Aussie Sessions, Episode 2

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whiteside
whiteside
WA
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WA, 7 posts
10 Feb 2011 7:29pm
Hey guys check my new vid out, its the second from my series of videos while im out here, its mainly filmed at safety bay and woodman's point!



lowkite
lowkite
WA
61 posts
WA, 61 posts
10 Feb 2011 7:37pm
sweeeeeetttt!!!
kiter zac
kiter zac
QLD
295 posts
QLD, 295 posts
10 Feb 2011 9:37pm
great vid mate!! kite low, power, nice work!!!!
bene313
bene313
WA
1347 posts
WA, 1347 posts
11 Feb 2011 9:16am
Euros beware: sharks, boxing kangaroos, rat eating spiders and spider eating hornets in WA!
James01
James01
QLD
283 posts
QLD, 283 posts
12 Feb 2011 10:35pm
cool vid, very nice riding
INTHELOOP
INTHELOOP
QLD
1855 posts
QLD, 1855 posts
13 Feb 2011 10:58am
some nice nice moves and stashes Luke.

good to see me in the vid riding out the back in Safety Bay on my GTS at 1.13. LOL
Capt.Gumby
Capt.Gumby
QLD
354 posts
QLD, 354 posts
13 Feb 2011 3:08pm
Well done. Great riding!
SammyJ
SammyJ
WA
571 posts
WA, 571 posts
13 Feb 2011 9:54pm
Nice riding, but no wonder our 2 spots are ruined for 4 months whilst we suffer your euro invasion. You naming spots in your description like this is bulls###, I've kited my local once in the past 10 weeks. I can't even get parking at my local now because you guy's park in our spot and not the Euro spot. You suck, the local schools suck and I'm voting for a ban at safety bay. It's absolute disgusting, the one time I went back in the past month I heard a eurro shout to his mate F### the locals and continued doing short tacks and flying his kite low no matter what tack.

You whiteside are the same as Ned and Simon....come get your photo's and vid at everyone's inconvenience publish how great you are then f### off for your season of competition.

Sorry I don't tell you what you want to hear, but I'm over it. While I'm at it, would one of you pricks landing on the grass hurry up and get hit by a car because seeing kites in the tree everyday aint gonna get it banned in a hurry. We need guts and brains splat across the road to really send the message you brain dead f### wits. Why do the French and Italians seem to think they are invincible

Red Thumb away, couldn't give a fat rats clacker
ApatheticEnd
ApatheticEnd
WA
995 posts
WA, 995 posts
13 Feb 2011 10:20pm
SammyJ said...

Nice riding, but no wonder our 2 spots are ruined for 4 months whilst we suffer your euro invasion. You naming spots in your description like this is bulls###, I've kited my local once in the past 10 weeks. I can't even get parking at my local now because you guy's park in our spot and not the Euro spot. You suck, the local schools suck and I'm voting for a ban at safety bay. It's absolute disgusting, the one time I went back in the past month I heard a eurro shout to his mate F### the locals and continued doing short tacks and flying his kite low no matter what tack.

You whiteside are the same as Ned and Simon....come get your photo's and vid at everyone's inconvenience publish how great you are then f### off for your season of competition.

Sorry I don't tell you what you want to hear, but I'm over it. While I'm at it, would one of you pricks landing on the grass hurry up and get hit by a car because seeing kites in the tree everyday aint gonna get it banned in a hurry. We need guts and brains splat across the road to really send the message you brain dead f### wits. Why do the French and Italians seem to think they are invincible

Red Thumb away, couldn't give a fat rats clacker


Spaz out of the week award goes to........ SammyJ. Way to take the rant to the next level. There are a dozen other threads if you want to have a crack at the Euros. Maybe ease up on the personal attacks and chill the **** out.

SammyJ
SammyJ
WA
571 posts
WA, 571 posts
13 Feb 2011 10:34pm
ApatheticEnd said...

SammyJ said...

Nice riding, but no wonder our 2 spots are ruined for 4 months whilst we suffer your euro invasion. You naming spots in your description like this is bulls###, I've kited my local once in the past 10 weeks. I can't even get parking at my local now because you guy's park in our spot and not the Euro spot. You suck, the local schools suck and I'm voting for a ban at safety bay. It's absolute disgusting, the one time I went back in the past month I heard a eurro shout to his mate F### the locals and continued doing short tacks and flying his kite low no matter what tack.

