Assisted launching and landing

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RK
RK
WA
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RK RK
WA, 102 posts
21 Nov 2008 11:57pm
I was kiting last week (four days on my 8m ) and had some trouble finding someone to launch and land me. However I don't mind doing it solo but there was about 10 kiters on the beach down wind to give me a hand but ignored me when I tried to get there attention. One Dude even rolled his eyes when I ask him politely.

I actually keep an eye out for people around me who look like they are ready to go and ask them if they need assistance (but I'm nice like that )

A few things came to my mind
1. Did I have my shorts over my wetty (no)
2. Did I have a helmet with a camera on it (no)
3. Did I have bootys and gloves on (no)
4. Did I use a wind meter beforehand (no) Nic
5. Did my kite fade in the sun and look pink (no)

Any suggestions??

flemboyant
flemboyant
VIC
375 posts
VIC, 375 posts
22 Nov 2008 2:13am
maybe it was the lipstick?
gruezi
gruezi
WA
3464 posts
WA, 3464 posts
22 Nov 2008 12:13am
Did you actually go up to someone and politely asked if they could give you a "chuck?" I know of no kiter here that has or would refuse someone...you just have to ask I believe...people want to help, but you should really also be prepared to self launch because it is often quicker, but certainly riskier

Hope this helps.

It's not the cloths you wear.
RK
RK
WA
102 posts
RK RK
WA, 102 posts
22 Nov 2008 12:18am
Hehe, dude the lipstick could be the problem but it works better than sunscreen
phrase
phrase
WA
228 posts
WA, 228 posts
22 Nov 2008 2:27am
Let me guess. You were at woodies and it`s not your usual spot?
RK
RK
WA
102 posts
RK RK
WA, 102 posts
22 Nov 2008 3:38am
No not woodies and it was my usual spot.
the people mentioned where not locals or Australian.
NSW, 4382 posts
22 Nov 2008 9:18am
RK said...


the people mentioned where not locals or Australian.


There's ya problem!!

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve McHelpful
Mr float
Mr float
NSW
3452 posts
NSW, 3452 posts
22 Nov 2008 9:46am
Kitepower Australia said...

RK said...


the people mentioned where not locals or Australian.


There's ya problem!!

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve McHelpful


yup
TOAD
TOAD
NSW
305 posts
NSW, 305 posts
22 Nov 2008 11:45am
If there's room , I allways self launch . Good to keep in practice and gives me confidence for the time when you might have a tricky launch spot with no one arround ...
phrase
phrase
WA
228 posts
WA, 228 posts
22 Nov 2008 10:52am
I went down safety bay last saturday and there was about six fellows there, said hello to them. (not ozzy`s, very broken english) Two of them had their board leashes attatched and I thought "please go somewhere else with those stupid things."
Also, safety bay has such a big area to set up that`s far away from the trees, road, power lines etc, why do people (even some locals) still set up by the beach closest to the road? These are the people that think nothing wrong ever happens to them.
I saw one tool and he is a local young lad, fly his kite right up to the trees and land it there. Why! I know at some spots you don`t have a lot of choice, but safety bay has a nice big safe bay area.
As for landing and launching. I`m always looking around in case someone needs a hand. (funnny, cause I`m not AUSTRALIAN).
Glennno
Glennno
QLD
124 posts
QLD, 124 posts
22 Nov 2008 2:58pm
I did a bit of kiting in Frog land and I must say yeah well... It's good to be home
KAOS69
KAOS69
WA
1012 posts
WA, 1012 posts
22 Nov 2008 8:14pm
if you cant launch or land yourself what happens when you crash your kite out in deep end of the pool ??? do you wait for someone to come and save you or do you learn the basics of kiting before you ask someone to stop rigging up to attend to your needs . perhaps you would have better luck if you asked "can i rig up for you than would you mind helping me launch" you may think that you are the only person who needs help but when you are asked many, many times before you get to the water yourself .well , you have seen the response you will get . it is so easy to learn self take off and land 10 mins tops ( for your own safety you should learn) a lot of the time the launcher can get you in a lot of trouble if they don't know what they are doing or in a bad mood it also helps if you ever want to kite by yourself . don t be in such a hurry to get out there and take some time to learn the basics . you will be surprised how easy it is .
RK
RK
WA
102 posts
RK RK
WA, 102 posts
22 Nov 2008 8:45pm
KAOS69 said...

if you cant launch or land yourself what happens when you crash your kite out in deep end if the pool ??? do you wait for someone to come and save you or do you learn the basics of kiting before you ask someone to stop rigging up to attend to your needs . perhaps you would have better luck if you asked "can i rig up for you than would you mind helping me launch" you may think that you are the only person who needs help but when you are asked many, many times before you get to the water yourself .well , you have seen the responce you will get . it is so easy to learn self take off and land 10 mins tops ( for your own safety you should learn) a lot of the time the launcher can get you in a lot of trouble if they don't what they are doing or in a bad mood it also helps if ever want to kite by yourself


Kaos69, if you took the time to read my post properly you would see that the problem was not self launching or landing at all, the message is the attitude of some people helping others, these people weren’t rigging up they where standing around talking. (why self launch when there is other people on the beach down wind to give you a hand)
KAOS69
KAOS69
WA
1012 posts
WA, 1012 posts
22 Nov 2008 8:47pm
why ask other people to help you if you can do it yourself.?????
RK
RK
WA
102 posts
RK RK
WA, 102 posts
22 Nov 2008 9:00pm
KAOS69 said...

why ask other people to help you if you can do it yourself.?????


