Check it out Naish junkies, looks like 08 has some big changes in it.

click on the link to check it out.

http://www.kiteforum.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=443730#443730

Is it their 08 range or just sh!tty kites?!

accept being from naish, it might actually fly well

Dany Looks like your going to join the SLE Kite boys in 08 Welcome

Its a blow up Peter Lynn C quad, more kooky than a doona .There you go bully boys a whole years worth of bullying there for sure (unless there is some money in it for you ,I'm sure withb some spin you can de kook it )

quote:

---

Originally posted by BoDiddly

So what do you think the advantage to a profile shape like that is? - Aside from looking totally different and aggressive, anyone with an aerodynamic background shed some possible light on this?!

---

The initial comments back is it allows for more depower with less stability issues. Some of the older flat kites that offered the biggest depower were more prone to hindenburging (SS TD for example) and apparently this design eliminates this problem.

Of course, this is all hearsay, so it could do something completely different like give more low end or make it turn faster than Paris Hilton's defense team.

quote:

---

Originally posted by Mr float

If you are right it sounds like trying to have the flight characteristics of a mattress

quote:

---

Originally posted by Saffer

quote:

---

Originally posted by BoDiddly

So what do you think the advantage to a profile shape like that is? - Aside from looking totally different and aggressive, anyone with an aerodynamic background shed some possible light on this?!

---

The initial comments back is it allows for more depower with less stability issues. Some of the older flat kites that offered the biggest depower were more prone to hindenburging (SS TD for example) and apparently this design eliminates this problem.

Of course, this is all hearsay, so it could do something completely different like give more low end or make it turn faster than Paris Hilton's defense team.

---

---

Not sure I quite agree. Old mattresses didn't have nearly the same range as C kites but progressively got better with kites like the psycho. Then with bow kites, FS brought out the pulse which seems to have similar range, but still has its own issues like backstalling etc. No kite right now is perfect, everything is just a step in the right direction.

That said, if I was a snowkiter, I'd have mattresses anyday and light wind will always be owned by mattresses.

Here is a post from someone who had them out:

"hey guys..

I think the kite makes sense. After chatting with people there, the reason for the shape is to put the major part of the weight to the center of where the kite moves (they had a better explanation, but I can't remember everything), which removes the overflying, and shooting back and forth in the window, the kite was screaming upwind....

There was a meeting there...and the beach was filled up with the new line and people...

I think the kite is really good looking in the air.
The kite has more feeling through the depower, so there is less of the on off feeling bows have. Also the kite doesn't seem to have anything that bends...a lot of straight lines, that removed fluttering the canopy looked really solid.
...sort of like those stealth fighters. The new shape looks a lot more like a wing than any kite I have seen before.
Also I had two sizes (I think 7 and 9) out in varying winds today, and yay it's a jumper!!!!
I think it comes with 2:1 or 1:1 on a redesigned bar. There was a lot of stuff!!!!! going on there for sure. The 1:1 was really smooth and very light on the bar, which had a movable stopper.

Some of the guys jumping today were going high!!! I wish I took more pics, but I had to run

A. "

Sorry but the last time I looked at my mattress it didn't have bridles .I'm talking PLK mattress/doona whatever

quote:

---

Originally posted by Saffer

quote:

---

Originally posted by Mr float

If you are right it sounds like trying to have the flight characteristics of a mattress

quote:

---

Originally posted by Saffer

quote:

---

Originally posted by BoDiddly

So what do you think the advantage to a profile shape like that is? - Aside from looking totally different and aggressive, anyone with an aerodynamic background shed some possible light on this?!

---

The initial comments back is it allows for more depower with less stability issues. Some of the older flat kites that offered the biggest depower were more prone to hindenburging (SS TD for example) and apparently this design eliminates this problem.

Of course, this is all hearsay, so it could do something completely different like give more low end or make it turn faster than Paris Hilton's defense team.

---

---

Not sure I quite agree. Old mattresses didn't have nearly the same range as C kites but progressively got better with kites like the psycho. Then with bow kites, FS brought out the pulse which seems to have similar range, but still has its own issues like backstalling etc. No kite right now is perfect, everything is just a step in the right direction.

That said, if I was a snowkiter, I'd have mattresses anyday and light wind will always be owned by mattresses.

---

quote:

---

Originally posted by BoDiddly

So what do you think the advantage to a profile shape like that is? - Aside from looking totally different and aggressive, anyone with an aerodynamic background shed some possible light on this?!

---

The batwings and variations of batwings are part of an evil plan to kill the relaunch issue,
once and for all.
Deepwater relaunchs after a crash (even in light air) will simply become auto-redials in micro-seconds.
Back to full-power in a splash,
the gap between the water and the leadingedge cranks will allow wind to draw thru and flip the lips,
and set it up for a hot-launch.
Just want you want in an intense situation.
The kite is UP and out of harms way.
Not gay.

bwwwwwaahhhh youre all crazy!!!!

quote:

---

Originally posted by waveslave

quote:

---

Originally posted by Mr float
Hang on a sec .What relaunch issue with your beloved blow ups are you talking about ?.

---

Hmmm..
Relaunch...
You know,
when your kite floats on the water like a bloated corpse.
Floating.
Not sinking.
On-standby.
Not sinking.
lol.
(ps. Why do foil-daddys always have to pimp doonas in the inflato threads)?
Why ?

---

I dedicate this short animation to you waveslave.

You didn't answer my question .What relaunch issue do you refer to ?or are you going to wriggle and spin around this one too.I think that most people would agree that I asked a question .Touchy touchy Slave .How is asking a legitamate question a pimp?(Another question for you)

quote:

---

Originally posted by waveslave

quote:

---

Originally posted by Mr float
Hang on a sec .What relaunch issue with your beloved blow ups are you talking about ?.

---

Hmmm..
Relaunch...
You know,
when your kite floats on the water like a bloated corpse.
Floating.
Not sinking.
On-standby.
Not sinking.
lol.
(ps. Why do foil-daddys always have to pimp doonas in the inflato threads)?
Why ?

---

Who needs more usable de-power on a kite?? I like my kite in the sky.

Last 100 times I went out I wanted more power.

When are you ninnies gonna stop bickering about your equipment??

Who cares if you ride a PL, bow, c, hybrid or fly-surfer?

I only care if you come in smiling.

quote:

---

Originally posted by Mr float

You didn't answer my question .What relaunch issue do you refer to ?or are you going to wriggle and spin around this one too.I think that most people would agree that I asked a question .Touchy touchy Slave .How is asking a legitamate question a pimp?(Another question for you)

quote:

---

Originally posted by waveslave

quote:

---

Originally posted by Mr float
Hang on a sec .What relaunch issue with your beloved blow ups are you talking about ?.

---

Hmmm..
Relaunch...
You know,
when your kite floats on the water like a bloated corpse.
Floating.
Not sinking.
On-standby.
Not sinking.
lol.
(ps. Why do foil-daddys always have to pimp doonas in the inflato threads)?
Why ?

---

---

Hes talking about the fact that re launch is gettibg better and better for inflatos.

Bows relaunch much faster than C kites. Thats a fact !

Waveslave is now saying,and I agree, that with the correct shape leading edge,a kite will catch air and relaunch imediately!

Also,why do foil and Arc users keep butting in to threads about inflatos ??? Just keep swimming in boys !

quote:

---

Originally posted by danza

Check out the new torch looks awesome.

http://www.kiteforum.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2339409&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=40

---

The flames do kinda remind me of the Caution though.