Cape Town or WA?!? / 2 wks up the coast?

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rogierbrand
rogierbrand
6 posts
6 posts
1 Jan 2007 9:49pm
If having the choice; kiting 2 wks Cape Town or 2 wks WA first 2 wks Feb (the other I will do March / April), what will be the best timing for season, wind, temp etc?

If it will be Perth in Feb, I was hoping to find someone who would like to go up North with and kite different beaches. Anyone who is interested pls let me know.

Cheers

looseunit
looseunit
QLD
111 posts
QLD, 111 posts
1 Jan 2007 11:02pm
if its just kiting go to wa .but if its a chance to see who has done the worst to there locals go to cape
kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
WA
2184 posts
WA, 2184 posts
1 Jan 2007 10:14pm
quote:
Originally posted by looseunit

if its just kiting go to wa .but if its a chance to see who has done the worst to there locals go to cape


can you translate that?
think its time to remember that Australia has as bad a history with the indigenous people as South Africa, whites are actually the first to live in the cape. it was only after the cape was colonised that the bush men moved down from the north

but back to where to go.
south africa has a VERY high chance that something bad will happen to you. if you have no contacts in SA that will look after you during your stay then dont go there. no joke SA is very dangerous for those who are not familiar with it.
looseunit
looseunit
QLD
111 posts
QLD, 111 posts
1 Jan 2007 11:24pm
we give more to the locals than the dutch ever did so have r real look (ask some one who been over there clearing the mines so kids can play owe yes i did a mine sweep of freo last week so lets all swim at freo) dont start me on history
GreenPat
GreenPat
QLD
4108 posts
QLD, 4108 posts
2 Jan 2007 2:36am
Probably best if you don't get started on history, you seem to have a few strange versions of it. I've never heard of any landmines in the Western Cape, in fact any serious conflict there at all. The Boer war mostly took place around the Transvaal and Natal, and I don't think landmines were used much. More of the guerilla warfare they were so famous for inventing. Mozambique however, that's a different story. Lots of peeps getting around minus various amounts of limbs. Not really as windy as CT either so I've only kited there once, as oppose to three times in CT.

Australia, however, features in the top ten genocidal countries in the world, according to the museum of genocide in Rwanda. Our state sponsored slaughter of aborigines was a bit harsh back in the 18th and 19th centuries, and earlier in the 20th century our policies were very similar to aparthied. Very very similar. So 'who has done the worst to there locals' (spelling mistake included for authenticity) is still pretty open to debate in my books. What handouts the aboriginals get now compared to South African blacks (you're allowed to call them black there) is a different story. Thing is though, if you're unemployed in SA it doesn't matter what colour you are, the social security setup is almost non-existant.

Anyway back to the original question, I'd say WA in feb and CT later. The seasons are almost identical but CT is a bit longer, so I think your best chance for wind in both is optimised in this way. It's wind though, you know what it's like.

Cape Town wind is generally stronger than Perth, perhaps on a par with Gero? I don't know Gero so well though. I know that Perth will sit around 20-25 knots on a typical day (wish there were a few more typical days right now) and Cape Town is more like 25-30 knots, pushing over that a bit more often than Perth would out of its range.

Temp. Eish. Met Eish, as the jaarpies say. Cape Town water is serious brass monkeys year round. Full length wetsuit, no questions. it actually gets warmer in winter due to the way the currents work, but that's like saying I'm closer to the moon than you are, it doesn't make much difference. A mad mate of mine reckons he's been out in boardshorts in winter there once, I reckon he can keep it. WA though, boardshorts are fine, I haven't bothered with even a shortie wetsuit this summer.

Anyway in respect to the no commercial content on the forum I won't post the link here, I'll pm you, but if anyone else wants to know drop me a line, I've got a mate there who has just set up a downwind shuttle service. Looks like fun. (I hope that wasn't too commercial itself?) If epic downwinders in seriously sexy waves doesn't interest you give him a shout anyway, he knows pretty much everyone who has ever put up a kite in South Africa and will be happy to share local knowlege and maybe a beer, though he's trying to give them up.
bigmark100
bigmark100
NSW
584 posts
NSW, 584 posts
2 Jan 2007 2:32pm
ive not been to WA so cant compare for you, but from a kiting point of view, Capetown rocks.
yeah the water is cold, but when its blowing almost 30knots with clear blue skies almost every day, who cares.
down winders from dolphin beach to table bay are awesome to do. must be about 3kms.with very nice waves.
and a regular shuttle back for kiters. wind is good until april. ive just come back from there, and most days I was kiting with Ruben Lenton, Aardon Hadlow and . The fact that they spend so much time there says a lot.
my trip did end with me and family being held up in kentucy fried chicken by armed robbers....but my family has lived in south africa for over 20 years and its the first incident like this.
generally speaking capetown is fairly safe compared to the rest of south africa.
see pictures here.....
http://www.chandos.smugmug.com/gallery/2272905
niall barrett
niall barrett
WA
248 posts
WA, 248 posts
2 Jan 2007 3:15pm
WAAAAAAAAAAA all the way

been a great season over here apart from a week long trough over Xmas [probably saved a lot of marriages]. The vibe at woodies [flat water] and scarborough [waves] is really friendly. The beach life is shall we say usually 'very attractive'. The water is blue and warm [boardies], nobody threatens your personal safety, the wind very rarely exceeds a kiteable limit in summer.

I have been communicating with a friend who visited Cape town for 3 weeks and kited only 2 days because he reckons it was always too windy!!!

Here the average summer sees a kiteable breeze at least 5 days out of 7, the sea breeze does a steady 20kts, maybe 25, but rarely 30, the wind is side slightly on and steady, the waves at Scarbs are pretty small but FUN FUN FUN. It is Australian prices though and nights out will cost you
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