Does the tide effect wind?

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Supersane
Supersane
NSW
174 posts
NSW, 174 posts
20 Jan 2010 12:22pm
Don't know if anyone remembers but there was a post here a fair while back about how the tide or change of tide can effect the wind. I think it was something like it gets windier on an incoming tide as it brings cooler water closer to shore.

When this was mentioned to a metocean modeller at work they wern't convinced and said that the tide would only have a minimal effect (if any) on the wind.

Does anyone remember the details of the tide theory or have a link to the origninal post?

Cheers

Jimmy

teako
teako
VIC
37 posts
VIC, 37 posts
20 Jan 2010 12:56pm
Id be more inclined to think that the wind had an effect on the tides slightly
Elroy Jetson
Elroy Jetson
WA
706 posts
WA, 706 posts
20 Jan 2010 11:43am
I doubt the small tides near Perth would have any noticable effect on the wind.

The wind however has a significant effect on the recorded tide.

www.transport.wa.gov.au/imarine/19273.asp

The tide can be predicted many years in advance by calculating the position of the moon and sun relative to a place on the earth. However local weather conditions can not be predicted so far in advance.

One would see many local reefs protruding above the ocean when a strong offshore combines with a predicted low tide.

The opposite happens with a storm surge: When a strong winter storm combines with a predicted high tide the recorded tide has been close to 2m.


It may be worth investigating (googling) the effect large tides that happen in the northern part of Australia have on local wind conditions. The volume of water that these tides move around is staggering.
waxman
waxman
SA
1390 posts
SA, 1390 posts
20 Jan 2010 2:42pm
In whyalla we have a fairly large tide and it does bring in the wind when there is a seabreeze forcast. and on a regular day that is windy the wind will pick up in the first 2 hrs of the incoming tide and then die off after that. A seabreeze on a dodge or bad tide will never be as strong in whyalla. I dont know why but thats just the way it seems.
JayP
JayP
QLD
249 posts
QLD, 249 posts
20 Jan 2010 2:29pm
In Port Moresby, the wind is always stronger on incoming tides, The wind will also ease off during the change of tides.
gesper
gesper
NSW
518 posts
NSW, 518 posts
20 Jan 2010 5:35pm
Heres the link to when it was discussed before www.seabreeze.com.au/Forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=40566 It seems that the incoming tide brings in colder water, which in turn causes a larger temperature difference between land and sea which increases the strength of the seabreeze. As for how much the wind increases because of this it would be very difficult to measure
Supersane
Supersane
NSW
174 posts
NSW, 174 posts
20 Jan 2010 6:28pm
Cheers teabaggin that's the thread...
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