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sebol
sebol
WA
753 posts
WA, 753 posts
23 Nov 2010 10:21am
Open to criticism here, but is there ever a record of someone getting seriously injured by being hit by a kite?

A lot of people seem all stressed up on the dangers of the kite and the lines (windsurfers think it can take your head clean off) but I have never heard of anyone being actually injured by a kite or line appart from getting tangled in the lines (wrap around a body part) and the kite relaunch down wind

I have been hit a couple of times by my mate while attempting to share waves and I can see how it could give you a decent wack but nothing life threatening as far as I can see.

I may be wrong but I get the feeling that a lot of people enjoy pushing the view that it is mega dangerous because it makes them feel that they are doing an extreme sport

It also feeds a lot of unescesary amunition for anyone who wants to ban kiting
bingles
bingles
WA
363 posts
WA, 363 posts
23 Nov 2010 10:33am
Kite wars - bring it on, last kite flying wins
ApatheticEnd
ApatheticEnd
WA
995 posts
WA, 995 posts
23 Nov 2010 10:40am
I've had line burns on my neck after a tangle up with another kiter. Smarts like a bastard but certainly not life threatening.
Trant
Trant
NSW
601 posts
NSW, 601 posts
23 Nov 2010 1:51pm
I hurt my ribs from laughing too much the last time I saw a Cab crash into a tree. Does that count?
destine
destine
NSW
157 posts
NSW, 157 posts
23 Nov 2010 1:58pm
i got hit by a noobs kite on the shoulder, i was also still learning at the time, stung a little by definitely nothing to worry about. it did come down really fast which scared me a little then was just like oh ok meh carry on
Gorgo
Gorgo
VIC
5127 posts
VIC, 5127 posts
23 Nov 2010 2:08pm
I have had a flap of skin detached from a finger after grabbing the front line at the wrong time. Conditions were extreme and it was a dumb thing to do at the time.

A mate says his brother de-gloved a finger (ie. tore all the flesh off) in what sounds like a minor oops that went seriously wrong. I cannot vouch for the truth of that but I don't think the mate is lying. It's a ghastly story but no different to what happens to people getting a finger crushed in a door or something similar.

So sh.t can happen, but mostly doesn't.

The dangers of kiting is pretty much irrelevant. The main issue is that people have a right to relax on the beach without getting bonked by a stray kite.

Similarly, kiters have a right to enjoy what is mainly a healthy and safe sport.

The solution is to mark designated kite launching and landing areas with signage so kiters can launch and land safely. It is not reasonable that beach goers can monopolise the whole strip of sand by the water on a hot day, just as it is unreasonable for kiters to impose themselves on all other beach users.

The anti-kiting sentiment from some windsurfers is just the usual internet self-convincing political crap. A few guys decide they don't like something so they spin themselves a story and convince themselves it is a fact and reinforce it by posting stuff on the net.
Jedibrad
Jedibrad
NSW
527 posts
NSW, 527 posts
23 Nov 2010 2:12pm
1) Yard sale in surf.... Board goes out in rip, comes back in on a wave, i think "that's heading for my kite" so i catch it... broken rib

2) Tried to hold on to my board by the footstrap as a wave came and got clobered in the head so hard i saw stars

Neither to bad but the potential is there
sebol
sebol
WA
753 posts
WA, 753 posts
23 Nov 2010 11:24am
I agree Gorgo, but a degloved finger would be from the line wrapping around then kite relaunching.

That can only happen to yourself as a flying kite with tense lines is not going to wrap around someone else's body part.

I think we are all aware of the grunt of a kite and willing to accept the risk to ourselves.

I was trying to find out more specifically about third party being hit by kites or lines and any subsequent damage.

As for getting hit by the board, anyone who surfs would have had some nasty encounter with a stray board (your own quite often) so I wouldn't count that as a kite specific injury (unless if you have a leash to your board in which case you pay the self inflected consequences of your actions).
KIT33R
KIT33R
NSW
1716 posts
NSW, 1716 posts
23 Nov 2010 2:49pm
Your wallet can take a serious pounding if you run a line across the neck of someones kid on the beach.
Zed
Zed
WA
1274 posts
Zed Zed
WA, 1274 posts
23 Nov 2010 12:36pm
I don't know of any serious injuries, but there's been a few members of the public that have taken a good whack & enough close calls for it to be an issue.