I would never put anyone down wind in danger in case something goes wrong, I only launch solo when there is know one around.
Imagine hurting someone or some child when all you had to do is ask, that’s not something I would do to anyone or this sport.
sofled
sofled
WA
53 posts
WA, 53 posts
22 Nov 2008 9:08pm
I agree with rk
yeh its great knowledge to be able to self launch and stuff but if he turned around and did that and then some other kook is like 'hows this knob at the local kite beach self launched with us down wind of him and then it well pear shaped and almost hit us....he could have asked for a launch' you would all be then calling rk a knob for not asking well now he has asked so he was doing the safe thing and not putting the rep of the sport in risk.

i think its stupid how he rolled his eyes at you, it takes like 1 mintue tops to land a kite and launch one. sadly we cant do anything about it but people readding these forums should change there attitude.
KAOS69
KAOS69
WA
1012 posts
WA, 1012 posts
22 Nov 2008 9:09pm
maybe you shouldn't kite on such crowded beaches if there is no room for mistakes .
RK
RK
WA
102 posts
RK RK
WA, 102 posts
22 Nov 2008 9:15pm
KAOS69 said...

maybe you shouldn't kite on such crowded beaches if there is no room for mistakes .


Kaos69, I see myself as a competent safe kiter with a few years under my belt, but not for one second do I think I wont make a mistake at anytime. (No one is perfect dude)
KAOS69
KAOS69
WA
1012 posts
WA, 1012 posts
22 Nov 2008 9:34pm
is this not a free country we live in if someone chooses for what ever reason not to run to assist you , is that not there right to do so with out criticism from you ???? it sounds as though you expect help and may have been a bit upset when they did not jump when you expected them to . cool down a bit dude and you may find people a bit more helpful . enough said, hope theres wind tomorrow we all need a good hit out
RK
RK
WA
102 posts
RK RK
WA, 102 posts
22 Nov 2008 9:44pm
KAOS69 said...

is this not a free country we live in if someone chooses for what ever reason not to run to assist you , is that not there right to do so with out criticism from you ???? it sounds as though you expect help and may have been a bit upset when they did not jump when you expected them to . cool down a bit dude and you may find people a bit more helpful . enough said, hope theres wind tomorrow we all need a good hit out


I never made a huge issue out of this I just wanted to share something that I have experience, isn’t that what forums are about?

I’m not sure why you decided to make this so personal for you KAOS69 this post wasn’t about you.
phrase
phrase
WA
228 posts
WA, 228 posts
23 Nov 2008 3:33am
I think KAOS69 doesn`t understand the concept of of common certacy, or the fact that the kiteboarding, kitesurfing community has always had the attitude of looking out for each other.
There`s so much I can say why KAOS69 has it so wrong, but it`s just not worth it, because I know that the majority of us are there for each other.
lovey
lovey
NSW
177 posts
NSW, 177 posts
23 Nov 2008 7:41am
i think kaos69 must be bored and is baiting you guys - no one could seriously be such a nob.
mattyjee
mattyjee
WA
575 posts
WA, 575 posts
23 Nov 2008 9:09am
I'm still curious about how you got 4 days in on an 8m last week in WA? It's obviously not perth...
cwamit
cwamit
WA
1194 posts
WA, 1194 posts
23 Nov 2008 9:13am
had 3 days on the 7 meter and 2 days on the 12 this week, id be feeling bliss if my body wasn't so sore
SammyJ
SammyJ
WA
571 posts
WA, 571 posts
23 Nov 2008 12:34pm
mattyjee said...

I'm still curious about how you got 4 days in on an 8m last week in WA? It's obviously not perth...


See the water tanks in the back ground in rk's avatar....well there are 2 towns with those and they get more wind than anywhere else along the west coast.
Jimmyz
Jimmyz
NSW
446 posts
NSW, 446 posts
23 Nov 2008 5:30pm
KAOS69 said...

is this not a free country we live in is that not there right to do so with out criticism from you ????


Pfft, someone obviously doesn't know what a right is.
tightlines
tightlines
WA
3510 posts
WA, 3510 posts
23 Nov 2008 4:02pm
SammyJ said...


See the water tanks in the back ground in rk's avatar....well there are 2 towns with those and they get more wind than anywhere else along the west coast.


Yep I was thinking the same thing myself Sammy
RK
RK
WA
102 posts
RK RK
WA, 102 posts
23 Nov 2008 4:55pm
tightlines said...

SammyJ said...


See the water tanks in the back ground in rk's avatar....well there are 2 towns with those and they get more wind than anywhere else along the west coast.


Yep I was thinking the same thing myself Sammy


It’s a little windier there than what the graphs show.

I always take my 8m even when it shows 12m conditions.
Donut
Donut
VIC
7 posts
VIC, 7 posts
24 Nov 2008 6:00pm
I found your problem in point one.... no shorts over your wetty.... Get with the times!
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