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Spacemonkey!
Spacemonkey!
SA
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SA, 2288 posts
22 May 2006 5:43pm
Ok how about a mobe 7, oops sorry no one can do that in boots, my bad..

Jason Slezak doing anything in boots looks worse than most people doing anything in straps.
god
god
WA
28 posts
god god
WA, 28 posts
22 May 2006 4:15pm
him on a slider any one on the pkra on a slider oh i see he is bad
bitch
bitch
QLD
39 posts
QLD, 39 posts
22 May 2006 6:25pm
**** up dude. id like to see you put sum boots on. u prolly scared that u wont be able to jump as high. id say u even have a bar hangin in a tree in your back yard to practice pull ups on. thats progesive, but then when you see some one do a grabed 3 or sumthing 15 foot off the back of a wave with the kite on the water, that is **** and easy and people were doin that wen kiting first started.
ritous
ritous
WA
23 posts
WA, 23 posts
22 May 2006 4:35pm
hes right, bindings are better you bunch of geese strappers
oldschool
oldschool
NSW
13 posts
NSW, 13 posts
22 May 2006 6:55pm
How funny is it to see the usual boots crew sticking up for their own. I was at tannum and i have to say there was only 2 guys that really where doing some cool wake ****, and it wasn't cam or any local crew, soon as they put their kites low they went so low they hit the water and couldn't make ****.
As usual its unfournatly becoming a repeat at most comps with mates judging mates with boots.
I had left before the final but i was told That guy julian pulled a mobe5, slim and some other **** in the final and the guy that beat just did back2blind!!! Oh and he had boots on. It's bull****, if you get in the crew than you do well in the comps.
Boots look alright on sliders and kickers but thats a dead end part of the sport. They get banned from everywhere, take 2 long 2 set up, what a waste of time.
Yeh u boot guys keep doing your grab 3's that will get u along way.

terry
NumNutz
NumNutz
QLD
403 posts
QLD, 403 posts
22 May 2006 7:05pm
seams like some people dont enjoy their own riding or style and have a problem with others that are have'n fun but riding differently to them....i learnt in boots and then went to straps for years... and went back to boots.. took awhile to get used to boots again but love em and wouldnt go back...so the boots crew have all been round long enough to be able to do big boosts and pull ups and flat spins with hand dangles... we ride surfboards strapless aswell and dont give F### if your riding a canoe to macca's trays on each foot too an ironing board cause we've done it all before... loved it and had aball and now we're just riding boots cause we want too...Soo Chill out..
KiTe GrOm
KiTe GrOm
WA
31 posts
WA, 31 posts
22 May 2006 5:39pm
hey oldschool speak up man!! who was doing wake sh!t good? who couldn't make sh!t? the purpose of the comp was to progress the sport it was said before it started powered and kite low (boots or not didnt matter but it would help you ride powered) was where it was at so if you didnt like it dont go in it.
As for julian his kite was out to lunch he was doing pull up style not wakestyle, its like going to a surfng contest but lying down on your surfboard and claiming airs and barrel rolls then telling everyone they are gay because you didn't win.
this sport was heading in the right direction till 4 lines came along.
bitch
bitch
QLD
39 posts
QLD, 39 posts
22 May 2006 8:00pm
dude, do you know who judge the tannum comp. a bunch of older dudes from the club judge it, they werent mates of Alex Lewis Hughes or any of the other guys in the final except the local guys who didnt place well anyway. they said what the judgeing criteria was before the comp and they stuck to it which is the reason he won. he rode to the criteria and wat they were looking for. and seen as u werent there for the final i dont understand how u can say that when the riders put there kites low they crashed and didnt land.
Spacemonkey!
Spacemonkey!
SA
2288 posts
SA, 2288 posts
22 May 2006 8:34pm
quote:
Originally posted by bitch

**** up dude. id like to see you put sum boots on. u prolly scared that u wont be able to jump as high. id say u even have a bar hangin in a tree in your back yard to practice pull ups on. thats progesive, but then when you see some one do a grabed 3 or sumthing 15 foot off the back of a wave with the kite on the water, that is **** and easy and people were doin that wen kiting first started.



For your info Cam i have nothing against people who ride bindings or jason slezak for that matter, hell he is probably better than me. If you read my arguements properly you would see the thing i am debating is the fact that bindings make you ride better or make commit more. I use the example of the PKRA guys who in my opinion are miles ahead of the rest and they all ride straps, obviously you don't rate them and thats your opinion. Some people just arent impressed with 3's anymore, even if the kite is undewater for f1cks sake.

