Alot of good threads about the smaller cross bows, has anyone used the bigger kites?

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Fitzy,

I don't know about the bar you are proposing to use, but if you take the pullies out of the equation then you will be:
A) Doubling the effect of the bar movement.so your bar movements will have to be a lot more precise
b)Increasing the load on the bar by a factor of 2.


Like I said I don't know about the setup you are proposing and may be wildly inaccurate (appologies if I am)

Have fun in the sun

Alby
(a poor missguided poley)

Hey Elmo,
These kite-wimps that whine about pussie bar pressure...pffff
Think windsurfer booms, NOW that's fucn pressure.

Hi Elmo and Steve

I have just been considering the feedback available on the many forums regarding the increased bar pressure on the crossbow kites specifically when being ridden at the very bottom of their wind range. The higher wind ranges are apparently not a concern.

The feedback seems to indicate that this is due to the fact that the kite has to be ridden sheeted well in, in these conditions and my concern is that it will inflame birsitis in elbows. (Yep I am an old prick!) Pressure on the elbows when they are bent is what causes this painfull condition.

My thoughts are for the use of a different bar for light conditions only and will only be done if the bar pressure is excessive in light conditions as indicated in many posts.

The CC Bar gives very similar depower range to the crossbow so I believe that it will not compromise the safety angle. That is the reason I am going for the crossbow. Huge depower when needed, like my Rapture 12M

In relation to the 2 to 1 pully ratio, the effort required to turn the Crossbow with the pulleys attached to the steering lines will be twice that of a standard bar without pulleys, not the other way around.

The CC Bar on the other hand uses pulleys on the centre lines only, which means it is harder to sheet in but is not harder to steer.

If I feel it is necessary to use a different bar in light conditions I will use a longer version of the CC bar which will give me more leverage and should compensate for the lack of 2 to 1 pulley advantage in the steering lines. (the amount of steering line that is moved when you turn the kite)

Thanks for your input. I will let you know what the result is.

Look forward to riding the new kite soon Steve.

Regards Fitzy - Gold Coast OZ

me I plan on keeping the bar and hooking it to Da Vinci’s Ornithopter Kite