20m or 25m lines with 7m North Rebal 09

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Rocket
Rocket
WA
33 posts
WA, 33 posts
7 May 2009 3:47am
Anyone got any advice on what length works best for kite surfing the 7m North Rebel 09 in waves? Not worried about flat water.
richswing
richswing
WA
724 posts
WA, 724 posts
7 May 2009 8:22am
I use 20m lines on my Nano 9m & 12m and love it. Similar profile kite, so called "Delta" shape.

Went back to 24m for a light wind session and the kite felt so unresponsive ... but it did help on water starts and trying to get on the wave a bit better.

But still prefer 20m lines.

If a bit too twitchy, try it on the narrow bar setting to slow it down.

Cheers
Rich
Rocket
Rocket
WA
33 posts
WA, 33 posts
8 May 2009 7:50am
Cheers Rich

I,ve heard using 20m's gives you an extra 3-4 knts of high end wind range. So sounds like having having a set of each is the go.

Rod
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
8 May 2009 10:52am
You gotta have the 37.5's for those light wind days though easily adds another 1.6knots to your kites low end.
loco4olas
loco4olas
NSW
1525 posts
NSW, 1525 posts
8 May 2009 4:17pm
Rocket said...

Anyone got any advice on what length works best for kite surfing the 7m North Rebel 09 in waves? Not worried about flat water.


I've used down to 16m lines on my 6m Naish Boxer SLE-so long as there is enough wind it's great for waveriding-you can really whip a small kite around with short lines. Things do happen much quicker and there is less 'pull'-but it makes it super responsive for wave riding.

I saw Andy Mac from Gracetown way in WA in Indo a few years back just tearing it up on a surfboard on about a 7m kite and super short lines-impressed me enough to do the same the next year at the same spot.

Give it a go-if you don't like it just put extensions on you lines-it was common for Naish in the earlier days to give you 20M lines with 7M extensions-good idea IMO.
Rocket
Rocket
WA
33 posts
WA, 33 posts
14 May 2009 7:45am
Thanks for the info loco4olas.

And sir Rowdy. I'll be sure to get some 75's so I can get the sea breeze 2 hours before it gets to the coast.
tightlines
tightlines
WA
3510 posts
WA, 3510 posts
14 May 2009 8:46am
I haven't tried the 7mtr Rebel but with the 7.5 Bandit I was using last year I had the original 24mtr lines cut down to 20 mtrs and 4mtr extensions and think this is the way to go.
I found I mainly used the 20's but when it was light wind I could definetly get a bit more bottem end with the longer lines. I ended up using a 45cm bar with the 20's on and a 55cm bar with the 24's.
I am now using 6 and 9mtr Eclipse Kima's that come with 20 +4 mtr lines standard (as do a lot of kites these days) and even though the 6 Kima turns much faster I still find I prefer using it with the 20's.
I might even do as Loco4olas suggested and try shorter again, because I believe the faster the better for waveriding, but I think it depends on how you like to fly your kite on waves, ie park and ride (drift) v's follow the kite by turning the kite before every turn on your board.
kiterdan
kiterdan
WA
680 posts
WA, 680 posts
14 May 2009 4:30pm
Got a theory on this one…
I’ve ridden 15m lines before for freestyle and waves on a 05 slingshot back in the day. It was super quick and responsive – not great for wakestyle as it was too twitchy but kiteloops were insane.
However, I reckon lines in the 12-15m range would be perfect for unhooked waveriding ONLY IF you have the right size kite up. The kite will move faster to the edge of the window which means as soon there is any resistance perpendicular to the kite lines, it should shoot to the edge of the window. This means that you can actually complete a snap without getting pulled down the line 20m before setting up for your next turn (an obvious result when the kite flies further back in the window for longer). It also means that you have less power in the kite on the wave which means you rely on the wave more. In other words, although it is an advantage for those who want to throw the kite around, it’s probably more of an advantage for those that park and ride.
Buy some lines, grab mum’s sissors and try for yourself…
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
15 May 2009 3:09pm
Good idea in theory but in practice not so much.
All that happens is your kite falls out of the sky, longer lines give you some lee way and time, when you go towards your kite it slacks but then it also has time to drift and catch the wind again, on short lines it doesnt.
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