Well a guy I know brought a kite from someone on here was told kite had a couple of pro repairs but was in good cond for age all be it was an 08 took it to mean may be a bit tatty but would be ok , got kite turns out it a piece of **** an he's been ripped I know it's buyer be ware on secondhand **** but to have holes in bladder so it don't hold air an for seller to say well you need to learn to fix em , pluse when it gets wet it holds water (seller knew bloke was a beginner ) to me is bull so don't buy kites from roopzz as they are **** and if this gets pulled too bad as this sort of thing is ****e go me yep some people deserve what they get but not newbys cause thats just ****e good one roopzz Regards mick just my opinion but