I'm all for doing tricks with the kite as low as possible and as powered as you can possibly do them. That is definately where the sport is headed. But the topic is not debating who is better than who, it is "Boots or Straps" and i'm saying both (it doesn't matter) because it is possible to do tricks with your kite heaps low and hell powered and with straps or boots.
likuid
likuid
QLD
330 posts
QLD, 330 posts
22 May 2006 9:26pm
i can do triple kabackmobebler with 1080 handstand on the board while rotating my board 2046 degrees in a board off manuver with boots..
and because of that. i win.
KiTe GrOm
KiTe GrOm
WA
31 posts
WA, 31 posts
22 May 2006 7:33pm
wrong!!!

boots do make you commit more and ride more powered for sure, there is more concequence when you stuff up because you have to ride more powered and go faster to pop.
and whats all this sh!t about people can only do grabs and 3s with boots? you obviously haven't watched anyone good out freeriding.

www.seabreeze.com.au/gallery/gallery.asp?imageid=1893
tell me that isnt sick? cam mid 7 bit more consequence than a mobe 1650 with your kite out to lunch id say.

straps have been cancelled.
Spacemonkey!
Spacemonkey!
SA
2288 posts
SA, 2288 posts
22 May 2006 9:07pm
nice pic indeed. the point is that same move is possible in straps. Have you got a sequence.
KiTe GrOm
KiTe GrOm
WA
31 posts
WA, 31 posts
22 May 2006 7:40pm
yeah it is possible to attempt in straps just with negative style and i somehow doubt anyone would land that in straps with thier kite that low without breaking an ankle.
nah man i only got the one pic off a mate maybe there will be some footage just have to wait and see.
Kitegrom
Kitegrom
VIC
98 posts
VIC, 98 posts
22 May 2006 9:41pm
quote:
i can do triple kabackmobebler with 1080 handstand on the board while rotating my board 2046 degrees in a board off manuver with boots..
and because of that. i win.


Word! And Kitegrom i dont do boardoffs..i am all the way hardcore wake style like you probably are. Respect.. Ah sh#t i cant lie when i first started i thought boardoffs were the bomb yes its a dark history we all probably share. But the past is the past.

Hey yeah my 2 cents i saw ruben lenton doing some crazy sh#t i neva seen before ohhhh lawdy mamma in straps!
carbine
carbine
WA
1450 posts
WA, 1450 posts
22 May 2006 7:43pm
quote:
Originally posted by KiTe GrOm

wrong!!!

boots do make you commit more and ride more powered for sure, there is more concequence when you stuff up because you have to ride more powered and go faster to pop.




wtf!, even if it were true its retarded.

Ok im gonna start riding around dragging a tyre so i have to ride more powered.

Making something harder doesnt mean its better, it means its harder. Bindings are used in wakeboarding coz u need the support and lock, in kiting the landings arent even close to the same level. Why make it harder when its not required.



Spacemonkey!
Spacemonkey!
SA
2288 posts
SA, 2288 posts
22 May 2006 9:16pm
How the heel is being locked in bindings gonna stop you for breaking your ankle dude? lol. Kite grom reveal your true identity dammit [}:)] You could for sure land that in straps IMO. Now twisting your ankle might be a slightly different story but both are possible to be landed. If people can land massive kiteloops in straps why not that? I will have to agree to disagree unless you got anyithing more to add to the discussion.
KiTe GrOm
KiTe GrOm
WA
31 posts
WA, 31 posts
22 May 2006 7:48pm
landings are never going to be hard when your kite is out to lunch thats why you dont need bindings. for people pushing it with their kite low and powered they need just as much support as wakeboarders do.
carbine
carbine
WA
1450 posts
WA, 1450 posts
22 May 2006 7:49pm
btw tannum 14knot kiters.

dont talk commitment. Going out underpowered and doing some lame ass grabed railey a foot off the water is not commitment.

Where we come from a legit loop (read kite level or below you) in 25knots is actual commitment, (read consequence if u **** up).
KiTe GrOm
KiTe GrOm
WA
31 posts
WA, 31 posts
22 May 2006 7:51pm
if you look at his lines and how they are slack he is pretty much falling out of the sky, if you had straps with negitive support and hold you are just gonna get bounced out or twist an ankle trying, why use straps when you got bindings there to do a way better job.
Spacemonkey!
Spacemonkey!
SA
2288 posts
SA, 2288 posts
22 May 2006 9:28pm
Kitegrom if hes riding bindings it is very true he won't twist his ankle but that doesnt automatically negate the forces, the next place of rotation is the knee, so if indeed he was gonna **** his ankle he has a good chance of ****ing his knee instead if indeed is the case, which it is not. Because the lines are slack (lots of commitment their ) which is respect tho cause its a 7, the main forces will be straight down which is where the foot pad cushions you which is the same with bindings as with straps.

