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Airman1
Airman1
37 posts
37 posts
7 Mar 2009 4:04pm
CAN EVERYBODY REMEMBER TO VOTE FOR DAYLIGHT SAVINGS ON MAY 16TH.
IT WILL BE A REALLY CLOSE VOTE.
LAST NIGHT WAS DARK AT 814PM.
IF DAYLIGHT SAVINGS VOTED AGAINST WILL BE DARK DURING SUMMER JUST AFTER 7PM!!!!!
IMAGINE GETTING ON WATER AFTER WORK AT 6PM AND HAVING JUST OVER 1 HOUR OF SAILING!!!!!

IF YOU LOVE THE WIND VOTE YES

CHEERS
iti
iti
QLD
417 posts
iti iti
QLD, 417 posts
7 Mar 2009 5:35pm
Mate i was brought up on daylight saving in NZ , do u think they are going to keep it here

BLOODY GOOD LUCK
the gaz
the gaz
WA
173 posts
WA, 173 posts
7 Mar 2009 5:13pm
Most of the western world is bought up on daylight saving but I'm not holding my breath for WA to join the 21st century.

Change doesn't happen here unfortunately. I'll be voting a big YES though, here's hoping.
sandgroper
sandgroper
WA
368 posts
WA, 368 posts
8 Mar 2009 10:03am
the gaz said...

Most of the western world is bought up on daylight saving but I'm not holding my breath for WA to join the 21st century.

Change doesn't happen here unfortunately. I'll be voting a big YES though, here's hoping.


As noted previously on this subject, there is no significant "daylight" to "save" for people north of the Tropic of Capricorn.

I've yet to see any DS advocates comment on how the so called "benefits" of DS are completely dependent on where you live. Perth people just see DS from the Perth-centric point of view with no regard for the effect on people in Kalgoorlie, Broome, and, most especially Kununnara. The latter location will have no DS effect at all even in the peak of summer, because on average, they recieve less than 1 hour of extra sunlight during the summer. Albany has some 90 minutes more daylight in December than Kununurra even though both have sunrise at the same time.

One solution might be to localise DS to south of a line between Geraldton and Esperance. Then the Perthlings would have their precious DS without affecting parts of the state where it made no sense, and everyone would live happily ever after But that would spoil the game plan of DS pushers wanting to treat everyone in the state of WA as if we all lived in Perth.

phrase
phrase
WA
228 posts
WA, 228 posts
8 Mar 2009 10:59am
If daylight savings has not much effect on the northen part of W.A. then who cares. It affects my kiting time and that is all that matters. Vote yes, OR ELSE! [}:)]
webandit
webandit
WA
22 posts
WA, 22 posts
8 Mar 2009 12:02pm
If it doesn't effect certain parts of the state then why would the people in these locations want to prevent everyone else from enjoying it? Just because they don't know how to change their clocks?
frant
frant
VIC
1230 posts
VIC, 1230 posts
8 Mar 2009 3:31pm
sandgroper said...

the gaz said...

Most of the western world is bought up on daylight saving but I'm not holding my breath for WA to join the 21st century.

Change doesn't happen here unfortunately. I'll be voting a big YES though, here's hoping.


As noted previously on this subject, there is no significant "daylight" to "save" for people north of the Tropic of Capricorn.

I've yet to see any DS advocates comment on how the so called "benefits" of DS are completely dependent on where you live. Perth people just see DS from the Perth-centric point of view with no regard for the effect on people in Kalgoorlie, Broome, and, most especially Kununnara. The latter location will have no DS effect at all even in the peak of summer, because on average, they recieve less than 1 hour of extra sunlight during the summer. Albany has some 90 minutes more daylight in December than Kununurra even though both have sunrise at the same time.

One solution might be to localise DS to south of a line between Geraldton and Esperance. Then the Perthlings would have their precious DS without affecting parts of the state where it made no sense, and everyone would live happily ever after But that would spoil the game plan of DS pushers wanting to treat everyone in the state of WA as if we all lived in Perth.