You whiteside are the same as Ned and Simon....come get your photo's and vid at everyone's inconvenience publish how great you are then f### off for your season of competition.

Sorry I don't tell you what you want to hear, but I'm over it. While I'm at it, would one of you pricks landing on the grass hurry up and get hit by a car because seeing kites in the tree everyday aint gonna get it banned in a hurry. We need guts and brains splat across the road to really send the message you brain dead f### wits. Why do the French and Italians seem to think they are invincible

Red Thumb away, couldn't give a fat rats clacker


Spaz out of the week award goes to........ SammyJ. Way to take the rant to the next level. There are a dozen other threads if you want to have a crack at the Euros. Maybe ease up on the personal attacks and chill the **** out.




Whatever DR feelgood, I been kiting for a year and know everything.

Your not a local so you don't understand the frustrations we are going through currently, so keep you peace keeping feel good shizen to yourself
ApatheticEnd
ApatheticEnd
WA
995 posts
WA, 995 posts
13 Feb 2011 11:15pm
You don't really need to have been kiting for 10 years to know you're acting like a dick. And what exactly makes me "not a local"? I live here year round, have a home here, work here, pay a ton of tax here, and kite here. This is my home. I'm pretty sure that make me local. I put up with the same crowds and frustrations you do.

Oh, and yeah, nice vid Luke. Keep putting on a show.
ashton
ashton
WA
31 posts
WA, 31 posts
13 Feb 2011 11:28pm
SammyJ said...

Nice riding, but no wonder our 2 spots are ruined for 4 months whilst we suffer your euro invasion. You naming spots in your description like this is bulls###, I've kited my local once in the past 10 weeks. I can't even get parking at my local now because you guy's park in our spot and not the Euro spot. You suck, the local schools suck and I'm voting for a ban at safety bay. It's absolute disgusting, the one time I went back in the past month I heard a eurro shout to his mate F### the locals and continued doing short tacks and flying his kite low no matter what tack.

You whiteside are the same as Ned and Simon....come get your photo's and vid at everyone's inconvenience publish how great you are then f### off for your season of competition.

Sorry I don't tell you what you want to hear, but I'm over it. While I'm at it, would one of you pricks landing on the grass hurry up and get hit by a car because seeing kites in the tree everyday aint gonna get it banned in a hurry. We need guts and brains splat across the road to really send the message you brain dead f### wits. Why do the French and Italians seem to think they are invincible

Red Thumb away, couldn't give a fat rats clacker


Fk yeah well said!! It's all this pushing the sport business & selling locations online that has lead to everywhere being so dam crowded. I'm not one to carry on about safety..... but I must say many locations are getting freakin dangerous. It's a large area sport and it's ridiculous that we can have 50 - 60 kites in a 200 sq/mtr area. It's a cheap act to the locals if you name drop spots on here....anyspots, anywhere.. I can clearly say our local has been turned into a chaotic circus of bodies & kites (we don't even complain about windsurfers anymore, it's the kites and the dkhd visitors that will end up getting as banned from the spot).... and we've got idiots STILL selling it. Maybe we can jam 70 or 80 kites in the same area the following season or the next!! That would be a really cool achievement. Some certain hero even exposes maps of how to get there! Answer to that - $$$
If you don't know what I'm on about with the crowds... you'll see in a couple of years to come at your local spot. It'll soon be spoilt like surfing... And you can thank this person ..... and that person.....They're out there spreading the word now... locally, nationally & internationally. P*ss O#f!!! with the location dropping!!! Name & shame those who do it.
YNWA
YNWA
QLD
9 posts
QLD, 9 posts
14 Feb 2011 10:10am
Luke, Great vid, your riding is looking amazing.
Guys in WA , I understand that your pissed off with crowded spots, loads of Euros kiting in the season , etc. , but choose a different thread to voice your opinions.
I know luke from back at his local spot in the uk and he,s a good bloke who would not want to upset or irritate any local people in WA, enjoy the sport guys and stay safe.
jev7337
jev7337
QLD
460 posts
QLD, 460 posts
14 Feb 2011 10:28am
Thanks for the vid - great riding!
kitesurfjim
kitesurfjim
VIC
136 posts
VIC, 136 posts
14 Feb 2011 12:38pm
Luke epic Vid bud, looks like you boys are having a great time out there.

