Buy Kites from Singapore?

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justin_hannan
justin_hannan
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9 Aug 2006 9:42pm
I have heard that Singapore is a great place to buy new kites from at a real good price? Is this true? And if so, do you know of any good stores to buy from there? How much cheaper do you think it would be?
Soonee
Soonee
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9 Aug 2006 9:50pm
I looked at that but what do you expect froma country where kiting is banned, and everything in Malaysia 2km away is half the price. SINGAPORE IS EXPENSIVE compared to malaysia.

There are only 3 or 4 guys selling out of their cars over at Johor Bahru essentially, no real kite industry
Kitehard
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9 Aug 2006 8:18pm
Hey Justin,

Problem wityh buying a kite from overseas is that if you have problems like bladder replacement or warranty issues or need any other type of back up service, don't expect the local importer to be overly helpful. You also must factor in exchange rate, import duty etc etc. Do the math!

They will probably tell you to take it back to where you bought it from, which can be a real pain. Support your local dealer here in Oz. That way it supports the Australian scene. Importers and shops will only have money to put towards prizes and stuff if we buy from them and support our local industry.

Do as you will but keep it in mind.

Have a windy day,

greenleader
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9 Aug 2006 10:20pm
it's probably a good place for suckee suck at cheap prices!
marc
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9 Aug 2006 8:28pm
[it's probably a good place for suckee suck at cheap prices!
]

great reply !!!!

having spent a few month in asia,
it makes me very sad when people think like that.
if ever you could think that these girls have no other choice
than taking care of those ugly white males with no morals
what if your sister or mom would have no other choices too ....

cheers

marc-a.
marc
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9 Aug 2006 8:33pm
but thailand is a good place to buy and bali too.

just make sure that they have stock before you go there.

usually the price can be 1/3 cheaper.

specially great if you go there for holidays during nov-march
because the wind is nice.

but again the warranty could be tricky...... but nothing to worry too much.

marc-a.
greenleader
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9 Aug 2006 11:42pm
maybe ask your local retailer for goodee price marc!
and explain 'special discount' you get in asia "home of special price mister"

you might just get a good price.

warranty goodee in oz, fella
gruezi
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9 Aug 2006 11:00pm
Buy local for support....but hey, if you like to shop, why not pick up a bargain. I friggen hate shopping.
kiterdude
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10 Aug 2006 11:15am
Maybe you should support your local shop, if everyone "saved a couple of bucks" buy buying offshore there would be no shops ie no service,no info, no good.Ive been kiting for over 6 years and have not seen anyone save big dollars from buying o.s. Support your local shop-most of the shops I know need all the support they can get.
carbine
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10 Aug 2006 10:24am
quote:
Originally posted by kiterdude

Maybe you should support your local shop, if everyone "saved a couple of bucks" buy buying offshore there would be no shops ie no service,no info, no good.Ive been kiting for over 6 years and have not seen anyone save big dollars from buying o.s. Support your local shop-most of the shops I know need all the support they can get.




I would rather save my charity for people who actually need it e.g. starving kids in ethiopia.
cwamit
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10 Aug 2006 10:52am
Good you mentioned starving kids because this month at world vision is the 10 000 appeal www.worldvision.com.au/ for less than a block of fosters a month you can pay for a kids education and at least one feed a day plus medical expenses.

Dont think it will benefit you? - once the Chinese living standards increase were going to need other poor but adequately educated countries to build the kites to keep them cheap.
realplayer
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10 Aug 2006 4:18pm
what about hongkong is there a chance for bargains there?
windslave
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10 Aug 2006 4:39pm
Attention all you bargain hunter kiters.

I have lots of current and last years model C and bow kites pre loved in the store that are just about to fly themselfs out the door.

Come in and see me to get the best deal in South East Asia!

With all pre loved kites comes a shop good will waranty that lasts a very long time!Also a free set up and tips lesson if needed.

If some of you are behind in your savings and dont want to miss out of the start of summer I am open to the Idea of a payment plan.

How much more supportive do I need to be to get your buissnes?

Come and see me at Kite Action Caloundra.

Summer is coming are you ready?

