with all the crowds.

I also got in the poo a few time sailing by the sun (whilst wearing a watch mind you) and getting home way late

Thats my thoughts on the matter other people will have their opinions and ideas

LOVE IT.

Personally I think we have it in the wrong time of year, it should be ALL year round, with an extra 2hrs for the summer months so i can get more trips to lano in

if i had a 7-3 job instead of a 9-5 i wouldn't give a sh!t about it.

Hammer time

we have the shortest day of the year coming up in a couple months .

how about we all get together and make it even shorter , wind the clock back an hour ?

instead of sunset at about ten to six we can make it set at ten to five .

i hope that halfwitt Dorazio doesn`t see this .
talk`n about someone who doesn`t know the meaning of f*** ORF

i see your problem mineral1 , when i was working there i put more effort into getting out early than into the job , planning exit stratigies like parking the car in spots where know one can see it leave .

those roads were stuffed years ago , i am glad i don`t have do to that anymore . that will make me very angry .

and to think some people here want all of us to stay in the left lane ,two lanes aint enough let alone one .

would`nt want to be the poor bastard at the end of the traffic line , you would be still indicating just to leave your driveway and it would be time to turn around and go home .

and when you did finally join the line it would be like one of those pursuit races in cycling , you`d have to go flat out just to get to the front

I feel sorry for you blokes with 9-5 im self employed and subcontract to a mate who has a little welding company (when i say little i mean just me) now i know welding in summer is not so good but i can start when i want and knock off when i want as long as the jobs get done he's happy and so am i going home at 12 so i take the gear to work which is in welshpool and leave straight from there to the beach a lifestyle i've always wanted

So daylight saving either way i dont care

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Originally posted by mike

Daylight savings in winter??????? Are you for real?????

Looks like there are prenty of people in Perth that fail to understand to BASIC concept of the idea.

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and that is what exactly?

We have our clocks turned back 1 hour enabling us to have an extra hour of daylight.

Ok this is the basic premise for it.

So your hours are 9-5 (mine are officially 8-5 but I won't quibble) sunset for WST (western standard time) is 8pm roughly in summer.

Ohh you can't get from work to the beach in time, try harder, my office is in Welshpool I live south of Mandurah just shy of 100km away, I'm on the road each day I have no idea of where I'll end up yet I can manage to get down the beach most nights for at least a 1 hour session.

Now lets look at breezes, the breeze normally comes in at around 1400hrs WST thats now 1500hrs WDST provided it doesn't come in late.

If you have any family commitments like I do those times do not change so Daylight saving is actually a detriment there if the breeze comes in later.

If you want to go out to dinner or movies etc you end up in there an hour earlier so you are not actually saving anything there.

I also surf, I love the Dawn patrol, getting up at 4.30am heading of in the dark, to check out breaks in the half light and hitting the water before the crowds get there, dawn is an hour later so there ends up being no advantage in watching the sun rise over the dunes.

When we drive home with daylight saving, it's an hour earlier and a damn sight hotter.

The one benefit I see in the whole thing is for Business, the company which I work for has one of it's production centers in Melbourne, pre daylight savings it used to be a right royal pain in the freckle as you had to have orders in before 12 to get things out for the afternoon flights as against 1300hrs normally.

Winter to me is a good time to have daylight saving as the sun sets normally at 6pm which would mean no more getting down the beach just on dark.


Soooo

Please explain why we must have daylight in summer, what did you do the year before and the year before etc

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Originally posted by grumplestiltskin

I hear what you are saying Elmster BUT, in my case I live at least 40 minutes from the beach and its not always convenient for me to take my gear in the car to work.

That means that if I knock off at 5, get home in peak hour traffic, its close to 6, followed by pack up gear and off to beach means its around 7. On non daylight saving time that means that the wind is usually starting to drop off. At least with DST it is only really 6pm so I still have the chance of at least an hours decent sail.

Not that I get to do it as often as you coz I then have an hours drive home and pack up which with DST means its still at least light when I am doing that and I might even get a dive in the pool.

Depends where you live I guess, but it definately suits me

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I Ken Dig It

Makes me wonder how we all did things for the 20 odd years without dialing the clock forward

I find it's not always convenient to take work stuff in my company car when it's always chokers with windsurfing gear

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Makes me wonder how we all did things for the 20 odd years without dialing the clock forward

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basically I never went after work thats why I'm still a crap sailor after so long

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I supose thats 1 advantage of living so close to the beach

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Originally posted by grumplestiltskin

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Makes me wonder how we all did things for the 20 odd years without dialing the clock forward

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basically I never went after work thats why I'm still a crap sailor after so long

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I supose thats 1 advantage of living so close to the beach

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Sooooo...Elmo, without the benefit of local knowledge..........
does that mean you are crap...or you are good??[}:)][}:)]

DLS is yes for me!!!!!!

Lived in Melb first 34 years of my life, was used to it, could never understand WA's negative attitude toward it, and still find it hard to believe there are so many negative views about it, even here, with water sports lovers and people that work???

I geuss flexibility is one of the problems, people have set beliefs about the way the world should be, and that they are unwilling to change these beliefs, however a belief is just that, not a universal truth, it is a social and psychological construction, and therefore it can be deconstructed............

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Originally posted by Greenroom

I finish work at 3 and sometimes earlier. I have kids who are 18 months and 4 years old. Last summer I would go straight from work to the beach for a good couple of hours on the water. And I would still get home at a reasonable hour for a sit down family dinner and to help my beautiful wife bath and put the rug rats to bed who by this time of day are rat chewed and could send any normal person up the wall.
But with the introduction to DLS I would find myself going home and then trying to leave with both kids hanging onto a leg each. And my wife saying "Do you have to go today!? I dont want to feed and bath and put to bed these ferel kids on my own every single day!"

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Look after the boss!!!

Shes the one who lets you get your toys

Well either way we have another two summers of it to play with whether we like it or not before it gets voted out on again.


realistically it doesn't worry me to much I just think it's the wrong time of year

West Aussies will say NO to any question...

Would you like Sunday trading
Would you like week night trading
Would you like $100
Would you like a free trip to Bali
Would you like not to be kicked in the pants

If the question was phrased as would you like the time to remain as it is I wonder what the answer would be