In the words of that silly politician woman from up North of the Tropic of Capricorn....."PLEASE EXPLAIN". Surely if you live in a region that does not have a large seasonal variation in daylight hours and has a very short twilight daylight saving would be more valuable. Instead of being dark at say 7.30 with daylight saving it will not get dark until 8.30 allowing people the opportunity to spend an extra hour enjoying themselves outdoors.
In my business we add an extra 2 hours of daylight saving to the 1 granted by starting at 6 am rather than 8 am in winter. Alows staff to knock off at 2.30 go home and get changed, pick the kids up from school and spend a few hours down at the beach or whatever.
I do appreciate that daylight saving can work against people who like to go for a quick surf or bike ride before work, I am included in this category, however the benefits at large far outweigh the disadvantages.
brianw7843
brianw7843
WA
7 posts
WA, 7 posts
9 Mar 2009 12:58am
Dont forget all the tests that channel 7 show to tell us how it is destroying our lives, this one hour less of sleep once a year is a killer NOT. Is it just me or does everybody else have late nights and early mornings during the year. It would be nice however to se a bit more balance in their coverage, maybe for a change show the positives of it ( or could it be that they are just pissed that they have lost ratings as people are out doing things instead of voting in their stupid polls )
Im still a Kiwi so I cant vote for it but I have tried to change in time, so please vote for me!!
Charl dv
Charl dv
WA
2485 posts
WA, 2485 posts
9 Mar 2009 1:07am
surf is sh!it in summer anyway so you dont miss anything.... you go for a surf in the morning during winter, where DS hasnt affected anything at all and where there is a swell that actually stands higher than your ankle.
poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
WA, 9106 posts
9 Mar 2009 9:51am
sandgroper said...

the gaz said...

Most of the western world is bought up on daylight saving but I'm not holding my breath for WA to join the 21st century.

Change doesn't happen here unfortunately. I'll be voting a big YES though, here's hoping.


As noted previously on this subject, there is no significant "daylight" to "save" for people north of the Tropic of Capricorn.

I've yet to see any DS advocates comment on how the so called "benefits" of DS are completely dependent on where you live. Perth people just see DS from the Perth-centric point of view with no regard for the effect on people in Kalgoorlie, Broome, and, most especially Kununnara. The latter location will have no DS effect at all even in the peak of summer, because on average, they recieve less than 1 hour of extra sunlight during the summer. Albany has some 90 minutes more daylight in December than Kununurra even though both have sunrise at the same time.

One solution might be to localise DS to south of a line between Geraldton and Esperance. Then the Perthlings would have their precious DS without affecting parts of the state where it made no sense, and everyone would live happily ever after But that would spoil the game plan of DS pushers wanting to treat everyone in the state of WA as if we all lived in Perth.




The majority of voters live in Perth
In a democracy majority rules

However we live in Perth where narrow mindedness and "old woman syndrome" are rife. Your truly afflicted Gropster.
So with that in mind Daylight saving or Sunday Trading will never be passed.
buckwheat
buckwheat
WA
85 posts
WA, 85 posts
9 Mar 2009 10:04am
Yes Poor Relative you echo my sentiments exactly. I'll admit DLS does suck a bit up north - I work FIFO in the Pilbara and its harder to get up for your shift and the heat hangs around longer at the end of the day. However - does that mean we should arrange our lives to suit the minority in the Pilbara?

Sure the DLS thing is Perth-centric (or south-of-Gero-centric) - but if this is where the majority of the population live, then surely that is democracy in action.

I will be voting a big yes, but I'm not holding my breath. What with DLS and trading hours, it seems WA is full of troglodytes living in the 18th century.
manicskier
manicskier
VIC
772 posts
VIC, 772 posts
9 Mar 2009 12:23pm
buckwheat said...

it seems WA is full of troglodytes living in the 18th century.