Luke.

marc
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10 Aug 2006 4:15pm
hello,

of course i can see the point of all the shops in australia but guys, how many people will really buy outside ..... a few only !
well, it makes sense if i take lessons in thailand and they sell the kites i am looking for at 30 % discount that i will grab this bargain.
so, you can also say to people to stay in australia for holidays to save the economy ......
i don't think australia has a bad economy at the moment and it makes me tick a little when shops cry poor all the time.
Best kills the shops, buying outside kill the shops ..... always the same lyrics.
well, you cannot blame people to try to save some money sometimes.
and what about us european who spend more time kiting in australia than europe for example. where should we buy our kites ?
in europe to preserve the economy and then if we have a problem in oz,
what do we do ?
kites have a international warranty because people move around.

marc-a.
powersails
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11 Aug 2006 10:43am
I'll keep that in mind when I'm trying to sell your crap windsurfing gear that you have on consignment in my shop here in Oz.
mUTHA
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11 Aug 2006 10:49am
the way i see it is if you support your local bloke hel support you.
even if it means that few extra bucks for that you know what your gettin, warranty, and maybe evn a new mate...

and im sure that the local guys are more than willin to negotiate prices and payment plans if needed

carbine
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11 Aug 2006 11:32am
^^ buying friends.


What an awesome idea
BrisKites
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11 Aug 2006 1:41pm
quote:
Originally posted by marc

hello,

of course i can see the point of all the shops in australia but guys, how many people will really buy outside ..... a few only !
well, it makes sense if i take lessons in thailand and they sell the kites i am looking for at 30 % discount that i will grab this bargain.
so, you can also say to people to stay in australia for holidays to save the economy ......
i don't think australia has a bad economy at the moment and it makes me tick a little when shops cry poor all the time.
Best kills the shops, buying outside kill the shops ..... always the same lyrics.
well, you cannot blame people to try to save some money sometimes.
and what about us european who spend more time kiting in australia than europe for example. where should we buy our kites ?
in europe to preserve the economy and then if we have a problem in oz,
what do we do ?
kites have a international warranty because people move around.

marc-a.




I'm sorry Marc but that post just shows to me that you are totally out of touch with reality and no, kites do not come with an international warranty.
brooksy
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11 Aug 2006 12:23pm
I think everyone's forgotten about the common man like me who PAYS for his kites. If I can save a couple of hundred then I'll save it 'cos that means I can put that to another piece of kit or a kite trip or something. If my local guy is a few dollars, even a hundred $ more then I might still go with him if he's a good shop, helpful, warranty etc.

Guys like me spend more $ in total than anyone other group of kites, and at $1500 plus for a kite I want to save money and get quality service! So if it's a little more and i GET quality service I don't mind, but if it's $200 or $300 cheaper, sorry it's money I can spend elsewhere. On my quiver, that's $500 and that's a surfboard or week long kite trip!

I'd like to keep going to my local guy, but in these days with the net and ease of travel you are competing globally on price, it's quality and customer service where a local guy can seal the deal.
realplayer
realplayer
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11 Aug 2006 3:26pm
guys can we please try n stay on topic here, im a 17yr kid i really wouldnt care less about the keeping up the local economy im just trying to find out how much cheaper it would be to get kites in these places and keep in mind these kites aren't cheap and even more so its alot harder to get this sorta cash as someone my age so id be looking for the best deal possible
stamp
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11 Aug 2006 7:26pm
realplayer; i dont think anyone has gone off topic here mate
ThreadJacker
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11 Aug 2006 6:13pm
quote:
im a 17yr kid i really wouldnt care less about the keeping up the local economy


Unless the kites are 1/2 price...why bother, after you pay for postage/insurance/gst/handling fees and import duty....and then run the risk of it being a scam, and you loss all your money.... the local kite stores need to survive, where else would go to demo new gear, drop in a grab that spare part that you need on the way to the beach, get local info etc etc. Not giving a s--t about the local economy from someone who's, i expect, parents buy their kites for them...is just poor form...one day you might grow up, and want a job, but there aren't any because that job you really wanted at the call center is now done in India....
I'm all for saving a buck on gear, and have imported gear(not kiting...snowboarding/mtn biking) from overseas where it can be nearly 1/2 price..and/or not sold in OZ..I don't feel so bad about it, as those stores turn over a lot more of these products to a larger market than kitestores do to kiters..
Think about it....if no one buys kites here.....no kite stores.....no support....no demos.....and for that one store that does stay open.....prices increase to cover the fact that they don't sell many kites, and need to pay their bills.....
Each to there own...for sure.... just don't forget about the bigger picture.....
Kitehard
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11 Aug 2006 6:28pm
Realplayer,

It is the kitestores and importers and also the assorted other parephenalia that goes along with kiting that support and donate to competitions for the local riders to have fun at. It costs a lot of money and organisation to put on demo days, comps, etc etc and if everyone wanting to save a few bucks went overseas, there would be no money from the small businesses here in Oz.