All the locals, get over it guys it's the same all over the world, we have to share our beaches back home too and for us the quietist time is winter too.

Name and shame those who mention the spots!!!
Guys Woodies, safety bay, the pond and others are all well known spots and certainly not secrets.
How about picking up a book once in a while, you'll find most areas have been published for years now.

YOU DONT OWN THE BEACHES,
If you are worried about certain activities threatening an impending ban then speak to those concerned and rectify not just get the fu$k off my home spot.
Localism at it's best.

You, me, we are all to blame for the rapid growth of kitesurfing by putting on a show every time you go out.

We are supposed to be the Whinging Pomes, but you lot are bitching and whinging enough for the lot of us.

gruezi
gruezi
WA
3464 posts
WA, 3464 posts
14 Feb 2011 12:45pm
I am 100% with Sammy on this one.

No manners, no respect.................we have all just met too many Euros who are simply a bunch of spoiled, cheap, disrespectful puncks.

We are all over it, but I can certainly understand how these puncks want to spend time at a beach rather than making something useful of themeselves back home.....Rovingeuro trash (RET), thats what they are called and come from EFL where life really bites because there is no space or freedom.

Soon they will all be leaving on a plane, but they'll be back in greater force next year, what to do?

That's right, I am a paying member of the Try and Love a Euro club.
rongroen
rongroen
WA
75 posts
WA, 75 posts
14 Feb 2011 1:04pm
A simple google search on kitesurfing in WA will return the waksa site and detailed descriptions of "your spot" - hardly seems like a secret has been revealed.



ashton
ashton
WA
31 posts
WA, 31 posts
14 Feb 2011 3:50pm
kitesurfjim said...

Luke epic Vid bud, looks like you boys are having a great time out there.

All the locals, get over it guys it's the same all over the world, we have to share our beaches back home too and for us the quietist time is winter too.

Name and shame those who mention the spots!!!
Guys *****, ****, **** and others are all well known spots and certainly not secrets.
How about picking up a book once in a while, you'll find most areas have been published for years now.

YOU DONT OWN THE BEACHES,
If you are worried about certain activities threatening an impending ban then speak to those concerned and rectify not just get the fu$k off my home spot.
Localism at it's best.

You, me, we are all to blame for the rapid growth of kitesurfing by putting on a show every time you go out.

We are supposed to be the Whinging Pomes, but you lot are bitching and whinging enough for the lot of us.




Yeah that's a good idea kitesurfjim... we'll take 4 months off work hanging out at the beaches trying to speak to all those contributing to get us banned indefinitely. Brilliant plan dude, we'll just speak to those concerned and rectify. We'll make friends with those who do short runs, cut people off, keep their kite low while being upwind, do 13 handpasses and crash their sht on people. We'll just speak to those and rectify those who sleep in the carparks, leave rubbish everywhere, poo where ever they like animals, launch kites where you're not meant to and have the worse attitudes on the water then we do on this forum now. Sorry but the feel good kite community spirit we used to know and luv doesn't live here anymore. Sad but true. Like SammyJ says ' It's disgusting'.... for many reasons.

To those who don't quite understand... Yeah, We definitely don't own the beaches or the spots! If you want I can type that 10 times!! We're just trying to protect it!! Stop it from being banned!! If possible stop it from being that over-crowded and dangerous then it already is! ... Go travel the world kiting and have a great time but show some respect and remember you're just visiting. Show some respect and reframe from going out your way advertise people's locations. We've got enough people coming through the kite schools and being drawn in by local retailers without people like supersaturated advertising our BS as the place to be for your next holiday.

Should we make up a website and target your best kitespot in Victoria as the place to be? Should we organise some comps there? Put some photo's up? Make a video called 'A day in Vic'? Start up another fkn kite school and make a business plan as to how many people we can push through each year? Should I rock up there in a wicked van and lay a nard in the carpark and leave rubbish everywhere?
Yeah we've got issues over here... fkn herds n herds of them.

