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INTHELOOP
INTHELOOP
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INTHELOOP INTHELOOP
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13 Jun 2015 2:35pm
Florian Gruber is a light wind expert but this video of him foiling in 4knots at the ISAF Sailing World Cup in Weymouth is just rediculous.
Loftywinds
Loftywinds
QLD
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Loftywinds Loftywinds
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13 Jun 2015 2:43pm
On a chrono 18?
Ozone Kites Aus
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13 Jun 2015 3:32pm
I think thats an R1 18M, very light conditions for sure. When he stepped off the foilboard at the end I was impressed by the stability of the kite. Most older, less refined foil kites would have luffed at that moment.
tightlines
tightlines
WA
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tightlines tightlines
WA, 3510 posts
13 Jun 2015 5:27pm
I'm sure the wind is light but 4knots........ check out the red flag in the background at around 40 second mark, def looks like more than 4 knots to me.
4 knots and it would be almost hanging limp.
Lambie
Lambie
QLD
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Lambie Lambie
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13 Jun 2015 7:27pm
Insane !! Im damned if I can get my head around how a foil can work in such low wind conditions?? Common sense and experience says you need a bigger and flatter board to get planning when its a drifter - the surface area of the foils on a foil board are tiny !! How does this work ?? Im stumped - but bloody impressed!!
0llie
0llie
NSW
176 posts
0llie 0llie
NSW, 176 posts
13 Jun 2015 8:47pm
Thanks for the post! From my hometown and I can almost see my mums new house up on Portland if it wasn't for the wet and gloomy fog all around.
Craig66
Craig66
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Craig66 Craig66
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13 Jun 2015 8:49pm
Lambie said..
Insane !! Im damned if I can get my head around how a foil can work in such low wind conditions?? Common sense and experience says you need a bigger and flatter board to get planning when its a drifter - the surface area of the foils on a foil board are tiny !! How does this work ?? Im stumped - but bloody impressed!!


Next to no drag on the foil, slices through the water, a board has to push / displace lots of water as it moves forward, even more when you cut hard.
The lack of spray and wake shows this.
terminal
terminal
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terminal terminal
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13 Jun 2015 8:34pm
Lambie said..
Insane !! Im damned if I can get my head around how a foil can work in such low wind conditions?? Common sense and experience says you need a bigger and flatter board to get planning when its a drifter - the surface area of the foils on a foil board are tiny !! How does this work ?? Im stumped - but bloody impressed!!


You can pump the foil with your legs to help it get planing. You can see Florian pumping the foil slightly near the end of the OP video.

kiteboy dave
kiteboy dave
QLD
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kiteboy dave kiteboy dave
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13 Jun 2015 10:50pm
pumping a foil - proof it generates power


I think the first vid is a bit deceptive, the wind isn't down to water. Still impressive.


Plummet
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Plummet Plummet
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14 Jun 2015 3:14am
tightlines said...
I'm sure the wind is light but 4knots........ check out the red flag in the background at around 40 second mark, def looks like more than 4 knots to me.
4 knots and it would be almost hanging limp.



Yep I agree. That's not 4 knots. All flags would be limp.

Plummet
Plummet
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Plummet Plummet
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14 Jun 2015 3:25am
On a side note . Apart from bragging rights what's the point?. Kiting it wind this light is just plain boring.

For the record I can and do kite in wind this light in my kite buggy.

I call it desperation kiting. You need to get a fix so you go out in these marginal conditions.

I guess if you have not other sports then 4 knot kiting would be appealing.
INTHELOOP
INTHELOOP
QLD
1855 posts
INTHELOOP INTHELOOP
QLD, 1855 posts
14 Jun 2015 5:44am
If you be standing on beach you would not be able to fly your kite.
Pretty sure if a handfull of pros say it was 4 to max 5 knots it was that light.
Florian Gruber is probably the best guy in the world in sub 10knots kiting.
He lives on a lake in bavaria where he kites a lot in such light conditions.
The new foil kites and an effcient hydrofoil can make such possible given you keep moving and apparent going.

INTHELOOP
INTHELOOP
QLD
1855 posts
INTHELOOP INTHELOOP
QLD, 1855 posts
14 Jun 2015 9:02am
TerryMcTool said..
I think thats an R1 18M, very light conditions for sure. When he stepped off the foilboard at the end I was impressed by the stability of the kite. Most older, less refined foil kites would have luffed at that moment.


17m R1 it is
wishy
wishy
WA
1501 posts
wishy wishy
WA, 1501 posts
14 Jun 2015 10:21am
When I lived on the east coast I used to go be able to go upwind in 15knots.
I don't even get out of bed for less than 30 knots anymore.
Livit
Livit
WA
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Livit Livit
WA, 542 posts
14 Jun 2015 12:14pm
Plummet said..
On a side note . Apart from bragging rights what's the point?. Kiting it wind this light is just plain boring.

For the record I can and do kite in wind this light in my kite buggy.

I call it desperation kiting. You need to get a fix so you go out in these marginal conditions.

I guess if you have not other sports then 4 knot kiting would be appealing.


I bet you have never tried a hydro foil. Before I got one I thought that anything sub 15kn was boring but now I am just waiting for those sessions when there is barely no one out there. It is different, a lot more technical and just so much fun.

Now reading you agro comments on pretty much everything and then looking at what you are actually doing I don't think anyone really care about your opinion.

Seriously, who ride dog style on a mutant these days????
Gorgo
Gorgo
VIC
5126 posts
Gorgo Gorgo
VIC, 5126 posts
14 Jun 2015 3:05pm
Plummet said..
On a side note . Apart from bragging rights what's the point?. Kiting it wind this light is just plain boring.

