I mean really , a tin of glue and a hacksaw .....that will be $ 50 per hour thanks .this world has gone to the sh..tter

cheap! im $220 1st hour.

they pay me 20 bucks for my tools and parts,
200 for my know how.

mind you, im no ordinary plumber......

$$$ 220 p h

you are gouging , if that is true . you are the reason the worlds economy is rooted.

know how , ..... get fair dinkum . water runs uphill , and sh!t doesn't stink

Well the Plumber who did our office building did... seemingly a mate of the Builder who under bid the next guy by a big margin to win the job...

F#cker was useless... I had to get someone else in to completely strip and re-do a full commercial kitchen as it was completely non-compliant and defective... $18,000. Also had to put in a re-heater for the first floor hot water - another $6,000...

Then last week (15 months on from final PC) the Water Corp contacts us to say that one of our Fire Services supplies has been converted to a 'drinking/use' supply and we didn't pay the Head Works Contribution fee - after a failed appeal etc another $39,000 paid out.

I wouldn't get this bloke to change a hose fitting let alone a tap washer.

sorry, forgot to mention my health. nasty stuff in them sewers.

$220 your taking the piss or lying, no way in the world any plumber is worth that much in our current market

If you work full time you earn somewhere over $250k a year(taking into account reduced rate of $150ph after the first hour, if you are to be so generous) ??? Please elaborate how you think you are worth that just because you can read a regulation or a aus standard/cut and weld pipe, are you in housing or commercial

Your not a doctor mate you play with pipes not lives, if you cut something wrong, just get another bit from the shop, if folks pay you that they are damn stooopid

You are one of the reasons that this country has become one of the most expensive in the world

$50ph is cheap for a plumber sands, well in perth anyway, we cant get plumbers under $70 that are any good

saltiest1 said...

SandS said...

$$$ 220 p h

you are gouging , if that is true . you are the reason the words economy is rooted.

know how , ..... get fair dinkum . water runs uphill , and sh!t doesn't stink

yep. but the client is paying for the use of labour, water jetter and sewer camera gear, along with public liability insurance, gst, tax, wear and tear, fuel, vehicle costs, compliance fees, my workers comp, and time spent chasing people for $, stationary, repayments on equipment etc.......
we are a commercial sewer water jet and inspection company and the cheapest one in town.
sands, you dont work for yourself do you?
btw, id like to see your plumbing if you think water and **** does that!

Fkn aye to that... Salitiest is right. When you whittle all the sh!t back, and look at true hourly rate, $220 starts to look OK...

BTW - I am not a tradie...

the gibbo said...

$220 your taking the piss or lying, no way in the world any plumber is worth that much in our current market

If you work full time you earn somewhere over $250k a year(taking into account reduced rate of $150ph after the first hour, if you are to be so generous) ??? Please elaborate how you think you are worth that just because you can read a regulation or a aus standard/cut and weld pipe, are you in housing or commercial

Your not a doctor mate you play with pipes not lives, if you cut something wrong, just get another bit from the shop, if folks pay you that they are damn stooopid

You are one of the reasons that this country has become one of the most expensive in the world

$50ph is cheap for a plumber sands, well in perth anyway, we cant get plumbers under $70 that are any good

I was being generous saying $ 50 .00 ... I know , its the same here $70 PH Its Just fuoooking mad . And they are not good ... they still need constant supervision , its cronic.
We are all pulling our pudds , tradesmen are not worth any more than $40 ph even with a trailer full of tools. And good Knowledge and skill.

for the record, when we charge the standard rate (110 / hr) look at it this way:

billing hours in 8 hr day is about 6 hrs if doing multiple call outs. $660
less gst $600
less tax (say 25%) $450
less fuel & vehicle / day $18.50 + 31.78 = $50.28 = $399.72
less workers comp $32.88 / day = $366.84
less insurance $354.16
less super $322.28
less holidays 4 week / annum $304.63
less rdo 1 per month $12.04 / day
and theres a few more but i think you get the drift.
these are figures rounded off and not my own, but stuffed if im opening up my books completly to you guys the costings are pretty accurate though.
i think until you run your own business you cant comment too much on what someone can charge unless you know for a fact its too high above market value.

GPA said...

Well the Plumber who did our office building did... seemingly a mate of the Builder who under bid the next guy by a big margin to win the job...

F#cker was useless... I had to get someone else in to completely strip and re-do a full commercial kitchen as it was completely non-compliant and defective... $18,000. Also had to put in a re-heater for the first floor hot water - another $6,000...

Then last week (15 months on from final PC) the Water Corp contacts us to say that one of our Fire Services supplies has been converted to a 'drinking/use' supply and we didn't pay the Head Works Contribution fee - after a failed appeal etc another $39,000 paid out.

I wouldn't get this bloke to change a hose fitting let alone a tap washer.

ouch! id like to know who that was. did you put him in to the licensing board? shoulda. i couldnt sleep if i did a job like that.

this thread is boosting my post a bit. sorry for hogging it

Whatever you do for work - go and get 10 people to poo all over it, hey even better move it out into the blazing sun, and you you still have to do the job covered in somebody elses sh!t.
and then tell me you want less than $50 per hour.

Me

$50 p.h. not expensive. (for a good one)

Most DIYers end up effing up something, those blokes have to get it right, else they get sued for water damage. They have to carry tools for all sort of situations. They have to do some heavy lifting with hot water tanks and 1-piece gravy bowls. Try to install a 1-piece, they weigh a ton while you have to align the **-hole.

Plus there is no supply anymore, as in supply-and-demand. Young blokes want good money but not get dirty. So we pay what the few left willing to play in someone else's ** ask.

Now if you excuse me, I have to go drop a lawyer or 2 in my 1-piecer...

Macroscien said...

The real problem is that. Assusie tradies ask you: Do you want 10K cash job or 11K inc GST.
Then you always say ok 10 k,cash is fine
but in reality what AU tradies have is 10k + 4 K = 14K for the job worth 6-7k when all taxes are paid as they should be !!
You think you save on GST but in fact Tradies save on undeclared income that should be taxed 40% !!!
OK I will leave you now, most don't even understand why that system is rotten to the bones (once hard working nurse or teacher must report and pay tax on any penny and other plumber and other trades steal in day light and nobody bother.

There is no real solution to that, unless all cash transaction are forbidden and all income taxed.

you should never pay a tradie cash. ever.
btw, if you are paying 40% tax your accountant is a retard