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Lukelano
Lukelano
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2 Feb 2012 1:05am


Hi folks
I have 2 boys 9 and 11 yrs old. They asked me everyday if i can teach them to kite. They both have been going to trigg SLC since nippers. So they are competent swimmers to some extent. They can both surf very well for ther age. They have been playing with my trainer kites for about 2 years. i have had them body draging in the white wash on the 3 metre trainer and have taken to it well.
Has anyone else taught there kids or let them get lessons
I mainly kite from scarb, pinnaroo, sometimes rocko. I wouldn't let them go out yet at any of
these locations. does anybody know of anywhere
local, far north or south with a sheltered bay that is shallow (waist deep) that still gets a breeze that i can teach them. Also have boat access to have the centre console on hand
Any advise will be appreciated


cheers
buzingfridge
buzingfridge
WA
147 posts
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2 Feb 2012 2:02am
This is a great question, i have often thought it myself as i have double trouble but a bit younger and i cant wait to get them out. I windsurfed from 10years old as my old man was a keen sailer, this gave me a understanding of sailing basics at a early age. I have thought with my boys I would introduce them to a cataram around 8/ 9 years (already flying stunt/ trainer kites), just by hire some where in perth for a few sessions, then enquire about kitesurf lessons, just to take it out of my hands for basics. Then itroduce flat shallow water , then just hit the beach....... wammo........ every freakin day... when there is wind ...... yeahhhhh
Plummet
Plummet
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4862 posts
2 Feb 2012 4:43am
do it.
superlizard
superlizard
VIC
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2 Feb 2012 7:56am
Check out the rotate button in the Windows Picture Viewer...

Also, you may find this useful:
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Kitesurfing/General/Kite-sizerider-weightwind-chart/

Raincrow
Raincrow
WA
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2 Feb 2012 5:06am
Let them choose and youll be surprise!
KIT33R
KIT33R
NSW
1716 posts
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2 Feb 2012 8:59am
My youngest son started when he was 12. Now 21 and still kiting. They learn quickly. Don't worry too much where you go, just stay close.
JayP
JayP
QLD
249 posts
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2 Feb 2012 9:16am
get your boys to a cable park so they can get the feel of edging a twin tip and being pulled along. add this to their trainer kite skills and they will be charging up wind in no time.
lostinlondon
lostinlondon
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2 Feb 2012 10:53am
I started sailing single handed boats in NZ when I was 12, and I was considered old. I used to skipper in National level regattas in 2 handed boats not long after. (I'm not going to lie, I didn't win anything and came close to the back of the fleet but did well on handicap).

I think your eldest - no dramas - by your account it sounds like he can handle himself in the water. It comes down to the individual but if your kids don't flap under pressure then I think they would be fine.

I'm pretty sure I have seen photos of a 7 or 8 year old kid kiting on Seabreeze.

Ewan Jaspan (National Junior Champ, 2nd Mens Open) started when he was about 12 I think.

I guess the issue is cost - he will be growing and may need to change kites every season. Bonus being - you can pass them down to your younger son.
KiteBud
KiteBud
WA
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2 Feb 2012 9:56am
I think it's awesome if your kids want to get into kiting at an early stage. I have been teaching a few kids myself (12, 14, 16 y/o) and have seen lessons with a 9 year old. I don't think age is the problem but I believe it would be a good idea to get them some lessons so they can understand the safety systems back to front and perform self-recues in deep water situations, as well as body dragging upwind and board recovery, also in deep water. Given their experience, I think one lesson will suffice. Would also recommend helmets and life vest at all times.

Also it would be a good idea to have them watch the latest beginner progression DVD, available at most kite shops. One of the best kites for kids to learn on is the Ozone Uno, it's an inflatable trainer kite. ozonekites.com/products/water-kites

Basically it's the exact same setup as any inflatable kite, 4 lines and the ability to depower, etc. With this, you can have them work on water relaunching, kite stability and control, and the sweet spot on the bar. They over-sheet easily due to their small size, so it's great to teach anyone about how to prevent and react upon over sheeting...

If you're interested in more info, please PM message me.

Cheers,

Chris
Saffer
Saffer
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2 Feb 2012 1:05pm
There was a guy in Durban who started his kids on trainers at 5 and starting them kiting at 7. They needed custom boards due to their size but after 6 months they were already pulling tricks most senior kiters could only dream of. And that was in the old days of C kites with very little range.
GalahOnTheBay
GalahOnTheBay
NSW
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2 Feb 2012 1:21pm
^^^ What they said

Like skiing the earlier they get in to it the easier it is to learn.

Damn those grommets!
harry potter
harry potter
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2 Feb 2012 1:37pm
GalahOnTheBay said...

^^^ What they said

Like skiing the earlier they get in to it the easier it is to learn.