I can see how it could give you a decent wack


You're obviously a bit of a tough guy & can handle a decent whack, but imagine a young kid or elderly person getting hit?
sebol
sebol
WA
753 posts
WA, 753 posts
23 Nov 2010 12:48pm
No, I am weak as piss but I will take the compliment
bennie
bennie
ACT
1258 posts
ACT, 1258 posts
23 Nov 2010 4:27pm
I would feel like inflicting a serious injury on any kiter who hit or came close to hitting my little daughter playing on the beach!
Big eeeZeee
Big eeeZeee
NSW
1100 posts
NSW, 1100 posts
23 Nov 2010 5:49pm
wind was dying off so i came in, had the kite at 12 and then suddenly i see my lines go slack. Kite hindenburgs in slow motion (nothing i could do as I was in waste deep water) and powers up in the bottom of the window, drags me off my feet face down into the water and takes out a lady sun baking by the shore. She struggled to get the damn thing off her and i felt so so bad! She was mega pissed and probably bloody embarrassed herself.... Luckily nothing came of it in the end. I am heaps more conscious now of kiting on a crowded beach!!!!
harry potter
harry potter
VIC
2777 posts
VIC, 2777 posts
23 Nov 2010 6:28pm
Almost had my ear severed.......ended up with 13 stitches.........

Was kiting at Phillip island whilst a mate was setting up on the beach... I noticed he was having trouble self launching... so I came in to assist.... I put my kite out on the edge of the wind window ( wingtip on the water ) and began moving my mates kite around a bunch of seaweed so he could launch once it was in position I yelled out wait wait until im out of the way to which he nodded and waved as soon as I turned to walk back into the water he launched and hit me square in the side of the head .... I was knocked out and ended up facedown in the shorebreak but luckily another mate who was taking photos heard the hit and saw me go down he pulled me up within 10 seconds, unfortunately my ear was now hanging and split in half

I dont know if it was the impact of the leading edge and stitching or the bridal that did the damage but I spent the rest of Cup Day 09 in the Wonthaggi hospital getting put back together.

I was more pi$$ed off about missing the rest of what was shaping as a ripper session.
bingles
bingles
WA
363 posts
WA, 363 posts
23 Nov 2010 3:33pm
Is it worth seeing the photo? well - not sure, i think Sebol may actually be trying to bring to poeples attention tha fact that it may be extremely rare or even non existent that someone (public) has actually being injured by a kite in any serious form?? Seb?? Maybe it is all a bit more sensationalised than it actually is..(still cant blame me for wanting to see the photo -Seb, stop getting me in trouble )

Hey harry potter - only 13 stiches?? bah! thats nothin

AND, 98% the injuries mentioned have been kiters - not general public.
little o
little o
WA
405 posts
WA, 405 posts
23 Nov 2010 3:42pm
are you trying to give the opposition something to use in the battle?? We were up against local community and they scourered seabreeze and WAKSA
INfiniDIE
INfiniDIE
WA
478 posts
WA, 478 posts
23 Nov 2010 3:55pm
Eh, I remember that WAKSA vs local community mullaloo meeting... wasnt the vote 80 to 3?
And you can't cite precedence on a chat forum, it's like using wikipedia as a source in an assignment.
kimpa
kimpa
25 posts
25 posts
23 Nov 2010 3:58pm
What about emotional scars? Many years ago when I’d just got my first Bow kite I was doing the walk of shame due to super light winds. There was a 50+ German woman sun baking topless in just a fluro yellow thong. I’d been commenting on places to park my bike etc. then on the last walk back the kite dropped from the sky and got stuck in the tree she was lying under (it was a naish not a cab sorry). I spent the next two hours with her climbing the tree helping me get the kite unstuck - you cannot imagine the view. I would have given anything to be somewhere else on that day – I still have that kite but it hasn’t been out of the bag since.
lotofwind
lotofwind
NSW
6451 posts
NSW, 6451 posts
23 Nov 2010 7:22pm
^^^^^So are you still going out with her or what???
kimpa
kimpa
25 posts
25 posts
23 Nov 2010 5:09pm
no, i think greenpeace came by later and rolled her back in the water
sebol
sebol
WA
753 posts
WA, 753 posts
23 Nov 2010 5:19pm
Sorry Bingles,

I think you got my draft pretty sussed, although based on Hary potter's post, there could be slightly more danger than I anticipated but it won't stop me from scrubing my kite with yours and enjoy staring at your white face phhewww,that was close
radman4
radman4
678 posts
678 posts
23 Nov 2010 6:51pm
Copped a looping cab in the face once just managed to spot it at the last second and slide down on the board but took the brunt of the lines across my face cut through my neck, jaw,cheek and side of my nose ,was a bit scabby for a few weeks but nothin serious ,although gave a few a scare while i was still riding for the next hour while still bleeding,got a few funny looks.
beefarmer
beefarmer
WA
328 posts
WA, 328 posts
23 Nov 2010 10:07pm
maybe a little off the topic seb was after but a friend of mine got clipped in the face by a stray bar from a trainer kite. several stitches and a scar on her face to remember it by, she wasn't happy and nor would anybody else be.