anyway let us know if you have some footage will be keen to see it.
kitefriend
kitefriend
NSW
147 posts
NSW, 147 posts
22 May 2006 10:06pm
hello fellow nerds looks like your having a little nerdathon here just like to add my 2 cents. sure his ankle wont **** up but the grom never said his knees wouldn't. id say there would have to be a fair level of commitment there to be that high with kite that low without looping it. by the way bindings have a sh!tload more padding than straps thats why they use em, by the sounds of things id say you have never tried em before.
Simon.
Simon.
WA
66 posts
WA, 66 posts
22 May 2006 9:07pm
Boots = less time splashing around trying to find your board, simple.
congo abrezio
congo abrezio
NT
285 posts
NT, 285 posts
23 May 2006 8:21am
i have been kiting for about 6 months and during that time reading this site this is what i have picked up.

paul j,spacemonkey,old school etc. go bury urself in a endless pit of fire and never talk so much **** on this site again!! u think ur the kings of kiting and know everything and if someones not doing what u like they're classified(****). wake up to urself i bet in real life if u met any of these people on here u would run away crying and hide under ur bed. people choose to ride however or whatever they like. some people have more fun on things that others might not like so much eg. bindings or straps, but that doesnt mean they r ****, we may be behind in australia but thats because of **** talkers like yourselves.
Dan Jones
Dan Jones
WA
101 posts
WA, 101 posts
23 May 2006 7:07am
what ya got to say to that pauly
paul.j
paul.j
QLD
3381 posts
QLD, 3381 posts
23 May 2006 10:13am
Hey Congo,
You obviously have never meet me before. All the boots crew know me and don't get me wrong they are mates of mine. They all know where i stand on boots. Yes i give them heaps of ****, always have and always will it's just me.
I say it like it is not hiding behind a gay forum name, but i actually say it like it is to there faces aswell. They all know me as you clearly u do not.
People that know me know my attitude and that i am always stirring **** and running amuck.
Get a sense of humour why don't you.
If you are going to carins kite week Please be sure to come and introduce yourself to me if you see me around. I am a real frendily guy!!!

Oh YEAH, BOOTS ARE FOR ****!!!!
Paul.j
Spacemonkey!
Spacemonkey!
SA
2288 posts
SA, 2288 posts
23 May 2006 10:05am
Congo wtf, i said its fine to ride boots ROFL, i even purchased some off ebay a couple of months ago... Dude learn to read all i am debating is that the choice is purely personal preference because they both can do the same job. Lol. So next time get it right dickweed before accusing me of thinking im the king of kiting when im clearly not, i will be the first to admit im ****.
Happy
Happy
NSW
98 posts
NSW, 98 posts
23 May 2006 2:47pm
paul . j is gay ill tell him that to his face im sure he will face the fact one day that boots are clearly cooler than him and boots cant think lol. plz dont brake my leg paul
sleek1
sleek1
VIC
672 posts
VIC, 672 posts
24 May 2006 8:07am
if boots are the s h i t then why doesnt anyone buy mine? check out for sale east coast
hookworm
hookworm
VIC
600 posts
VIC, 600 posts
24 May 2006 2:13pm
because i told everyone how hairy your feet are
braids
braids
26 posts
26 posts
24 May 2006 1:59pm
quote:
Originally posted by kiterdan

It sounds as if kite grom idolizes anyone who has had their name mentioned in kiteboarder mag. Chances are he's from Tannum. I hear theyre a little inbred over there.

Get over it dude...stop trying to act like a little wakeboarder wannabe...
"Man, he's sickas bro! CHeckit, he's wearing boots! Thats the latest **** around G, Im gonna get some!"
Little wake call for you mate...I was looking through one of the earlier issues of kiteboarder mag and there is a fantastic pic of Bill Crang, editor of kiteboarder mag, doing a 'one-footer'. It comes around full circle...I suppose in 2 years time youre going to be bugging your mum to buy you some kite pants when they're the 'in' thing.

Wes' side dog!

For the record, I thought this months issue of kiteboarder is the best so far...keep it up



You saw Bill doin a board off ages ago. Since then the sport has progressed but people like you are stuck in some lame timewarp, still riding straps and doing board offs, but thats cool, do what ya want, just dont rip on people who are into wakestyle. Go ride your style, let that talk for you and lets see who comes off on top.

As for people baggin' the guys who misspell or aren't as learned as others, who the hell cares? Everyone has an opinion and it doesn't matter if they use slang or can't spell, doesn't make their views any less valid than your own. Kiteboarding is a sport, not a bloody English thesis so wake up to yourselves.
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