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Underoath
Underoath
QLD
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19 Sep 2015 10:37pm
Hi all, as the season is about to start. Remember to have a look over your lines.


I had an incident today in gusty conditions, under heavy load, I snapped both port side lines.

Don’t risk it, at times today I was 500m offshore.



Thanks to the two lads who helped me, Long and Ozone rider with helmet,






Front line snapped at the knot, the steering line snapped 6m down.






swinginginthewind
swinginginthewind
WA
281 posts
WA, 281 posts
19 Sep 2015 8:46pm
Its all these megaloop jumps you do Jase
Underoath
Underoath
QLD
2434 posts
QLD, 2434 posts
19 Sep 2015 10:48pm
That's how they snapped - mid loop.

No injuries all good.

toppleover
toppleover
QLD
2070 posts
QLD, 2070 posts
19 Sep 2015 11:08pm
You better get them lines fixed quick Jase, there,s more green arrow,s on the horizon.

Lucky it didn't happen out at OWI

There is/was a fellow at Caloundra that fixes kites/lines ect, let me know if you need his no.


stuntnaz
stuntnaz
NSW
540 posts
NSW, 540 posts
20 Sep 2015 6:35am
Your heading should be check your lines for knots !!
Plummet
Plummet
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4862 posts
20 Sep 2015 4:37am
Couple a things. don't loop 500m out at sea, that is stupid.

Secondly why do some manufacturers not colour code their lines? That is bloody stupid....... dangerous.... unsafe... dense....
Loftywinds
Loftywinds
QLD
2060 posts
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20 Sep 2015 7:32am
The problem is visually one cannot see if a line is weak or about to break. Unless it's obvious, like fraying, stretching, etc then it's a risk either way.
generally, I replace my lines ever 2 years. It's the only way to be sure they won't break under load.
Underoath
Underoath
QLD
2434 posts
QLD, 2434 posts
20 Sep 2015 8:24am
Plummet, Bro, I don't loop 500m out to sea. I use large tacks. Who's to say it couldn't have snapped due to a gust?

Last time I snapped a line was when I was learning. Better to be safe than 500m offshore with boots on.


manicskier
manicskier
VIC
772 posts
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20 Sep 2015 9:11am
Plummet said..
Couple a things. don't loop 500m out at sea, that is stupid.

Secondly why do some manufacturers not colour code their lines? That is bloody stupid....... dangerous.... unsafe... dense....






Underoath said..

I was 500m offshore.

Then said....

That's how they snapped - mid loop.

No injuries all good.



Just saying

but yeah, if your lines are stuffed get new ones
Underoath
Underoath
QLD
2434 posts
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20 Sep 2015 9:36am
Hi Manicskier, I said at times I was 500m offshore.

You cant take two conversations and put them into one quote. My second post was in reply to Swinginthewind.

Hope that will clarify things for you.



NickT
NickT
WA
1094 posts
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20 Sep 2015 7:56am
Colored lines are only Good for untieing knots and people who can't rig kites!
NickT
NickT
WA
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WA, 1094 posts
20 Sep 2015 7:57am
That's not the bar i swapped you?
Smithy
Smithy
VIC
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20 Sep 2015 11:29am
stuntnaz said..
Your heading should be check your lines for knots !!


What he said, you shouldn't have knots in any of your lines, knots weaken the lines put massive strain on the line fibres... Doesn't matter how good the lines are knots will kill them.
Underoath
Underoath
QLD
2434 posts
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20 Sep 2015 11:54am
NickT said...
That's not the bar i swapped you?


Nope. You didn't swap me a lemon. Your white bar is the only one I have atm.

GarryA
GarryA
WA
268 posts
WA, 268 posts
20 Sep 2015 9:58am
Snapped lines .... Tied nots in lines and flew them for another 2 sessions but not recommended .... Agree with Nick nothing wrong with all lines white unless u don't know how to connect them to ur kite
Plummet
Plummet
4862 posts
4862 posts
20 Sep 2015 10:16am
NickT said..
Colored lines are only Good for untieing knots and people who can't rig kites!


Ever slack lined a kite and landed in or by the lines... Coloured lined help to know what ones are the dangerous ones? which ones to unwrap first before the lines tension again and deglove what ever they are wrapping around
Ever been in the waves with the white wash so big you can't see ya bar only the lines coming out of the water?
No?

Maybe your not kiting hard enough.
Underoath
Underoath
QLD
2434 posts
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20 Sep 2015 12:26pm
Nick is quite expirenced. So I don't know where your comment is going there.
NickT
NickT
WA
1094 posts
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20 Sep 2015 11:06am
Hey Plummet, yeah i've had lines wrapped over my head in 30 - 35 kts and head and a half swell. Just went off my surfboard as i was overpowered so went to my wakeboard. Decided to loop late and got heaps of slack that i ran into.

