ACL reconstruction

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riddim1
riddim1
QLD
156 posts
QLD, 156 posts
7 Sep 2009 8:17am
I wondered if any other kiter has had an ACL reconstruction. I'm booked in for one and want to know the approximate recovery time? i.e. time-out from being on the water under a kite. Of course I will follow the doctors recommendations but I have always found kiting a lesser impact on knee joints, in comparison to wakeboarding. Any board sport specific rehab techniques or plans would also be a help?
strapped
strapped
NSW
171 posts
NSW, 171 posts
7 Sep 2009 8:51am
i had an acl operation about 8 yrs ago. i snapped it again a year and a half after the operation while i was kiting. Now I too am booked in for another operation as my knee has little stability and the pain and loss of freedom to move has prompted me to go under the knife again. Good luck to you with your operation.
peter_boarder
peter_boarder
SA
66 posts
SA, 66 posts
7 Sep 2009 6:29pm
hey,

I did my acl in november last year, and it only took me 6 1/2 months to get back into it,

i did allot of gym, mabe 3-4 times a week or an hour mostly on my legs but you got to make sure you do ur upper body too..

i got a good knee brace as well, which i wear all the time,

do allot of gym, running try and get back to work asap, i was a farmer at the time so was always on my feet which helped allot!!

i started kiting again on a surfboard mostly but got back onto the tt b4 too long and now im going hard as ever and learning new tricks

i also snowboard and wakeboard, and out of all these three kiteboarding hurts the least!

hope this helps!!

sucks about ur knee though, esp becuase its jsut b4 the season..

goodluck!

peter_boarder
peter_boarder
SA
66 posts
SA, 66 posts
7 Sep 2009 6:32pm
hey,

I did my acl in november last year, and it only took me 6 1/2 months to get back into it,

i did allot of gym, mabe 3-4 times a week or an hour mostly on my legs but you got to make sure you do ur upper body too..

i got a good knee brace as well, which i wear all the time,

do allot of gym, running try and get back to work asap, i was a farmer at the time so was always on my feet which helped allot!!

i started kiting again on a surfboard mostly but got back onto the tt b4 too long and now im going hard as ever and learning new tricks

i also snowboard and wakeboard, and out of all these three kiteboarding hurts the least!

hope this helps!!

sucks about ur knee though, esp becuase its jsut b4 the season..

goodluck!

getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
WA, 4485 posts
7 Sep 2009 5:08pm
Bizarre timing!

I managed to smack my left knee good n proper, after doing a 30-ish knot 'superman' onto compact wet sand on Saturday and have been doing the rounds of Dr/Xray/Dr/Referal etc today. Have to wait until Mondee to see a ortho to then get a referal for an MRI - to then begin to understand what damage has occured and then discuss potential treatment.. Sigh...

Hoping mine will be rest and physio and not surgery as such. Even facing 3+ weeks before knowing is giving me the shizzs, so best of luck for your op and recovery riddim.
getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
WA, 4485 posts
7 Sep 2009 5:10pm
getfunky said...

Bizarre timing!

I managed to smack my left knee good n proper, after doing a 30-ish knot 'superman' onto compact wet sand on Saturday and have been doing the rounds of Dr/Xray/Dr/Referal etc today. Have to wait until Mondee to see a ortho to then get a referal for an MRI - to then begin to understand what damage has occured and then discuss potential treatment.. Sigh...

Hoping mine (medial ligament) will be rest and physio and not surgery as such. Even facing 3+ weeks before knowing is giving me the shizzs, so best of luck for your op and recovery riddim.


Slack
Slack
WA
685 posts
WA, 685 posts
7 Sep 2009 5:11pm
getfunky said...

Bizarre timing!

I managed to smack my left knee good n proper, after doing a 30-ish knot 'superman' onto compact wet sand on Saturday and have been doing the rounds of Dr/Xray/Dr/Referal etc today. Have to wait until Mondee to see a ortho to then get a referal for an MRI - to then begin to understand what damage has occured and then discuss potential treatment.. Sigh...

Hoping mine will be rest and physio and not surgery as such. Even facing 3+ weeks before knowing is giving me the shizzs, so best of luck for your op and recovery riddim.


Can I borrow your kites this summer?
getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
WA, 4485 posts
7 Sep 2009 5:24pm
Pooshin yo luck

Ha ha - I can still brag about having new kites next summer too!

With luck all will be well in a month.

Without luck I will be out for most/all of summer and no doubt hittin the crack pipe with da homeys hard! [}:)]
tightlines
tightlines
WA
3510 posts
WA, 3510 posts
7 Sep 2009 5:37pm
getfunky said...