That'll come in handy at some point
buckwheat
buckwheat
WA
85 posts
WA, 85 posts
9 Mar 2009 11:04am
Yeah, probably wasn;t helpful I'll admit - but when you live here you get frustrated at alot of the backwardness.

puppetonastring
puppetonastring
WA
3619 posts
WA, 3619 posts
9 Mar 2009 1:21pm
sandgroper said...
most especially Kununnara. The latter location will have no DS effect at all even in the peak of summer, because on average, they recieve less than 1 hour of extra sunlight during the summer.


What a load of gob-dribble carp is that . Thats even more ridiculous than the curtains argument.
It will have EXACTLY the same intended effect in Kunnunurra; ie an extra hour of light after working hours. DOH!! The only argument is whether you want it or not.
It produces that EXACT same result EVERYWHERE anytime of the year - winter included.
(NB if you want to get real technical pls excuse the poles or those places where the sun might not set after normal working hours ??? & theres not many of them)

I vote for 2 hrs of DS in Summer - 1 Hr for all the rest of the year.
Charl dv
Charl dv
WA
2485 posts
WA, 2485 posts
9 Mar 2009 1:50pm
keep in mind the seabreeze is an hour later with dls so 2 hours might mean there's that one unusable hour i vote 1 hour in summer and a big fat cup of htfu for the state.
kiter789
kiter789
NSW
238 posts
NSW, 238 posts
9 Mar 2009 4:00pm
So far it seems the only thing everyone is likely to agree on is that everyone should stop watching Channel 7.

Brilliant idea, got my vote!
rscaife
rscaife
WA
96 posts
WA, 96 posts
9 Mar 2009 2:05pm
Maybe we could all learn a lesson from the Inuit/Eskimo's. While non-stop daylight for three months really does fade their curtains, they all agree nonetheless that Summer is the absolute time of choice in the arctic.
webandit
webandit
WA
22 posts
WA, 22 posts
9 Mar 2009 8:25pm
I like the troglodytes call ^^^, it's so true. People really do resist change in Perth its crazy, I heard an argument recently that deregulating the trading hours would restrict peoples freedom of choice on when they could shop, WTF?. Its this same re- verse/tard logic that people use to argue against DLS.
kk
kk
WA
953 posts
kk kk
WA, 953 posts
9 Mar 2009 9:30pm
Well I'll be voting NO... And what is it to you??? Did someone mention democracy?? What about free country did anyone mention that?? Travel is not free but you are certainly free to leave if you don't like it..

I just don't get it People constantly carry on about how much they hate it here(in WA) because it is better somewhere else, or how it's dullsville or the clock is wrong or they can't shop while the 2nd class people have to work (at the shops) so they have the privlage to shop at will...

Get on the freeway and when you see a sign pointing to the airport..... Follow it.. or if thats too hard get up really early in the morning and follow the sun till about 9am then stop... till the next morning... and keep doing that every day till you get to your heaven.. Or altenatively do it after about 3pm..and don't forget your floaties..

Fair dinkum (that's an Australian term) if we get DLS I'll wear it, and if we don't that will suit me fine but I'm not gonna go around calling people names and making judgements about them

poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
WA, 9106 posts
9 Mar 2009 11:11pm

kk said...

Fair dinkum (that's an Australian term)


No its not. I’m told it originates from Chinese.
It means real, and is used to allay any potential disbelief about some claim the speaker is making.
Apparently, Chinese gold miners in the nineteenth century would tell others of any discoveries of gold using the phrase din gum meaning ‘real gold’ in Chinese.” Of course during gold rush times the phrase found its way here.
Aussies being what aussies are adopted the phrase as their own and bastardised the vowels.
About as aussie as Jelena Dokic




Charl dv
Charl dv
WA
2485 posts
WA, 2485 posts
10 Mar 2009 12:54am
its because WA has sweet frikin wind. tht is it. you guys are just scared off change.. its ok buddy it wont hurt you
buckwheat
buckwheat
WA
85 posts
WA, 85 posts
10 Mar 2009 2:36pm
kk, we're not saying how much we hate it here in WA. We're saying how much DLS and trading hours bug us. I see nothing wrong in criticising something if you think it can be done better - that is how we make progress as a civilisation.



whatthe
whatthe
WA
186 posts
WA, 186 posts
10 Mar 2009 4:58pm
I've noticed that everyone I know in WA who has lived in another state or country with Daylight Saving thinks it is great and is going to vote Yes. The people who have never left WA for an extended period don't like it. This is pretty much age-independent also. My interstate friends are really surprised when I tell them people here are going to vote against it.

