2 people dead after kite accident in Tarifa

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FlyByKite
FlyByKite
WA
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WA, 103 posts
9 May 2016 9:05pm
Tragic news - 2 people drown trying to carry kites across river mouth.

My condolences to family and friends - RIP

kiteforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2392522

Take care people, it can happen when least expected.
Magdalena
Magdalena
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sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
9 May 2016 10:11pm
Such a sad story... .

This could have happened with or without kite though, not really a typical "kiteboarding death" of sorts... You see a similar thing in fast moving currents the world over. This is super sad but I'm sure it will only push the area to be policed more than it already is (it's already illegal to kite there, at least it was when I was there).

I think this story really brings to light how important it is to learn to swim competently and always be wiling to sacrifice ones gear before yourself. So sad to think if they had just let their kites go they might have been ok .
Melbossa
Melbossa
1 posts
1 posts
10 May 2016 6:17am
You should really know the facts before dishing out advice after such a tragic event & as such I find your comments extremely insensitive & distasteful. Your knowledge of the situation is obviously based on assumption. The facts will come to light in the coming days & you will see that your assumptions are wrong. As a result of this tragedy the kiteboarding community in Tarifa is totally devastated & already campaigning for year-round rescue services on Los Lances.
Tonight, as last night, I will be mourning the loss of the beautiful shining light of Tereza Jelínková.
Triggerhappy
Triggerhappy
WA
174 posts
WA, 174 posts
10 May 2016 9:38am
sir ROWDY said..
Such a sad story... .

This could have happened with or without kite though, not really a typical "kiteboarding death" of sorts... You see a similar thing in fast moving currents the world over. This is super sad but I'm sure it will only push the area to be policed more than it already is (it's already illegal to kite there, at least it was when I was there).

I think this story really brings to light how important it is to learn to swim competently and always be wiling to sacrifice ones gear before yourself. So sad to think if they had just let their kites go they might have been ok .


Reading through the eyewitness accounts by all means it was accidental death by mis adventure. Traversing a fast moving stream without carrying stuff is difficult but with all your kite gear is foolhardy. I agree not a kitesurfing accident. But something to learn by. A sad day for Tarifa in any case and of course for family and friends.
Underoath
Underoath
QLD
2434 posts
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10 May 2016 12:23pm
RIP.


One of the first things that surprised me when moving from WA to Sunny Coast was the speed and power of the tides found in the Rivers and at Happy Valley.

You don't ever notice tidal movement in Perth on the Swan River


Very dangerous. It would be so easy to get caught out.

raffaeu
raffaeu
195 posts
195 posts
10 May 2016 3:13pm
We don't really know anything about the facts yet but it sounds really incredible to me what happened by reading the local newspapers. The story says that they twisted their kites and then suddenly drawn in the water because not able to activate the security system because all lines were tangle into their bodies. What a tragedy and what a bad dead, honestly speaking.A third kiter went there to rescue them and he got also their lines tangled and he was also dying but luckily he got rescued in time.

The problem is not what they have done, in a place like Tarifa where tons of kiters show up every year there should be in place a good and well organized rescue system with jetscooters, boats and lifeguard while in Tarifa there is nothing like that, it is pure anarchy like Marocco or Cape Verde, and this is the real problem.
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
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10 May 2016 4:51pm
Melbossa said..
You should really know the facts before dishing out advice after such a tragic event & as such I find your comments extremely insensitive & distasteful. Your knowledge of the situation is obviously based on assumption. The facts will come to light in the coming days & you will see that your assumptions are wrong. As a result of this tragedy the kiteboarding community in Tarifa is totally devastated & already campaigning for year-round rescue services on Los Lances.
Tonight, as last night, I will be mourning the loss of the beautiful shining light of Tereza Jelínková.




I was only going off what I'd read online and heard from some people who were close to the situation, very sorry if what I've heard was incorrect. I by no means meant any disrespect by it. I only want to help gain awareness to situations like this in the hope that other kiters lives may be spared in the future.

Many kiters lives around the world are lost un-nessisarily every year, the more we can talk and learn about these issues the more lives can be saved. We've lost a few of our own in Australia and those situations have proved very important in helping us understand how to minimise the risk better into the future.

Very sorry for your loss, my thoughts are with family and friends .
Dave Whettingsteel
Dave Whettingsteel
WA
1397 posts
WA, 1397 posts
10 May 2016 5:04pm
I don't think what you said was disrespectful sir rowdie.
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
10 May 2016 5:10pm
Dave Whettingsteel said..
I don't think what you said was disrespectful sir rowdie.


I feel bad anyway .
Gfly
Gfly
165 posts
165 posts
10 May 2016 5:38pm
Its better to educate people than point fingers here.
Dave Whettingsteel
Dave Whettingsteel
WA
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10 May 2016 6:26pm
sir ROWDY said...
Dave Whettingsteel said..
I don't think what you said was disrespectful sir rowdie.


I feel bad anyway .


It's a horrible event, whatever comments and thoughts people have.
I don't think you should beat yourself up at all.
I imagine the person who responded was understandably distressed.
djt91184
djt91184
QLD
1211 posts
QLD, 1211 posts
10 May 2016 9:25pm
Your points about being a competent swimmer and willingness to ditch your equipment if in a risky situation were ok and best to be put out there for consideration

RIP
waveslave
waveslave
WA
4263 posts
WA, 4263 posts
10 May 2016 7:36pm
I can't understand how you can get tangled up with lines when they are wound up on the bar ....

unless the ends were still connected to the kite.