Bizarre timing!

I managed to smack my left knee good n proper, after doing a 30-ish knot 'superman' onto compact wet sand on Saturday and have been doing the rounds of Dr/Xray/Dr/Referal etc today. Have to wait until Mondee to see a ortho to then get a referal for an MRI - to then begin to understand what damage has occured and then discuss potential treatment.. Sigh...

Hoping mine will be rest and physio and not surgery as such. Even facing 3+ weeks before knowing is giving me the shizzs, so best of luck for your op and recovery riddim.


Funkster, that doesn't sound good. I was wondering how you were going, I thought I had sent you a txt but just checked and its still sitting in my outbox .
I missed seeing your superman impression , I saw you were on the beach with your kite down so turned around too tack back and next thing I saw your kite was in the air and you were limping.
Best of luck with it, I don't suppose the walk back to Brighton helped things much.
I ended up being talked into heading out again, what could I do, I was told to respect your elders.
It sounds like there was quite a bit of carnage from the Saturday Morning downwinders, I heard of a couple of trashed kites and a snapped board.

Hey Riddim1 I can't help you with how long you will be off the water but best of luck anyway and don't rush it, the last thing you want to do is stuff it up again.



getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
WA, 4485 posts
7 Sep 2009 6:02pm
Fingers toes etc crossed. Glad I (probably) won't need major surgery like poor riddim.

Gettin sorer each day but haven't been able to rest properly yet (too much kn work as usual). Had to go straight to youngest's Scitech party after the incident. Hobble birfdee to you.. hobble birfdee to you Then entertain in-laws for Dad's day.. Sought medicinal relief at the bottom of a pinot bottle.

BTW the slam was kinda my own fault being complacent and parking and riding with little in the way of depower before getting sideswiped and rolled by a big slab. Could have done several things during/after smarter too. Chock it down to 'be smarter next time' and patiently wait for water time (again).

Was havin a rockin time on the 7m even though conditions were rubbish too. Noticed you get a few good smashes (good ones - not painful) on the sesh too Kent. Not bad for an ol timer!

Time for me to catch up on some DVDs (when the AFL is finito). Pass the chockies..
Slack
Slack
WA
685 posts
WA, 685 posts
7 Sep 2009 6:21pm
tightlines said...
I ended up being talked into heading out again, what could I do, I was told to respect your elders.



There's someone older than you that can walk on sand?
tightlines
tightlines
WA
3510 posts
WA, 3510 posts
7 Sep 2009 7:04pm
Slack said...

tightlines said...
I ended up being talked into heading out again, what could I do, I was told to respect your elders.



There's someone older than you that can walk on sand?


There's not many, I'll give you the tip.
riddim1
riddim1
QLD
156 posts
QLD, 156 posts
9 Sep 2009 5:53pm
Thanks for all of your input.......and the minimal thread hijacking for that matter.......par for the course I guess. Peter - Did you find kiting on a directional surfboard better for your knees in comparison to a TT? If so I'll get into that style first.
I came out of hospital today and got straight into my rehab. sux indeed to be off the water for a while although fantastic to be temporarily wasted on ye ol' morphine. From all info I have recieved so far, looks like 6 months as a minimum amount of time from kiting.....even then......no wakestyle for me. To keep my stoke levels up I have booked a pacific island trip for May next year.......light at the end of the tunnel and all that........you understand.

Peace!
surfoil66
surfoil66
NSW
89 posts
NSW, 89 posts
9 Sep 2009 7:40pm
i had mine done in 1983 - left leg
its better than ever . though it did take over a year for fully recover from it as they chucked my leg in a plaster cast, heaps different precedure these days, give it 4 months , do your physio every day morning noon and night and keep doing it once you're better at least once/twice a week till its totally back to normal and/or better than ever before
good luck with it
dirk
getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
WA, 4485 posts
9 Sep 2009 5:47pm
Best o' luck for your recovery riddim (and sorry for hijakin yo thread)
coxy31
coxy31
NSW
127 posts
NSW, 127 posts
9 Sep 2009 9:17pm
Hey mate good luck with the rehab had my ACL,MCL and had a whole lot of meniscus chopped out about 2 1/2 years ago..
I was able to go kiting on a surfboard after 5 months and back going easy on a snowboard and twin tip in 6,but it probally took a good 12 to 18 months until it felt rite....
RICO CROON
RICO CROON
QLD
15 posts
QLD, 15 posts
9 Sep 2009 11:21pm
good luck bro,
had a ACL Recon just a year ago, worse time of my life, did it during training at work, but got back in to it, in less then 6 months :) started on a skim board and then started using a surfboard. was just happy to be back and riding again. the only tip i can give you is REHAB REHAB REHAB. i did a lot of bike riding and hydo rehab, even just walking in waist deep of water helped out alot, whilst there you can take pics of your local rippers, the boys would appreciate that :)
oh and another thing too, when they take the draining tube out of your leg its the worse feeling you'll ever experiance, expecially when you have a trainee chinese nurse doing that job :)
cheers rico
kgorton
kgorton
NSW
7 posts
NSW, 7 posts
10 Sep 2009 8:36am
Hi,

