Beginners at Lucky Bay

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PaulG
PaulG
WA
92 posts
WA, 92 posts
11 Nov 2004 2:33pm
It's great to see so many people taking up the sport. I ride there alot because it's just down the road from where I live and I've noticed a considerable increase in new starters this year.

In the interest of Safety can I ask beginners to stay just down wind of the experienced riders (Say 200m) so that we have a clear entry exit point on the beach without having to weave through 4 or 5 kites.

Also if anyone needs any help please feel free to ask. I fly a Blue Airush Lift or a Red Flow.

Paul
Snap Shot
Snap Shot
WA
11 posts
WA, 11 posts
14 Nov 2004 12:12am
Yeah, I agree with this. Saturday (my first, and last time there), I saw like 5 or 6 kits get slammed down straight into the water, one nearly taking a windsufer out. I'll be damned if thats me that mad dog slaps on the head.

Please, stay down wind from the experienced. Its the right, and courteous thing to do.
peco
peco
WA
29 posts
WA, 29 posts
14 Nov 2004 11:03am
We need to talk to the kiters on the beach. The forum is great but a great deal of people don't read these strings. I was at Lucky Bay Saturday and didn't say a word to the body dragging people even though I was getting annoyed. We have to police ourselves a bit everywhere we kite, remember some basic right of way issues, starboard tack, upwind and downwind kite rules of thumb. I'm guilty of not making the change as much as the beginners are guilty of not having developed their situational awareness yet.
poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
WA, 9106 posts
14 Nov 2004 9:31pm
i reckon all the newbie car drivers shouldnt drive on the roads i live near or use, in fact i'd like them to stay off the roads altogether.

Hey bro, the river is for us all, it gets packed on the weekends, thats just the way it is in the city. Sure some people wield their kites around a little more erratically than others due to their limited skills and understanding but that doesnt give you the right to dictate where they kite in a particular spot.

My suggestion would be perhaps the "advanced riders" should head off to an "advanced spot"

Oh and by the way where did you learn?
kk
kk
WA
953 posts
kk kk
WA, 953 posts
14 Nov 2004 10:22pm
Yeah we all had to learn once and I know I hated anyone downwind of me.. Can remember thinking they must be mad to go there? Anything could happen with me kookin out up wind of them.

Oh and learner drivers need a "L" plate and an instructor with them at all times and aren't allowed on the freeway till they prove themselves..

It's just plain common sense to stay downwind as a beginner as your way more likely to get dragged that way anyways. At the same time experienced kiters anywhere near a learner tend to spook them so stay upwind and show off to the other experienced kiters leave the newbies alone
carbine
carbine
WA
1450 posts
WA, 1450 posts
14 Nov 2004 10:42pm
look the river is a big area. If your good you can head off upwind out towards the sand bar where the windsurfers go. On the other side of that, is nice flat shallow water. Or you can sail the gap between point walter and dalkeith.
Or you can sail out of majestic and go between there and pelican point, once you clear majestic point winds good, in the bay its a bit flukey.

Honestly if your "advanced" it shouldn't bother you, there are plenty of other places with better wind and flatter water.

PaulG
PaulG
WA
92 posts
WA, 92 posts
15 Nov 2004 3:00pm
Guys, I and many others kite at Lucky bay because its Local. Agree that there is room upwind and that's where I was on Sunday. Nice and flat by the way but shallow so be careful.

However if I did decide to ride straight out from the beach I'd have 3 or so guys/girls up wind of me at any one time dragging, crashing etc to look out for.

Given that there is a good 1500 metres of beach downwind surely it's not too much to ask, for beginners to start a little further down the beach rather than risk an incident. It's no different to learner drivers not being permitted on the Freeway is it?

Any argument that I should be experienced enough to avoid beginners or that beginners have an equal right to use the entire Bay is absolute rubbish. Every kiter should know that Safety is priority one on the water so to reiterate what I said in my first post, all beginners should stay down wind of the main drag.

By the way Mike, I learnt at Lucky bay and kept well clear of the experienced riders. I only ventured up to the top when I could hold my own.

Would like to hear what other regulars think.

HungLong
HungLong
WA
859 posts
WA, 859 posts
15 Nov 2004 3:50pm
Hey I learnt at luckybay four years ago and its a great place to laydown your skills. Now I only hit the spot if I'm up for a quick session and cant be bother'd driving to woodies.

Most of the guys I have ridden with at luckbay are experienced kiters and we tend to keep our line on a norwest run from the main beach. The newbies usually drift downwind of that run as they cant hold their lines. Never realy had a problem with newbies getting in the way, if you consider yourself a good rider this should not bother you as you should be able to spot riders and cruise up wind out of danger of them. I must admit most of the guys I have ridden there with, we all like to show off right in the main beach area.

The only thing at luckbay that realy pisses me off is the lack of courtesy shown when a rider is comming in and wishes to land his/her kite. I stood in the water one day (with kite low over water) while a rider upwind of me was attepting to land his kite. I saw three guys ****ing around acting as thow they were pro's on the beach to their friends and not one of them could kite very well and not one of them offered to help this guy out untill they were yelled at.

The rate at which new comers to the sport are flocking down to the water ways is amazing, however if the spot is your local then I think you DO NOT have the right to say who or what can go where but you do have the responcibility to advise newbies of the rules of the spot...

Remember it's not your personal spot but it is your responcibility to keep your local open and freindly...Too many guys think they own a spot just cause they kite there regularly. You dont but you do have a moral obligation to keep the pease and show newcommers the rules of the spot...

If you've never dropped your kite, your not trying hard enough !
To hear your knee go POP ruins a kite trip !
Sucide leash's and onshore conditions are a interesting combination !
Broken ribs SUCK !
poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
WA, 9106 posts
15 Nov 2004 4:15pm
a well balanced verse.
Couldnt agree more hung low.


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