Freaky accident. Much sorrow.
Hausey
Hausey
NSW
325 posts
NSW, 325 posts
10 May 2016 9:54pm
An extremely sad and tragic incident.

Devastating for those close and involved. I still think about the guy we couldn't save windsurfing in Tarifa in '94 - unnecessary deaths are unforgettable!

Way too many kiting accidents.

It should be mandatory for all harness manufacturers of all kite harnesses - to have an integrated and easily accessible, functional line knife that actually is easy to use and works.

Especially in light winds or between waves, when there are moments of opportunity to cut lines - it should be easily possible to cut your way free - but it's not with some harnesses!
hilly
hilly
WA
8136 posts
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10 May 2016 8:07pm
waveslave said..
I can't understand how you can get tangled up with lines when they are wound up on the bar ....

unless the ends were still connected to the kite.

Freaky accident. Much sorrow.

From kiteforum:
Tragic story, I got this message from our kite group, from a guy who was there: they were kiting in el charco, the lagoon of rio Jara. The wind had dropped completely, they landed their kites and were going back to the parking, passing the exit of rio Jara, carrying their kites, bar and lines in their hands. Due to the very high tide in the lagoon and rio Jara, caused by lots of rain, the current at the exit of rio Jara washing out to sea was super strong. Normally it's plenty strong, with the rain it was super strong. When they attempted to cross the exit they were swept into the sea, where there were 2m shore break. The kites and lines which they held in their hands got tangled around them. People shouted at them to let go of the kites and cut the lines, but they said no, they didn't want to let go of their kites not to lose them. They got tumbled in the shore break with their kites and lines tangled around them, and drowned.
Plummet
Plummet
4862 posts
4862 posts
11 May 2016 2:56am
There are always 2 schools of thought on death threads. Those who want respect the dead and do not want to talk about the accident. They typically get offended when the discussion turns to why, how, when. "It is not respectful to discuss the reasons why now, wait until a respectful time has passed to discuss these matters"

Then there is the group that want to understand the accident so they can learn and potentially save them self from something similar on the future.

The thing is. The time to discuss the accident is now. That is when it is fresh in everyone's minds.


Sammyjay
Sammyjay
VIC
180 posts
VIC, 180 posts
11 May 2016 8:57am
My condolences, thoughts are with family, friends and the extended kite community who are all brothers and sisters.
waveslave
waveslave
WA
4263 posts
WA, 4263 posts
11 May 2016 8:24am
hilly said..

waveslave said..
I can't understand how you can get tangled up with lines when they are wound up on the bar ....

unless the ends were still connected to the kite.

Freaky accident. Much sorrow.


From kiteforum:
Tragic story, I got this message from our kite group, from a guy who was there: they were kiting in el charco, the lagoon of rio Jara. The wind had dropped completely, they landed their kites and were going back to the parking, passing the exit of rio Jara, carrying their kites, bar and lines in their hands. Due to the very high tide in the lagoon and rio Jara, caused by lots of rain, the current at the exit of rio Jara washing out to sea was super strong. Normally it's plenty strong, with the rain it was super strong. When they attempted to cross the exit they were swept into the sea, where there were 2m shore break. The kites and lines which they held in their hands got tangled around them. People shouted at them to let go of the kites and cut the lines, but they said no, they didn't want to let go of their kites not to lose them. They got tumbled in the shore break with their kites and lines tangled around them, and drowned.


Yeah, I read that piece on the kiteforum too. ^^^

But it doesn't answer my question, it only confuses me more.

It says the kite and lines were held in hands.

If the kite was separate from the bar & lines, how can you get tangled in an inflated kite?

How can you get tangled with a wound-up bar & lines?

The lines ends must have been still attached to the wing-tips as they crossed the stream.

Need more info to understand this accident.

And to the crew who are offended by my enquires; this is a discussion forum, not some freakin grieving platform.
tomasb
tomasb
64 posts
64 posts
11 May 2016 4:10pm
Plummet said...
There are always 2 schools of thought on death threads. Those who want respect the dead and do not want to talk about the accident. They typically get offended when the discussion turns to why, how, when. "It is not respectful to discuss the reasons why now, wait until a respectful time has passed to discuss these matters"

Then there is the group that want to understand the accident so they can learn and potentially save them self from something similar on the future.

The thing is. The time to discuss the accident is now. That is when it is fresh in everyone's minds.



Plummet is dead.

Discuss...
billob
billob
QLD
93 posts
QLD, 93 posts
11 May 2016 6:38pm
I once got stuck in a channel with all my gear- swam a km with my gear - it took literally seconds of swimming with 1/2 ravelled lines before my legs were trapped-if there was swell and sweep I'd hate to think of how differently events would've transpired. No matter your take on this post everyone needs to chill a bit - two lives were just lost
Aniak
Aniak
1 posts
1 posts
11 May 2016 7:13pm
One of the kiters who died was my sister husband.it is now big pain for all of us,parents,brother.I can just write I wish all kiters to be very careful.And..I there is nothing now more to write
JoeMc
JoeMc
WA
97 posts
WA, 97 posts
12 May 2016 2:55am
Aniak
All of us at this forum are very sorry for you loss. Some will express it in different ways but all are sorry.
My condolences to you and your family.
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