give examples and let's open a discussion :) I bet this will be a long one hahahaha!!

if god had wanted us to be vegetarians

......why did he make animals out of meat?

greenleader said...

if god had wanted us to be vegetarians

......why did he make animals out of meat?

Dear leader

Last time I checked i was made out of meat too does this mean I should eat myself or just other people?

then again:
1. with so many people riding with board leashes and no helmets
2. with so many people standing on the crowded beach with the kite at 12 when it is >20 knt.
3. with so many people not respecting the right of way rules

I can go on haha :)

back in the days we all had more respect to the kite and its power, safety....and now..?

waveslave said...

lol.
Maybe they are more focussed on teching-up the plumbing on the latest one-pump system.

You could have asked that question about 10 years ago when it had a lot of relevance and guys got hurt due to no or inadequate quick releases, although a few companies were still not up to scratch 2 years back. like the one on your kite maybe?
Havnt seen any bad systems on the latest kites

Any safety system you can invent will be over ridden by blind panic. People are still being lofted with fully depowerable kites because they pull in on the bar when in trouble. I can site a number of examples.

bobjaan said...

People are responsible for accidents not kiting equipment.

The safety stuff is demanded by gumbies that can't control their kites properly, so the market gives them what they want at a charge.

It reminds me of...

'Guns don't kill people; people kill people !!!'

We could say that safety developments have opened up accessibility to the sport, blah, blah, blah, etc. (ad nauseum)... But however you market all the whistles and bells of '187% Depower' and 'Lands itself in a Hurricane', people will still make bad decisions and have 'Accidents'...

By the way, most companies have a SERIOUS disclaimer on their equipment... ???

how much more safety do YOU want?

Personally, When I go out, Im happy with the safety systems built into my kite to keep the public and then myself safe.

Kiting is not work, You dont need to be bubble wrapped in OH&S

greenleader said...

if god had wanted us to be vegetarians

......why did he make animals out of meat?

hmmmm... what about:

If milk goes bad if not refrigerated, does it go bad if the cow isnt refrigerated?

and

How fast do hotcakes sell?

Can anyone answer these brain twisting questions.

I agree.
It would be awesome if the only kites that existed still were 2 liners. The pussies would die or run off crying and only the sensible people that are worth having a chat with would be left kiting.

KIT33R said...

Any safety system you can invent will be over ridden by blind panic. People are still being lofted with fully depowerable kites because they pull in on the bar when in trouble. I can site a number of examples.

Spot on ... I loathe how people call a leash 'the safety" and the c loop release 'the quick release" what a "safety" is and a "quick" whatever is a kiter who has done their time flying in all sorts of conditions and is not a wannabe , has developed excellent kite skills and has some respect for the kite and the conditions and has rid themselves of the noobs natural reaction that when they make a mistake they lock up, freeze or pull the bar in and slam that puppy so hard that the earth shakes .

It amazes me how many people who call up for lessons just don't get it when I say that the focus of the first lesson in particular will be to develop kite skills and that before we continue to a large kitesurf kite it is in everyones best interests to develop auto skills on a trainer kite and that they can fly it by feel and fly aggresively and in control and that they will need to demonstrate this (and that they are free to borrow a trainer for a few days to do this or they can buy one and do it at their own leisure over a longer time period ). Many replies from the wannabe punk at the other end of the line "so I don't get to have a go at gettin goin on the water with a board in my first lesson" .MY reply NO....... BYE!!!

Why would companies plough more money into development of additional safeties when people don't even bother to get to know their own ones?

Fact: Most riders don't bother to try out their safety before they use a new kite
Fact: Most riders don't practice using their safety so when it comes to an incident, they probably won't react anyway
Fact: Most riders don't give a **** about the safety and wouldn't buy a kite that had a better safety unless it offered improvements in free spinning options or something they see daily benefit from like that.

Haha just read this in the LF 2008 kite manual. Word for word:

100 % DEPOWER SETUP
HAVOC, HIFI, SESSION

For 100% depower option for your leash, or to self land the
kite, or flag it out for any reason, your LF bar comes equipped
with outside line safety- oh **** handle.

In the diagramatics, the also refer to the HOLY SH...T front line ring and the HOLY SH...T back line ring

sir ROWDY said...

I agree.
It would be awesome if the only kites that existed still were 2 liners. The pussies would die or run off crying and only the sensible people that are worth having a chat with would be left kiting.

lol rowdy.

Harsh but true...