I'd hate to think what a bar attached to a powered up full-sized kite would've done.




NJPornstar
NJPornstar
WA
790 posts
WA, 790 posts
23 Nov 2010 10:28pm
beefarmer said...

maybe a little off the topic seb was after but a friend of mine got clipped in the face by a stray bar from a trainer kite. several stitches and a scar on her face to remember it by, she wasn't happy and nor would anybody else be.

I'd hate to think what a bar attached to a powered up full-sized kite would've done.







Hey Nick,
That incident went to court and she received 10,000. (I dont think that was enough)
She wasn't clipped it was pegged at her head.
That was one of the saddest days to see my xgirlfriends face get smashed open. She has never been the same since. Completely unnecessary and a dangerous stunt done by a well known xshop owner on this forum .


bingles
bingles
WA
363 posts
WA, 363 posts
23 Nov 2010 10:36pm
Ok, easy tiger's, getting into dangerous territory there..... the reference is towards non kiters being injured. (Tigers')?? Police?[}:)]
BennyB12
BennyB12
QLD
918 posts
QLD, 918 posts
24 Nov 2010 1:50am
Ya sebol good post... Ive been kiting for a few years and ive seen some poor displays of kitemanship(is that a word?) But some how in any incident, be it a kite crashing onto the beach or a kiter bein lofted into a building, Ive never heard of a civilian being caught up in the carnage...
Me I like that kiting isnt very safe, actually it isnt very safe at all....
Attatching 65-100 kilos of human to 9-12 metres of kite in 15-30 knots of wind is not smart, but **** me is it fun..
Im a fatalist and loathe the insurance agencies that pray on our fears of financial destruction through stupidity.......
AKSonline
AKSonline
WA
925 posts
WA, 925 posts
24 Nov 2010 12:10am
NJPornstar said...

She wasn't clipped it was pegged at her head.



WTF???

DM
Bigwavedave
Bigwavedave
QLD
2057 posts
QLD, 2057 posts
24 Nov 2010 4:42am
Just because you haven't heard about them doesn't mean they don't happen. WA doesn't have the crowds on the beaches that the east coast has. There have been several incidences. Why do you think AKSA insurance premiums went up?

It's really important to have some kind of insurance. Court costs and medical bills alone are enough without compensation.

If you want official records, I'm sure they are documented somewhere.

If all you read is seabreeze then you won't hear of many incidences.
KIT33R
KIT33R
NSW
1716 posts
NSW, 1716 posts
24 Nov 2010 9:10am
NJPornstar said...

beefarmer said...

maybe a little off the topic seb was after but a friend of mine got clipped in the face by a stray bar from a trainer kite. several stitches and a scar on her face to remember it by, she wasn't happy and nor would anybody else be.

I'd hate to think what a bar attached to a powered up full-sized kite would've done.







Hey Nick,
That incident went to court and she received 10,000. (I dont think that was enough)
She wasn't clipped it was pegged at her head.
That was one of the saddest days to see my xgirlfriends face get smashed open. She has never been the same since. Completely unnecessary and a dangerous stunt done by a well known xshop owner on this forum .





If you are a member of AKSA your public liability insurance could save you from a very hefty bill. Think about it. Sh!t happens. (Pegging aside)
djdojo
djdojo
VIC
1614 posts
VIC, 1614 posts
24 Nov 2010 10:43am
I've never been in a car crash. I still wear a seatbelt.

I've never crashed my kite into someone or lost control of it on the land. I still take care to be a decent distance from anyone downwind.

By definition, a kite that may crash into someone is out of control.
By definition, an out of control kite is moving fast (or hindenberging with slack lines).
By definition, a kite that crashes while moving fast is pointed downwards (or else it wouldn't crash).
So, with the hindenberg exception, a crashing kite is out of control and moving fast with some part of the leafing edge (or lines) being the first point of contact.

Sebol asked for actual incidents and I don't have one, but I'm pretty sure that if I dive my fully powered kite from 12 o'clock straight down and clocked someone's head with the middle of the firmly inflated leading edge then there would be several busted vertebrae and possibly a severed spinal cord.

The chances of it happening are small. Still, anything you can do to further diminish the odds has to be worth doing.
BennyB12
BennyB12
QLD
918 posts
QLD, 918 posts
24 Nov 2010 10:14am
Why do you think AKSA insurance premiums went up?



Because Insurance companies are greedy?

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