Couldn't tell what color the lines were under water nor cared, the only thing i knew was to get them off before my kite hot launched down wind, lucky the reason i was underwater was i just got smashed by a wave and it sheltered my kite. To this day the most adrenalizing and frightening experience I've had.

If like to think in that situation next time is reach for my knife, but reactions are funny things when time is of the essence.

I don't need a p!ssing contest! enjoy your colored lines, im a black and white kind of guy!
juicerider
juicerider
WA
790 posts
WA, 790 posts
20 Sep 2015 11:29am
Plummet said..


Maybe your not kiting hard enough.


You say some stupid things sometimes Plummet

Scrubes
Scrubes
VIC
115 posts
VIC, 115 posts
20 Sep 2015 3:29pm
each to there own
Gorgo
Gorgo
VIC
5124 posts
VIC, 5124 posts
20 Sep 2015 5:51pm
Loftywinds said..
The problem is visually one cannot see if a line is weak or about to break. Unless it's obvious, like fraying, stretching, etc then it's a risk either way.
generally, I replace my lines ever 2 years. It's the only way to be sure they won't break under load.



Apart from being posted by Loftywinds, why did this get loads of red thumbs?

You can't tell if lines are about to break just by looking at them. It's a bit over the top to replace lines every two years, but it's not the dumbest idea there is.

Colour coded lines are a good idea, but it's not the most important thing there is. Any line wrapped around your fingers is risking de-gloving in strong conditions. Colour coded leaders and pigtails are far more important for general convenience and usability.
Underoath
Underoath
QLD
2434 posts
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20 Sep 2015 7:03pm
Don't all brands have knots on the inside lines and loops on the back steering lines. ( or vise versa)

Aka kook proof??

Who has knots on all their 4 bar lines?
SibboV1
SibboV1
368 posts
368 posts
20 Sep 2015 6:36pm
Underoath said..

Who has knots on all their 4 bar lines?


Me and I think lots of other people with Best kites, as that is why I changed my bars to all knots. Just got to double check before launch, but it's not that hard to run your lines out properly.

I thought I did have them back to front on the old school C, as it wouldn't depower, but that was just that kite!!
Hybrid_Z
Hybrid_Z
VIC
382 posts
VIC, 382 posts
20 Sep 2015 9:35pm
Plummet said...
NickT said..
Colored lines are only Good for untieing knots and people who can't rig kites!


Ever slack lined a kite and landed in or by the lines... Coloured lined help to know what ones are the dangerous ones? which ones to unwrap first before the lines tension again and deglove what ever they are wrapping around
Ever been in the waves with the white wash so big you can't see ya bar only the lines coming out of the water?
No?

Maybe your not kiting hard enough.


I'd almost forgot what a massive tool you are, thanks for the reminder.
Gorgo
Gorgo
VIC
5124 posts
VIC, 5124 posts
20 Sep 2015 10:52pm
Underoath said..
Don't all brands have knots on the inside lines and loops on the back steering lines. ( or vise versa)

Aka kook proof??

Who has knots on all their 4 bar lines?


No kite lines have knots in them. Pig tails and leaders might but not the lines. Pig tails and leaders are made out of 1100kg 3 mm dyneema. Lines are much thinner and weaker than that. At best 300kg.
Jonopark
Jonopark
WA
400 posts
WA, 400 posts
20 Sep 2015 10:35pm
Lucky it didn't happen in WA, where the wind actually has some power!
SugarQube
SugarQube
WA
490 posts
WA, 490 posts
21 Sep 2015 10:55am
So you have knots in your lines and they are the wrong colour, do mega loops 5ks out to sea with Ugg boots, I miss anything? good thing you moved to QL ya kook !
Underoath
Underoath
QLD
2434 posts
QLD, 2434 posts
21 Sep 2015 1:35pm
I want a new board Qube!

Does the 2016 TT's come designed with the boot rider in mind?
SugarQube
SugarQube
WA
490 posts
WA, 490 posts
21 Sep 2015 2:23pm
No more boards for you, you destroy everything, infact the only one who managed to break two twin tips by by going hard,

I recon you could get a job in material testing.....it will break, Underoath can tell you when
NickT
NickT
WA
1094 posts
WA, 1094 posts
21 Sep 2015 3:17pm
SugarQube said...
No more boards for you, you destroy everything, infact the only one who managed to break two twin tips by by going hard,

I recon you could get a job in material testing.....it will break, Underoath can tell you when


Suprised he broke any! He never landed with them under his feet!
NickT
NickT
WA
1094 posts
WA, 1094 posts
21 Sep 2015 3:18pm
Underoath said...
I want a new board Qube!

Does the 2016 TT's come designed with the boot rider in mind?


Steves selling his board as he's now moved to strapless wave riding! Axis Billy with lf Raphs
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