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Created by pgc A week ago, 12 Jun 2017
pgc
VIC, 734 posts
12 Jun 2017 10:46AM
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EWAN FIRST IN THE TRIPLE S AND MANNY BISSCHOP 12 IN THE OPEN FOIL WORLDS. JAMES STORM AND KEAHI STARTING THE WAVE COMP NEXT MONTH. AUSSIES BLASTING ON THE WORLD STAGE.

wishy
WA, 1146 posts
12 Jun 2017 8:40PM
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Ewan's instructional videos are great for trying to figure out how he does all that stuff.

Zebra80
NSW, 189 posts
14 Jun 2017 2:31PM
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Good stuff and good luck for the boys overseas
Just wandering what is the the support that this athletes get from Kiteboarding Australia ???
Where is the National wave comp to select the athletes that are going to represent the country in this overseas competitions .

dusta
WA, 2836 posts
14 Jun 2017 2:10PM
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Zebra80 said..
Good stuff and good luck for the boys overseas
Just wandering what is the the support that this athletes get from Kiteboarding Australia ???
Where is the National wave comp to select the athletes that are going to represent the country in this overseas competitions .


you couldn't just leave it at Congratulations could you lolorro .

Ozone Kites Aus
NSW, 506 posts
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14 Jun 2017 8:00PM
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Zebra80 said..
Good stuff and good luck for the boys overseas
Just wandering what is the the support that this athletes get from Kiteboarding Australia ???
Where is the National wave comp to select the athletes that are going to represent the country in this overseas competitions .


The events you are referring to are privately run events, and individuals are either invited or choose to attend. They make their own choice Leo. They are not representing Australia in any official sense or capacity, its all for personal reasons.

We will be having a national wave comp this year, in Merrimbula, at the Classic. But winning there will not get you entry into any event overseas, because there is not event that holds itself up as the "world" event, and certainly none that has enough support to fund invites from every country.

Your questions are all a bit like Michael Caton in The Castle.


wdric
NSW, 1607 posts
14 Jun 2017 9:04PM
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Zebra80 said..
Good stuff and good luck for the boys overseas
Just wandering what is the the support that this athletes get from Kiteboarding Australia ???
Where is the National wave comp to select the athletes that are going to represent the country in this overseas competitions .


You will need to get some sponsorship from ""OnESeLf"
I have been to a few events OS and found ""OnESeLf" to be very good at supporting my lifstyle"OnESeLf" works very hard throughout the year and generously donates some funds to support my myselfSometimes I request support by "OnESeLf", but declines my proposal and I have to go without.Currently I am in one of those sponsorship droughts as "OnESeLf" is building a house and has been crying poor and hard done by!

Zebra80
NSW, 189 posts
Thursday , 15 Jun 2017 1:00PM
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Is not for me but for the future generations...That is what I was expecting kite boarding Australia doesn't do anything? for there athletes that are going overseas represent the Country true ????

Zebra80
NSW, 189 posts
Thursday , 15 Jun 2017 10:35PM
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New video coming soon at Cannal off tv channel in Brazil www.instagram.com/p/BVXCaStgz8a/

Gnarloo such a great spot ...
whynot do a comp there ????

Underoath
QLD, 2221 posts
Thursday , 16 Jun 2017 12:50AM
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Gnarloo.

Hahaha at who's expense?

You going to personally sponsor all the riders to the most remote kiting location in Australia??

Or should KA sponsor a select few (5 or 6) with our membership money??

You know there are no shops within hours right?

Who is going to pick up the bill when someone gets their head caved in on the reef.

You good rider- no good economics.....

Zebra80
NSW, 189 posts
Friday , 16 Jun 2017 7:04AM
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Underoath said..
Gnarloo.

Hahaha at who's expense?

You going to personally sponsor all the riders to the most remote kiting location in Australia??

Or should KA sponsor a select few (5 or 6) with our membership money??

You know there are no shops within hours right?

Who is going to pick up the bill when someone gets their head caved in on the reef.

You good rider- no good economics.....