Damn those grommets!


so true........

and frustrating at times............. you see young kids in the surf lineup battling then one year later these same kids are punting off waves and getting deep in the pit...
TurtleHunter
TurtleHunter
WA
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2 Feb 2012 10:55am
I have had a few kids pestering me to go kiting lately and have got 2 of them up and going this year. You really have to teach them setup and safety over and over but the actual riding comes pretty easy if they already have the kite skills from a trainer.
You will need to get them a Harness that fits well even though they will grow out of it quickly and make sure they always wear a pfd that fits too (not that easy). As for kites at 40kg they should be right on a 6m in 12 to 15kn although can still control it in the water up to 18kn pretty easily. Once on land though they will have trouble controlling the kite above 15kn so keep them in the water and be ready to grab the kite for them. The other problem for smaller kids is they don't have the reach to depower the kite. I have been using the ozone catalysts as relaunch is easy (they do find it hard to get enough tension on the rear line when in deep water) and have a relatively short bar throw I just need to find a smaller chicken loop for some of the shorter kids (25 to 30kg). The uno is good when the wind picks up but really needs 17kn to fly and relaunch properly. I have also used a 4m catalyst but that also needs a little more than the 6m to work properly.
Hope this helps but maybe also get a wind meter as the wind needs to be spot on for them( start in 12 to 15kn and progress from there) and don't let them get scared as that will be the end.
juicerider
juicerider
WA
790 posts
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2 Feb 2012 10:58am
HI Lukelano
I have been teaching my 10 year old boys to kite the last couple of weeks. I don't think there is any particular age when you can start to teach them, it is an individual thing and their maturity and ability to concentrate on what they are being told is more important.
Get them a really small bow kite with plenty of de-power, I got mine a 5m Flow, but for there first time body dragging try to borrow an Uno. It is only 2.5m but will give them plenty of confidence and not scare them. Young kids can be very easily put off so go very slowly with them and don't push them. Defiantly get a small life jacket and crash helmet and a very small harness that fits properly.
I have been teaching mine at Pinnarroo and if you get down early, just as the seabreeze comes in or wait till after about 5.30 it is not too crowded.
Definitely try and get hold of "Progression Beginners" DVD and treat this as homework before they go out, so that they know what to expect.
Unless you have taught kitesurfing before I would say get professional lessons. Imagine facing there Mum if something went wrong.
Listen to what cbulota says, I have seen him have good success teaching young kids at AKS. I also recon Christiana at AKS would also be good at teaching kids cos she has her own and would know how to teach kids. You cant teach kids the same as you teach adults. If you do pay for professional lessons make sure you check out, and are confident with the individual that will be leaching your kids, not just the school.
The most important thing is to go very slow, not push them and make sure they fully understand everything they have been told.
Hope this helps and wind permitting I'll be down at Pinnarroo this weekend with my boys, Im easy to spot I'll have 2 noisy 10 year olds bouncing around me. So come and say Hi
Hope this helps
Steve
Lukelano
Lukelano
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10 posts
2 Feb 2012 3:22pm
Thanks for all the replies
Some interesting points made. The bar distance when depowered! Never thought of that. Do they make kites for kids? Or can u have bar and lines customized to suit. I will definetly get them a few lessons with an instructor. Can anyone recommend someone who patient and good with Kids.
Cheers.
Luke
aro
aro
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2 Feb 2012 9:26pm
hi guys wish you the best im 10 and i kite hope these tips help
i fly a 5, 7, and 10 ozone C4 plenty of power and depower.
what ever kite you choose make sure it has a small chicken loop and make sure you can reach the depower.
i started body draging on a 3 meter and flying it on the beach
the board was the main thing. i needed a small one (124,126)and foot straps to fit my feet. nobile 2011 and underground foot straps work best for me.
i dont like wearing my life jacket but its saved me a few times.....
and by the way my dad taught me, he might of taught me to well because now i can kick his butt.
Jr Walks
Jr Walks
WA
284 posts
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2 Feb 2012 7:17pm
I learnt when i was 12, we have a grom learning at the moment at 8 years old (Spot1 confirm?)
Dad also stuck a nice bright orange lifejacket on me so i was visible
Main thing is that they pay attention in the lessons, as we lose interest really quickly if we aren't flying the kite.
I'd recommend getting them a safety lesson at a school and then teach them off that.
mullaz would be a good spot for teaching but the boat wouldn't be viable and it can get a little crowded, but the kiters know to stay away from newbies.

Kite Boarding Perth + AKS are both familiar with teaching kids.
And bear in mind that your kids will want to kite with other people their age, Pinnaroo and mullaz both have multiple groms although they are a bit older than yours.
Goodluck
superlizard
superlizard
VIC
702 posts
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2 Feb 2012 10:33pm
one way to get some board skills going...



I'm planning to try get him on the kite board next session...
harry potter
harry potter
VIC
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2 Feb 2012 10:48pm
aro said...

hi guys wish you the best im 10 and i kite hope these tips help
i fly a 5, 7, and 10 ozone C4 plenty of power and depower.
what ever kite you choose make sure it has a small chicken loop and make sure you can reach the depower.
i started body draging on a 3 meter and flying it on the beach
the board was the main thing. i needed a small one (124,126)and foot straps to fit my feet. nobile 2011 and underground foot straps work best for me.
i dont like wearing my life jacket but its saved me a few times.....
and by the way my dad taught me, he might of taught me to well because now i can kick his butt.