For the record I can and do kite in wind this light in my kite buggy.

I call it desperation kiting. You need to get a fix so you go out in these marginal conditions.

I guess if you have not other sports then 4 knot kiting would be appealing.


I can get out in 8-10 knots on my raceboard. It is such a nice feeling to have the kite perfectly trimmed and the board perfectly trimmed and to be slicing along on glassy water. On my light wind TT it was also nice to have that perfect rooster tail spraying out.

I can only imagine how nice it must be to be perfectly trimmed on a hydrofoil and hearing that hisss as it slices through the water ... but I'm working on it.
Spitfire
Spitfire
WA
398 posts
Spitfire Spitfire
WA, 398 posts
15 Jun 2015 11:47am
You can hear the rigging in the yachts banging against their masts in the wind. That flag is nearly pointing straight. Wind speed must be higher than 4 knots.
PKR
PKR
WA
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PKR PKR
WA, 217 posts
15 Jun 2015 1:18pm
samokta said...
You can hear the rigging in the yachts banging against their masts in the wind. That flag is nearly pointing straight. Wind speed must be higher than 4 knots.


Might not be 4 knots on the dot, but certainly less than a steady 6 knots, as they held back any of the olympic sailing classes from racing due to not enough wind
tightlines
tightlines
WA
3510 posts
tightlines tightlines
WA, 3510 posts
15 Jun 2015 2:48pm
I have no doubt the wind speed would be very low and am amazed at what the foil combo's can get going in (def want one one day) but I assume that would be measured at close to sea level though, wouldn't it?
hookworm
hookworm
VIC
600 posts
hookworm hookworm
VIC, 600 posts
15 Jun 2015 6:11pm
That looks about as much fun as herpes
IanR
IanR
NSW
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IanR IanR
NSW, 1360 posts
15 Jun 2015 11:22pm
TerryMcTool said..
I think thats an R1 18M, very light conditions for sure. When he stepped off the foilboard at the end I was impressed by the stability of the kite. Most older, less refined foil kites would have luffed at that moment.



Hmmm yea
It's all about the kite, nothing to do with the flyer
Im sure he"s never done that little trick before
The kite was not even in shot when he stepped off the board how can we know how it behaved
Kitepower Australia
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16 Jun 2015 11:01am
Ian, you need to fly one and see how impressive they are in light winds. Jordan would be happy to give you a go on his if you see him down the beach.

Peace
Loftywinds
Loftywinds
QLD
2060 posts
Loftywinds Loftywinds
QLD, 2060 posts
16 Jun 2015 12:01pm
IanR said..
Hmmm yea
It's all about the kite, nothing to do with the flyer



LOL. Gee you must have a super duper automatic kite of some sort?
Kamikuza
Kamikuza
QLD
6493 posts
Kamikuza Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
16 Jun 2015 1:43pm
IanR said..

TerryMcTool said..
I think thats an R1 18M, very light conditions for sure. When he stepped off the foilboard at the end I was impressed by the stability of the kite. Most older, less refined foil kites would have luffed at that moment.




Hmmm yea
It's all about the kite, nothing to do with the flyer
Im sure he"s never done that little trick before
The kite was not even in shot when he stepped off the board how can we know how it behaved


Terry is the consummate used car salesman - never miss a chance to push a sale by making claims that sound amazing but are in fact run-of-the-mill...

I can believe 4 knots. Foil boards are witchcraft. Foil kites love the apparent wind. Seem to remember someone on KF saying they'd managed two and half times the wind speed, so that'd be about 12 knots - easily rideable. Just don't fall over ;)
Kamikuza
Kamikuza
QLD
6493 posts
Kamikuza Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
16 Jun 2015 1:44pm
Loftywinds said..

IanR said..
Hmmm yea
It's all about the kite, nothing to do with the flyer




LOL. Gee you must have a super duper automatic kite of some sort?


That whistling noise is the sarcasm sailing over your head...
skywalker3d
skywalker3d
VIC
228 posts
skywalker3d skywalker3d
VIC, 228 posts
16 Jun 2015 7:44pm
Sorry Its more then 4 knots....
Spark
Spark
WA
224 posts
Spark Spark
WA, 224 posts
16 Jun 2015 6:56pm
Kitepower Australia said...
Ian, you need to fly one and see how impressive they are in light winds. Jordan would be happy to give you a go on his if you see him down the beach.

Peace


What's the difference between Terry Mctool and Kitepower Australia?
Peahi
Peahi
VIC
1485 posts
Peahi Peahi
VIC, 1485 posts
16 Jun 2015 9:15pm
kiteboy dave said..
pumping a foil - proof it generates power


I think the first vid is a bit deceptive, the wind isn't down to water. Still impressive.




but the kite is not at water level either, I think foil pimping has become a new sport
Kamikuza
Kamikuza
QLD
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Kamikuza Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
16 Jun 2015 10:53pm
Spark said..

Kitepower Australia said...
Ian, you need to fly one and see how impressive they are in light winds. Jordan would be happy to give you a go on his if you see him down the beach.

Peace



What's the difference between Terry Mctool and Kitepower Australia?


One has 4,000 posts, the other doesn't.
Kitepower Australia
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16 Jun 2015 11:15pm
Spark said..


What's the difference between Terry Mctool and Kitepower Australia?


A password Terry no longer knows and about 800km :)
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
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sir ROWDY sir ROWDY
WA, 5378 posts
16 Jun 2015 10:52pm
Kitepower Australia said..

Spark said..


What's the difference between Terry Mctool and Kitepower Australia?



A password Terry no longer knows and about 800km :)


I would say it's far closer to 900km actually... there you guys go, making outrageous claims again.
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