Well I did my ACL, PCL (both reconstructed) and MCL (reattached) while kiting. In Nov it will have been 3 years. It took me a year of intense physio before I could come back to kiting. Knee is still shot but wearing a brace and back jumping again. My only advice:

1. Make sure your Orthopaedic Surgeon specialises in knees
2. If possible get a doner graph for the ACL... they tend to use your hamstring tendon and you loose so much hamstring you never get it back
3. make sure you do lots of quad strengthening before the operation. For some reason during/after the operation you loose 30-40% of your quad and it takes 6-8months to build it back up.
4. Ensure you have a fantastic physio that works with you surgeon on what should happen during your recovery period.
5. Do exactly as the physio says... no more or no less. You don't want to compromise the graph.
6. and lastly the knee will never be the same and best to invest in a brace specially built for ACL injuries. There are lots on the market but go and get one fitted by a professional. Wakeboarders use them all the time.
7. and don't forget to keep positive

Good luck... and I know you will be back kiting. Only you will know when it's right to go back kiting - everyone is different.
okin
okin
QLD
83 posts
QLD, 83 posts
10 Sep 2009 9:52am
I"ve had full knee recons in both knees
Was 2 weeks in a splint then 6 months before i started jogging.
I did lose alot of strength in my quad and hamstring from not using it for a good 6 months but it came back to strength quickly
I went and did physio for the first month 3 times a week.
then occasionally did it at home after that.
Been 5 years now since the op and knees feel as strong as ever i just use caution when attempting new things.
btw i had the hamstring tendon taken out to use as my acl and i never noticed a problem, i think ive got lots more tendons in there to not be a problem
rusty7
rusty7
QLD
504 posts
QLD, 504 posts
10 Sep 2009 11:25am
RIDDIM1 - I fully ruptured my petella tendon on the 9th of July and damaged all the assoiciated medial ,radial and hamstring ligiments.I am now 10 weeks post op. I have been working hard on my physio and try and swim daily to keep up cardio and not gain any more weight. This is a slow healing process and from what i have learned already ....do not try and rush your recovery from these type of injuries. It is very easy to re rupture the tendon and then you have to go right back to the start. Initially I was to have the wires and screw holding mine together removed in Feb 2010 but my last visit to the surgen yeilded good results and this has been bought foward to mid November now. I hope to be back on the water around Feb 2010,but this is not set in cincrete it will depend on alot of things. I won't go out if its not strong. The ability to do straight leg raises and ROM (range of motion) seems to be the key indicators of your recovery so do lots of straight leg raises all day long( as soon as you are allowed to), but take care do not push your ROM, use gavity alone (the Physio will explain). find a good sports physio, best way to identify those is if their rooms look like a torture chamber or gym. A nice rub and some ultrasound twice a week aint gonna do it for you. It is painful doing your exercises but you just got to push through it. It is bloody frustrating just how incapacitated you are with these injuries but its real important to keep a positive frame of mind, set your self a realistic goal or date to get back on the water it will be a minimum of 6 months, and do not short cut it. 1 slip and you go right back to the start. I know this is not great news for you but ...as you can tell from the replies that at least you are not alone.kgorton also offers excellent advice.
simonmm
simonmm
QLD
200 posts
QLD, 200 posts
10 Sep 2009 1:34pm
Had 3 Acl's, one tenodesis, cartlidge repair and a bunch of other arthroscopies. It is a crap injury. I'd rather have a compound fracture than having to go through the tedious recovery after an ACL. My best time back on a kite is about 3 or 4 months, worst would be about 9 months. Sometimes it goes better than others. Being dedicated to physio during recovery is a huge plus. In the early months you need to be a bit careful (I once snapped a hamstring doing physio after a graft), but from 3 or so months on the more work you put in the better the stability of the knee. These days I still do one or two days a week in the gym for knee specific stuff. Get a good orthopedic surgeon who does knees, likewise with a physio for recovery and if in doubt be patient.
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