Businesses only put in goods and cash if there is a return in it for them, it's called marketing, if there is reduced money, there will be reduced contributions so you see it effects everyone, not just the local kiteshop.

Good luck with your purchases.

Good winds,

lurch
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11 Aug 2006 6:52pm
I totally agree with Kitejacker. I've been living in small coastal communities for a few years now. If you don't support your local infrastructure they go down the tube and then you have to buy from an unknown over the phone and hopefully its gonna be on a freight line.
Its a nice feeling when you can support a local business and get to know them. They might charge a bit more, thats because it costs more to get here and they also have mouths to feed and shelters to maintain.
Its also great as Kitejacker says, to drop in grab something from a store, etc, yell to them that you'll be thru tomorrow to fix up the bill and they trust you.
Having a sense of community spirit and trust is one of the great things in life.
Rember when you were a grommet and the local surf shop would let you hang out and you'd get 10% on what you bought, even though you put your skatey thru their window and stood out the back trying to bum beers from the older crew, all while being totally amped on the surf, chicks, etc.
Never forget that sense of community spirit, support the locals and they will support you. Its not just about the product, its the friendships that you forge and possibly that little secret spot they might show you.
To me that is priceless.
Buy local and keep it real.
waveslave
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11 Aug 2006 7:14pm
Nice post Lurch, heartfelt stuff.

Anyway,
I'd probably buy locally if my town had a kitestore.
It's got 4 surfshops though.
Go figure.
marc
marc
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169 posts
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11 Aug 2006 9:05pm
quote:
Originally posted by powersails

I'll keep that in mind when I'm trying to sell your crap windsurfing gear that you have on consignment in my shop here in Oz.



well, i am a little speechless here..... what does that have to do with the conversation here.
Dear Tim, you will make 20 % on my crap equipment when the season starts again hopefully.
and remember, i came to your shop last year looking for a small kite.
you did not have stock so what i am supposed to do then ?
buy at your best friend who wants to ban kiting and does not have stock either .......
so, people buy were they want or where they find interesting equipment, it is a free world after all.
i just wonder if you guys shop at the small grocery store to save them or look after your money and go to woolies ????
if shops would have bargains, offer good deals and lots of second hand and so on maybe we could consider buying local but this is far from beeing the case and specially in Geraldton for example.

marc-a.
marc
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11 Aug 2006 9:14pm


I'm sorry Marc but that post just shows to me that you are totally out of touch with reality and no, kites do not come with an international warranty.


really ...... sorry but mine come with one. I have north kites and if i remember well, some friend had them exchange last season in geraldton under warranty.

so, for us european, it does not make sense to buy in oz if you tell me that they are not covered. at least from your shop.

but, having had a few trouble already with various equipment, the shops where you buy is not always willing to help anyway and this is not only me having this experience.

and frankly who can be friend with a shop owner .....don't get me wrong but the only reason would be to get a bargain and him to get a deal so, i don't think it is good to mix friendship and business because if you go to the other shop well, he won't talk to you anymore !

marc-a.
gruezi
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11 Aug 2006 9:20pm
Oh, King of the Castle, you are right on, but unfortunately for some people the world runs on price only.

I had a nice little kite this arvo, not much wind but fun. Counting the days till Summer....only a month and a half till wind.

The best advice is to buy kites where you kite, and the closer to your home the better. I can walk to my local, and I'm so happy as he is stocked with everything..........heaven.

stamp
stamp
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12 Aug 2006 12:25am
marc, if its such a bad situation here for you- go home. simple
stamp
stamp
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12 Aug 2006 12:25am
marc, if its such a bad situation here for you- go home. simple
marc
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11 Aug 2006 10:44pm
sorry. say again ....
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