What does this say about WA? I don't know. Maybe the people who haven't gone out and explored something different will never be convinced that some change is a good thing.

I love WA for the weather and the lifestyle. I just wish the half of the population that are resistant to change would leave Meanwhile, I have to absorb all the quips about WA being 3 hours and 2 decades behind the rest of Australia....
the gaz
the gaz
WA
173 posts
WA, 173 posts
10 Mar 2009 5:22pm
Right on buckwheat, a little critisism is not a bad thing. Perth is a great place to live but unfortunately the "everything is forbidden except what's allowed" mentality does nothing to improve the great assets the place has.

If WA had had DLS as long as the eastern states the lifestyle would have changed ages ago, but because it gets light at 5.30 in the morn in summer people have learned to go swimming, walk the dog, or whatever because they have 2-3 hours of daylight to kill before work.

Bring on the changes.

Poida
Poida
WA
1922 posts
WA, 1922 posts
10 Mar 2009 5:37pm
cgaf after getting off the 8.30am to 5pm treadmill

Danger Mouse
Danger Mouse
WA
592 posts
WA, 592 posts
10 Mar 2009 7:12pm
the gaz said...

Right on buckwheat, a little critisism is not a bad thing. Perth is a great place to live but unfortunately the "everything is forbidden except what's allowed" mentality does nothing to improve the great assets the place has.

If WA had had DLS as long as the eastern states the lifestyle would have changed ages ago, but because it gets light at 5.30 in the morn in summer people have learned to go swimming, walk the dog, or whatever because they have 2-3 hours of daylight to kill before work.

Bring on the changes.




Couldn't agree more, I'm definately voting yes.

Hopefully the change is a-comin'.................. But sadly I doubt it.

D
Boab Nut
Boab Nut
3 posts
3 posts
11 Mar 2009 3:28am
Hi all yus down south. Im Boab and Im from Kununurra
Bin readin this ere forum for ages bu this's interestin so I rekon ill join in.
Im thinkin Mr Sandgropa is definitley a big bad troll.
Nobody in any way of sane mind could put up the stuff what he does and mean any of it - not sereously at any road.
Take his kununnura DLS stuff.
We dont want DLS up ere ? yer rite
Wouldnt make any difference up here ? wtfru on gropa
Gawd blimey goannas - DLS up my way is a bludy must.
When yu live wear the sun sets when the shops shut (thatd be 5:30 at the beginning and end of summa) and at the latest 6:00 midsumma we desperetly gotta get ourselfs some of this DLS. The more the merrier for all us folks fer sure.

Yer see me an me mates are all mad keen SUP'ers so unless your game enough to risk a bit of night SUPing (but that'd be way dangerus I rekon) all yer can do after work roun ere is go home turn on a light an drink. This gives u a huge hangover so you cant do nuthin when the sun comes up at 5:00 cept keep sleepin it orf. So without no DLS we never get a chance to get out on the old Lily Creek Laggoon ceptin fer weekends and wen our missuses has kids and otha sorta holidays.

So thats wot we all rekon and so i writ this litle poem for yers all to think on this saterday when yus all go votin
Dont listen to that gropa dude.
Nuthin he says is tried or trued.
His just bein silly
Hes pullin yer willy
Just vote yeah DLS cos it makes sense & the only rymin word I can think of for ere is kangarood
Boab Nut
Boab Nut
3 posts
3 posts
11 Mar 2009 3:40am
an one more thing
Even me mum is votin for it too cos even tho she dusnt SUP an she likes drinkin everynite she reckons that by the time shes fixed to take dingo for a stroll in the mornin its already arf past six and its too bludy hot already so she has to cool down with anutha drink already an then the poor bludy dog misses out agin.

so give us all a break vote DSL for wa
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