Even a percentage of our own cool kids and strap-on hat, seat harness wearing crew who think they are great ambassadors to the sport are ruining it in front of us. Farout most them can't even see it. If you're not already saying 'where the F did all these people come from' or wondering why you're local spot has kitesurfing is under threat of being banned... you soon will be! in a few seasons to come pencil dks.
For the c**ks that respond against gruezi, sammyj and the rest of us. I know 'We don't own the beaches'!! Yes we've got issues!! And yes we're angry.... and we've got good reason to be.
ImaYinkle
ImaYinkle
WA
18 posts
WA, 18 posts
14 Feb 2011 4:15pm
Blaming Whiteside for mentioning Safety Bay, and Woodmans Point is pointless, childish and futile. Western Australia was well publicized as a top spot for kiteboarding to Euros years ago.

First off Kiteworldmag.com in the travel section; Perth is well sold as being one of few places between Nov-Feb. Safety Bay and Woodmans point get more than a mention here!!! Also Kiteworld release a free travel brochure every year with the mag, everything a Euro kiter needs to know about flat water kiting near Perth is explained there. The article also says locals are upset easily and retaliate by having a good moan on seabreeze

North kiteboarding is well known to test most of their kites and wave boards in the South-West. Sky Solbach (North's Chief Kite Tester) has based himself in WA, and has been interviewed on several occasions saying how great the kiting is here. Also North have released free DVD's/Webisodes in Europe with WA sessions featuring as a top spot for both waves and freestyle. (North are probably the most popular brand in Europe by the way).

I have also read countless articles regarding WA in many kiteboarding publications. Also, Dec-Feb (deep dark winter in europe) there are only two places in the world with conditions good enough to attract top level riders from Europe. Western Australia and South Africa. South Africa is pretty hardcore, with 35 knots being pretty normal, attracting riders such as Hadlow, Lenten and Langeree, year after year. However WA is much steadier, less gnarly and great for training.

Look at the fact that there are currently over 10 international riders from Europe here at the moment. They all write travel articles for various publications, including Spanish, French and Italian magazines. Some of these riders first wrote about WA over 4 years ago, so they must be coming back for a reason (the conditions here Rock!!)

The Horse bolted years ago, closing the stable door now won't change a thing!!! Blaming Whiteside for mentioning these spots on an Australian forum is the most stupid thing I've seen so far this year!!!!
rongroen
rongroen
WA
75 posts
WA, 75 posts
14 Feb 2011 4:36pm
The reality is kitesurfing is a ever increasingly popular sport and we live in a windy corner of the world.

Incessant bagging Euros or the odd kiter who might mentions that he had a good kite at a local beach isn't going to change that dynamic or the popularity of those spots. Angry rants over poor kiting ethics and lack of hygiene standard is unlikely to find the target audience in this forum.

Getting angry is understandable but not particularly useful. If we could channel this negative energy into workable solutions to rid our spots of undesirable activities, we all win.

Lets work on what we would like to see in the beach management plan. Might be easier than trying "self" management, with those who just won't listen.
the gibbo
the gibbo
WA
776 posts
WA, 776 posts
14 Feb 2011 5:52pm
lots of red flags and angry little babies aw, did mummy not buy your favorite dummy today

ha ha you guys are great, nice little vid euro dude
Jedibrad
Jedibrad
NSW
527 posts
NSW, 527 posts
14 Feb 2011 9:16pm
If anyone else has heard the whistles blowing from volcome house then u know how effective self regulation from the locals can be
rbl
rbl
WA
153 posts
rbl rbl
WA, 153 posts
14 Feb 2011 8:56pm
You euros bored or something no good wind hear in 2 week
And your talking yourself up. stop doing short tacks or I'll cut your lines
SammyJ
SammyJ
WA
571 posts
WA, 571 posts
14 Feb 2011 9:02pm
OK, I read some of the replies and have ascertained that some of you have inadvertently missed the point being made. I think people are focusing on the wrong things here, this is not a Personal thing it's a generalisation of those that take photo's and video.

I'll try to put it into Lehman terms for those that appear to be struggling.

Those people that take photo's, videos etc for their sponsors should try and do it with out impact on others and refrain from finding the need to put specific locations details down in your title/description.

My example from a year ago how a vid should be posted www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Kitesurfing/General/FUN-wave-vid/?SearchTerms=sammyj

This is common practice in the surfing world, but unfortunately kiters for whatever reason seem to think it's necessary to publish every little detail. I've made several movies and never name a location and when I post it, I ask readers if they know where it is to please not mention it. I believe that those that put in the hard yards and research and explore should be rewarded.

