Bow Kite - Knots on Lines

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mg77777
mg77777
12 posts
12 posts
26 Aug 2007 7:29am
Hi all

I started learning at the end of last summer and have forgotten the rules regarding attaching lines to the knots on the front/back lines of my bow kite.

My question:
My front/back lines on the kite have knots at different spacing intervals. Which knots on the kite should I attach my lines on front/back lines to achieve maximum or minimum power.

Any help much appreciated
Cheers
youngbull
youngbull
QLD
826 posts
QLD, 826 posts
26 Aug 2007 10:12am
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dave......
dave......
WA
2119 posts
WA, 2119 posts
26 Aug 2007 12:26pm
generally bow style kites have knots on the bridle for the back lines. the knot closest to the kite will sheet it in more (more power). When you set your kite up again for the first time, possibly ask someone around you just to check it!
NSW, 4382 posts
26 Aug 2007 3:22pm
The knots on the bridles, or on the pigtails connected to your lines on bow style kites really are quite obsolete.
The reason is that there is a huge amount of trim range available at the bar, and with the trim strap/cleat.
The extra inch you gain at the kite makes little difference, except in extremely strong winds (when if you need the extra inch, you should be on a smaller kite) or in light winds.
The extra inch really only makes a difference to the girls, so I'm told, I think one of my sons mates wrote a song about it, or maybe it was a video??

Just connect all 4 lines to the middle knots, thats what I do, I never use the different knots (even on C kites).

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve
stamp
stamp
QLD
2800 posts
QLD, 2800 posts
26 Aug 2007 3:43pm
once you get to know your kite the knots are not obsolete at all; altering the settings makes a huge difference to the way the kite trims and turns in different wind strengths
Bigwavedave
Bigwavedave
QLD
2057 posts
QLD, 2057 posts
26 Aug 2007 6:52pm
Instruction Manuals are available on most brand websites.
If you can't work it out, seriously consider another lesson.
user
user
WA
1140 posts
WA, 1140 posts
26 Aug 2007 8:14pm
Just connect to the midle knot,or at least the second one from the end.

Kitepower is right. There is no need to change knots.it does not really do anything.
Its a throwback to the early two line kites,they had some adjustment there,but that was all.
stamp
stamp
QLD
2800 posts
QLD, 2800 posts
27 Aug 2007 12:04pm
quote:
Originally posted by user

Ju
Its a throwback to the early two line kites,they had some adjustment there,but that was all.


how does that work? if you only have 2 lines what is the point of changing the lengths?
NSW, 4382 posts
27 Aug 2007 12:23pm
quote:
Originally posted by stamp

once you get to know your kite the knots are not obsolete at all; altering the settings makes a huge difference to the way the kite trims and turns in different wind strengths



Your post should read "makes a very minor difference (or zero difference)", if you can't understand why, lets start another thread on that?

The only difference it can make is to trim, turning has nothing to do with the knots being referred to.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve

Bigwavedave
Bigwavedave
QLD
2057 posts
QLD, 2057 posts
27 Aug 2007 12:32pm
I agree with Steve. Using different knots only alters the length of the back lines, which is really the same as adjusting the depower strap/rope on the front lines. On bow kites, the distance you can sheet in and out is huge. Using a different knot would only be noticable when the front lines are at their longest and you want to sheet in more. Using the top knot would give you an extra inch or so.
peanuticus
peanuticus
NSW
341 posts
NSW, 341 posts
28 Aug 2007 10:58am
if you have short arms use the back knots furthest away from the kite, if you have long arms like a monkey you can use the ones closest to the kite. all it does these days is move the bar closer or further away to you for a specific trim point.
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