A more mature post than most on here .... Lol. Good luck little dude
cauncy
cauncy
WA
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2 Feb 2012 8:55pm
Little lagoon denham,can get a touch lumpy the wind in an easterly but really shallow ,follow them around on a sup or kyak
Smithy
Smithy
VIC
859 posts
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3 Feb 2012 12:38am
Wow 7 in Durban, I take a group of 7 year olds at the local SLC nippers, there is not one kid in the group that would be anywhere near ready to start kiting.
Lukelano
Lukelano
10 posts
10 posts
2 Feb 2012 9:45pm
harry potter said...

aro said...

hi guys wish you the best im 10 and i kite hope these tips help
i fly a 5, 7, and 10 ozone C4 plenty of power and depower.
what ever kite you choose make sure it has a small chicken loop and make sure you can reach the depower.
i started body draging on a 3 meter and flying it on the beach
the board was the main thing. i needed a small one (124,126)and foot straps to fit my feet. nobile 2011 and underground foot straps work best for me.
i dont like wearing my life jacket but its saved me a few times.....
and by the way my dad taught me, he might of taught me to well because now i can kick his butt.


A more mature post than most on here .... Lol. Good luck little dude


Have to agree with you potter... puts his words together better than me
and ARO keep it mate
Puetz
Puetz
NT
2186 posts
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3 Feb 2012 6:26am
... don't do it dude, soon enough the little buggers will be showing you up and kicking your arse!

Lukelano
Lukelano
10 posts
10 posts
3 Feb 2012 5:50am
Haha... josh the eldest already does in the surf...Haha..i occasionally go out with them for a surf and he always seems to be right in the sweet spot. maybe im just getting old...
Have had quite a few pm's and am gratefull to everyone who has replied. Boys are keen as mustard so its on....i spoke with darren from AKS and he said they need to be 12 and up, which i can appreciate for safety on both sides. So unless i can get someone privately might just have to go it alone. But have taken everything in from all the advise...
Much appreciated guys..
Cheers Luke
myusernam
myusernam
QLD
6159 posts
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3 Feb 2012 8:35am
i think it depends on the spot a lot too. how safe is it, how deep. many other kiters etc. If there are no downwind dangers like powerlines etc, not many kiters too negotiate and the water is waist deep the whole way it would mean you could teach them a lot earlier than if you had to kite into deep water/ high current/ lots of kiters etc
kiteboy dave
kiteboy dave
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3 Feb 2012 1:28pm
No one mentioned Dimitri's son Cameron? Kiting at 5. (better than me at 7?)


Hopey
Hopey
QLD
178 posts
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3 Feb 2012 3:31pm
Depends on the individual child IMO.....maturity, ability to listen and retain learnings, confidence, body weight etc.
I have 2 boys (5 & 7yrs old) and both have been flying and playing with a Slingy B2 trainer for last year or so.
We waterski regularly and both boys are up skiing (they both started at 4yrs of age). My plan is to get them comfortable wakeboarding first, keep them flying the B2 in the meantime as much as possible, then in a year or so introduce my eldest to the bigger kites.

Cant wait for the day when I hit the beach and head out for 25+knot sesh with both my boys putting me to shame
RAL INN
RAL INN
SA
2898 posts
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3 Feb 2012 4:49pm
There is no reason not to let them learn.
Maybe they will listen more to a instructor not related.
The only pre-requirement I would look for is that they really want to do it, they will need that inner drive to keep at it. Also understanding where the wind is coming from etc. will be very helpful. Maybe even a few goes on a windsurfer will help this.
Let their friends come to watch etc. as this will be a good motivation.

In fact getting a 2 line stunt kite that they can teach their friends kiting will do more to motivate them to continue than anything else.

Most of all, the entire process has to be fun, not work. and that is the real trick.
stabber
stabber
NSW
1114 posts
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3 Feb 2012 9:47pm
You should not teach your kids untill they are at least 18.....or else you'll have to pay for their bleedin' gear as well as your own....

Kiting is our last bastion of solitude....don't take the fun outa your day AWAY from the family....

Don't do it.... I beg you NOOOOOO.


Unless they are stabber kite fans then go for it.
rod_bunny
rod_bunny
WA
1089 posts
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5 Feb 2012 3:02pm
Robbie Shire Maidment / National Flexifoil Rider 15 Years Old
"Robbie is the smallest kite addict out there. He is a dab hand at buggying, landboarding and freestyle kitesurfing. Being the Flexifoil mascot at every Flexifoil event for years has made Robbie learn fast and grow up with an uber relaxed, nonchalant attitude.

Robbie's Mum and Dad have supported him to the utmost since he started flying a one liner at the age of 5. As Robbie got bigger he moved onto a two liner. By the age of 6 he was cruising on a landboard? the rest is history! Robbie's main passion is now freestyle on the water and you can see him ripping it up at the BKSA Tour in the Juniors and at the European Junior Championships. Watch out, Robbie's on the way up a big way!"



I remember kiting with him back in 2004! He was flying the same size kite as I was... a 4.9m Blade 3!


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