To say I'm childish and futile is absurd, I'm the only local proactive enough to start a Safety Bay group website to help promote safety and inform visitors of the guidelines set in place by local authorities. I've been through the whole approaching people at the beach, I've copped abuse from french and Italians you name it and had to turn away before things got out of hand.


Charl dv
Charl dv
WA
2485 posts
WA, 2485 posts
14 Feb 2011 9:24pm
holy **** this escalated and i didnt even get a say yet!

1. stop typing so many words make sentences shorter so its easier to read because **** me i dont want to read so many damn words.

2. the euro trash at the pond has been especially bad this year they are the rudest bunch of C * NTS, short tacking, turning around without even looking at what they are doing, flying past down wind with kites up high so you have to slow down and put urs up super high so you dont take them out. i've stopped kiting the pond this year soley because every time i've been there i've felt like coming off the water and planting my foot square in a euro's teeth.

3. Luke isn't that bad there, he's probably the only euro that's respectful and a general good bloke at the spot. sure i dont agree with him posting the names of the spots either and it pisses me off that that mark ding **** of a photographer wrote a whole damn article in that cock lover's online magazine about safeties woodies etc making it sound like the best place ever.

4. i like rbl we should be friends i got a nice hook knife

5. at least the euros at woodies have been pretty tops this year, i haven't had any problem with them getting in the way etc, except when those strap loving douchers crash and lose their boards then take all day to body drag back, get some boots you twangers and stop losing your boards. oh and those poleys that do the crazy speed runs without looking are a bunch off tossers.
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
14 Feb 2011 9:27pm
I feel for you WA guys, a week out there was enough to drive me mad. I guess you just need a bad season, or Ivan Malat or something to return.
Where's the brothers? get them down there cutting lines and evicting trouble makers and I'm sure things should be sweet again soon. Or you could just feed brad a beer, amp him up and tell him that he needs to move the euros to the choppy side haha.

p.s. Sounds like you just need to start running into people, do that a few times Sammy and they get the drift.
KnutH
KnutH
VIC
427 posts
VIC, 427 posts
15 Feb 2011 12:56am
I've been to Safety Bay two years ago, and the biggest fool that I witnessed was actually an instructor. Always liked to impress his students by jumping on the beach in gusty winds, 70% of the time he kited himself while students admired his amazing backrolls.
Once when he beach-jumped, a gust got the better of him so he slammed into the bushes, completely ripping the kite.
Maybe those Euros were trained by that guy..

Anyway, nice video!
NedWA
NedWA
WA
7 posts
WA, 7 posts
15 Feb 2011 12:13am
Ho Ho Ho loook at this little classic bit of a Seabreeze gem, no matter where you go you are garented to find a bit of agro here!

So what is the real deal here? is it naming the spots? is it the euro trash camping in the carpark? is it short tackers? or is it that in the summer alot of guys arrive who are better riders than you are and it makes you unhappy?

well the real deal is you guys are lucky to have sch amazing spots and you should be making the most of it! any guy who has half a brain can see that between 12-4 the pond will be packed and if you dont like it then dont go in at the "peak time". it doesnt get dark till 7-8 so the wind will still be there birthday boy.

We also hate euro junk, you get them everywhere so get used to it.

and i wouldnt call safety bay a secret spot, i think people know about it so you can stop worrying about that.

anyway im pretty busy looking for new cooler spots, ive found one in the bottom of africa and ive heard its pretty windy, also in egypt as i think its kicking off and a little known spot in brazil which i think gets a bit of wind aswell! but dont tell anyone!

Anyway...euro party at the pond! boom

ashton
ashton
WA
31 posts
WA, 31 posts
15 Feb 2011 12:47am
KnutH said...

I've been to Safety Bay two years ago, and the biggest fool that I witnessed was actually an instructor. Always liked to impress his students by jumping on the beach in gusty winds, 70% of the time he kited himself while students admired his amazing backrolls.
Once when he beach-jumped, a gust got the better of him so he slammed into the bushes, completely ripping the kite.
Maybe those Euros were trained by that guy..

Anyway, nice video!


Did this guy happen to have an orange rashie on and money hanging out his pockets when he was making a toss of himself?

Maybe one of his 'many' students might get the spot shut down before the Euro's do.
Charl dv
Charl dv
WA
2485 posts
WA, 2485 posts
15 Feb 2011 2:04am
NedWA said...

