It was obviously put in with best intentions, but without the pvc covering I agree it should be removed for safety's sake

Is a 'hassard' something like a hazard?

if you hit the star picket ,i will give you a dollar for a lotto ticket,its a one in a million hit . and if the maritime had any brains they would put a isolated danger marker there,,,,,, its kiter that kite near these rock ,that gives the public a picture that kiting is a dangerous sport so if you hit these rocks or markers then stay away from there ,,,,,,dumbass

since when is a star picket an isolated danger marker. Not knowing the beach I would prefer to hit a rock than land on a star picket.

Originally it sounds like it was a thoughtful idea to inform others of the reef; probably not the best way of doing it though. Most locals I hope would inform others of the reef to those whom are new to the area... thus deeming the marker a possible hazard!? I am uncertain as I have not seen it.

However, that means that the majority of Wello should have "metal star picket /PVC tube and red float" placed in the ground too!

you guys have obviously never been to Brighton, maybe you should come and kite here before you speak, if only we were as foolish as you believe.

I'd imagine a star picket would rust quite fast if left there, not the best thing to have sticking out of the sand.

Hi Brett,

The rule of thumb we have been using since day one at Brighton Beach Qld with regards to the small reef offshore from the northern boundary of the Eventide Nursing Home is, once you see the rock seawall change to concrete you are getting very close to the beginning of the reef so time to change direction asap.See graphic below





Seqka has a location write up on their site
http://seqka.com/joomla4/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=56&Itemid=75

Quote from the site,

"This is a great beach for a novice kite surfer because of its shallow flat water and large area but kite surfers should be aware of a reef situated offshore from the Eventide Nursing Home Brighton. It is not visable during high tide and kiters should ask locals where the reef is situated. Do not kite over this reef"

I hope this helps

Cheers
Ian

elizabethb said...

terryzarmzof said...

you guys have obviously never been to Brighton, maybe you should come and kite here before you speak, if only we were as foolish as you believe.

I kited there for a decent 1.5 years

terryzarmzof said...

how about 100 square meters of razor sharp rocks 50mm under the surface of murky water....ask the guys who are at home now bathing in betadine and nursing broken arms from hitting the reef what they would prefer, not to mention the cost from rippped kites.

Obviously no common sense prevailed hey...!? So you obviously are saying you kite in 5cm of water!?
That is obviously stupid... Dare we cover kiting safety? Checking out the local area before you kite there, ask the locals, look on low tide, GOOGLE it, ANYTHING.... AND if you KNOW it is there, just AVOID IT!!!! Make a mental note on its location.

Nokins identified it perfectly for you!

the nature of a reef is that it protrudes above the surrounding territory so the water would be deeper than 5cm if you think about it. and we arent talking about me personally its the 40 or so visitors on a weekend . They arent as perfect as you and sometimes they may not realize exactly where it is if they are struggling to get upwind in a SE, especially if they dont have a laptop on them. sometimes in real life humans err, but if the thing is marked its easy to see for everyone. Come on down and have a kite, just dont make an error and hit the reef, oh i forgot you have googled it so you will be safe.

terryzarmzof said...

the nature of a reef is that it protrudes above the surrounding territory so the water would be deeper than 5cm if you think about it. and we arent talking about me personally its the 40 or so visitors on a weekend . They arent as perfect as you and sometimes they may not realize exactly where it is if they are struggling to get upwind in a SE, especially if they dont have a laptop on them. sometimes in real life humans err, but if the thing is marked its easy to see for everyone. Come on down and have a kite, just dont make an error and hit the reef, oh i forgot you have googled it so you will be safe.

Bit of underlying anger there? Relax, I never said I was err "perfect" but any kiter with brains would ask the locals, look around for themselves or ask one of their mates whose been there before.
You're saying 40 visitors don't know its there!?... Yeahhh sure thing.

When you have kilometers of water from Brighton to The Pool, just stay away from the reef area!?
Now everyone on SB knows, and you can use this information to inform every visitor to Brighton on the weekends that the reef is there. lol

You guys are kind of missing the point,the place is getting very busy , visitors, new people learning and then the regulars , One a good day you will get 50 kites in the one little area ,if the tide is even half way in, 3/4 of these people would not have a clew the reef is there, alot of people don't want to seem to spread out ,up towards the pool( maybe they need to learn to sail upwind). I've already had 3 tangle up's this season alone ( none of which were my fault,,,,some of you guys need to learn your port and starboard rules.heck is only the first and most important rule of sailing internationally.) With so many new people/vistors combined with all the traffic on the water some times you don't get time to line up 2 rock grions and try and estimate where the reef is ,So a couple of plastic covered pipes is a easy sensible solution to the problem,the intension was good ,only no one told the tree hugging hippy ****ter who keeps pulling the conduit off the star pickets......

The water is merky , in a foot of water you won't see the bottom ,yes you can be hooting along in a couple of feet of water and come to the reef and it's 3 inches below the water with no warning of the reef ,,if you are lucky yes you will get across ,if you fall off ,or crash ,you screwed ,it's like a huge cheese grater ..

recently that reef has claimed alot of gear ( kites and boards ) and probley a couple of square meters of flesh and not too mention some broken bones....

If you want to use your failsafe method of lineing up this rock wall with that point on Redcliffe about however far off the shore, the markers would not have affected you as the markers were right on the reef so by your own admission you should not have been there anyway.....

If you want to winge catch the mofo who keeps stealin the plastic off the pickets and bash it up their ass... [}:)]

Another peculiarity of putting steel and plastic markers in the water is, that people seem to be attracted to them, like cars are attracted to lone trees on the side of a country road! The problem is you tend to go where you look, so if you get fixated on a picket in the water, there's a fair chance you will end up wrapping yourself around it.

We have a reef at Brighton Kitebeach in Melbourne, and no-one is putting pickets out on that. You have to know your local area... or ask others if you don't.

rabble rabble rabble rabble......

Kurt Savage said...


I would never go to a spot and kite without asking anyone what to look out for and what the local points of note are.

All they told me was 'don't rig on the grass'...

I'm sorry, but placing astar picket is just wrong. Get whacked by something natural is your own fault (not checking with locals). Getting whacked by something someone else put there is preventable by not placing it as a hazard in the first place. Star picket could kill you. Rocks can do some damage but unlikely to kill.