Ho Ho Ho loook at this little classic bit of a Seabreeze gem, no matter where you go you are garented to find a bit of agro here!

So what is the real deal here? is it naming the spots? is it the euro trash camping in the carpark? is it short tackers? or is it that in the summer alot of guys arrive who are better riders than you are and it makes you unhappy?

well the real deal is you guys are lucky to have sch amazing spots and you should be making the most of it! any guy who has half a brain can see that between 12-4 the pond will be packed and if you dont like it then dont go in at the "peak time". it doesnt get dark till 7-8 so the wind will still be there birthday boy.

We also hate euro junk, you get them everywhere so get used to it.

and i wouldnt call safety bay a secret spot, i think people know about it so you can stop worrying about that.

anyway im pretty busy looking for new cooler spots, ive found one in the bottom of africa and ive heard its pretty windy, also in egypt as i think its kicking off and a little known spot in brazil which i think gets a bit of wind aswell! but dont tell anyone!

Anyway...euro party at the pond! boom




haha neck up ya parrot.

problems are you wa surf clowns launching n landing on that grass area, other euro kooks doing it on the grass at the main road right near the power lines, busy road and trees. one of your kook mates already went flying into the side of a car in that carpark.

stupid short tackers that just snake and **** up the line up, cut infront of you then ride so ****ing slow you cant get enough speed to do a trick behind them.

stupid douches that just turn around smack in the middle of the pond without looking behind them and completely ruining someone lining up for a trick, the amount of times ive been half way through something to come out of a rotation and see some kook swining his kite towards mine forcing me to bail and pull my kite down to miss his is a ****ing joke.

then all those damn tourist dicks trying to learn / teach in the pond section is the worst, and you guys at the school should really start informing your traveling pole smoker buddies that they belong on the upwind side of the spit and to stop teaching in the pond section.

I'm yet to see these better riders you speak of too, all i seen so far are a bunch of lunch time merchants using fruit loops and doing kite twirls that are weak as piss. there has been one or two "good" riders there though but not many has come through that have been worth watching.

no one said safety bay is a secret spot but that doesn't mean we need it blatantly advertised over and over again so that more and more nut sacks show up and ruin the goodness down there.

the problem that truly lies here is that safety bay has already been stupidly close to being banned as it is and having all these ****ing blow ins come in and not even have any regard for the local rules set in place to keep the spot open and operating, just go out and do what they want when they want and not having a care in the world is going to get the spot banned. then what? you guys all **** off over to africa and start the process over there while we are stuck here with one less spot to ride. nah mate doesnt work like that.

and lastly to suggest the locals should go down later to miss crowds is just plain stupid, your saying that because there is such a influx of tourists that we should stay out of our local spot to avoid the crowding and come down at a later time is just a bit of a joke really.
djdojo
djdojo
VIC
1614 posts
VIC, 1614 posts
15 Feb 2011 1:46pm
Firstly, I sympathise with frustrated locals.

However, I'm going to respond to the initial post and say that I don't think the video is very good. The filming and editing are bland, song choice is meh, but most of all, the riding is ordinary.

Let me be clear, the vast majority of kiters, myself included, will never even attempt, let alone land most of the moves in the clip, but my understanding is that Mr Whiteside is a sponsored rider and aspiring pro, and therefore a different set of standards apply.

The riding in the clip is jerky. There is a lack of power, fluidity and grace. I would much rather watch slightly less technical moves pulled off with more power and style.

In an effort to be constructive I offer Luke this feedback: I'd like to see more extension (arms, torso and legs) on the raley component of all moves. If you don't extend fully it looks like you're in too much hurry to do the rotations. If you extend fully then pull into the rotations it's more graceful and dramatic. I'd also like to see larger range of movement in your legs on landing. Many of your landings look rigid (they lose you speed and endanger your knees) because you're not bending your legs very much and not timing the bend so as to soften the landing and maintain speed. This can be done with style and when it is it indicates a planned landing and control throughout the rotations.

On this front I really enjoyed Alex Pastor's recent WA vid and as ever, Hadlow sets the benchmark for power, smoothness and precision.

This is just an opinion. If it can trigger some learning then great, if not, please disregard it.

(Disclaimer: I'm a hack kiter, but I'm a professional at analysing high-performance movement)
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