Yes mate just for hardcore soul kiters
Nice trip I love that spot perfect conditions good waves cross of definitely not for @#$&_ like you








Yes mate just for hardcore soul kiters
Nice trip I love that spot perfect conditions good waves cross of definitely not for @#$&_ like you

towradgi
NSW, 139 posts
Friday , 16 Jun 2017 8:48AM
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Gnarloo is a great idea and worth considering. K.A does represent all states equally. How many eastcoasters go to Kitefest and cauncys new Gero comp ? And W.A guys come to Merimbula?.Australia is too big. Yet alot of kiters are well travelled O.S...Mauritaus..Indo..Mexico..Lakey..Cloudbreak..etc..so whats the big deal? Only the guys who think they will win will go anyway..less than 20 for all categories.Merimbula is so convenient coz the contestants are there anyway for Mambo,but riding 2 to 3 feet beachy where everyone looks the same is disappointing but you do get a result.

dusta
WA, 2836 posts
Friday , 16 Jun 2017 11:18AM
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Is not for me but for the future generations...That is what I was expecting kite boarding Australia doesn't do anything? for there athletes that are going overseas represent the Country true ????


what kiting event around the world is run purely as a world event with riders representing their country ? ..............................................................


That's right none , it's called the olympics LOLORRO and that's happening soon . every other single event is the rider representing themselves and nothing more .

clueless sh!t troll you are

Zebra80
NSW, 189 posts
Saturday , 17 Jun 2017 7:57AM
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Not Yet but they will in the future
Sorry Dusta what ever is your name One thing that I know is that Kiteboarding Australia doesn't give any support for the Athletes
My friend just went over seas
For a hang-gliding competition all payed for the Australian hang_glidding federation and is a very small Sport and is not going to be in the Olympics .
They must be doing something Wright
My question is
what does Kiteboarding Australia doing to support there athletes overseas ????
That is for the future generations not for me
I Reckon that KA is more interested in the big Brands making money selling kites then represent the Athletes and make this Sport grow


Underoath
QLD, 2221 posts
Saturday , 17 Jun 2017 12:40PM
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I suggest you take up hang gliding, & spend time on their forums.

Zebra80
NSW, 189 posts
Monday , 19 Jun 2017 8:45AM
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I suggest you take up hang gliding, & spend time on their forums.

Because guys like underoath
Kiteboarding is not growing like they predicted .....maybe we can change that just need to have a stronger
Federation where the people involved in it have no interest in the Brand's but the main interest is the athletes and the sport to grow

djdojo
VIC, 1416 posts
Monday , 19 Jun 2017 10:49AM
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Dude, enough of the hijacking already.

Second, not everyone wants this sport to grow. I mean how many times do you rock up at the beach and think, "If only there were more kiters out." I know my favourite sessions are solo sessions or with just a few other decent riders. If a few kids can scrape a living competing then great, good for them, but I'm not going to try to subsidise it by getting more people kiting - enough GoPro tragics on the water already.

4XL
WA, 209 posts
Monday , 19 Jun 2017 9:52AM
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Do you have evidence that KA only likes or supports the big brands? Or is this another factless statement by the I'll informed. . . .

GMkal
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Monday , 19 Jun 2017 10:02AM
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pgc said..
EWAN FIRST IN THE TRIPLE S AND MANNY BISSCHOP 12 IN THE OPEN FOIL WORLDS. JAMES STORM AND KEAHI STARTING THE WAVE COMP NEXT MONTH. AUSSIES BLASTING ON THE WORLD STAGE.


Stoked for them all doing so well overseas - pretty epic!

dusta
WA, 2836 posts
Tuesday , 20 Jun 2017 2:07PM
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Zebra80 said..
Not Yet but they will in the future
Sorry Dusta what ever is your name One thing that I know is that Kiteboarding Australia doesn't give any support for the Athletes
My friend just went over seas
For a hang-gliding competition all payed for the Australian hang_glidding federation and is a very small Sport and is not going to be in the Olympics .
They must be doing something Wright
My question is
what does Kiteboarding Australia doing to support there athletes overseas ????
That is for the future generations not for me
I Reckon that KA is more interested in the big Brands making money selling kites then represent the Athletes and make this Sport grow




i think you're just a bitter balding wannabe keahi who is so angry he wasn't flown around the world .

dusta
WA, 2836 posts
Tuesday , 20 Jun 2017 2:09PM
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Underoath said..
I suggest you take up hang gliding, & spend time on their forums.


Because guys like underoath
Kiteboarding is not growing like they predicted .....maybe we can change that just need to have a stronger
Federation where the people involved in it have no interest in the Brand's but the main interest is the athletes and the sport to grow


are you running for the next KA president lolorro, pay's not that great and you get to deal with muppets like yourself. I'm curious for someone so vocal what have you put back into the community to grow out of your own pocket ?

hammo
WA, 27 posts
Tuesday , 20 Jun 2017 8:19PM
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Zebra80 said..
Not Yet but they will in the future
Sorry Dusta what ever is your name One thing that I know is that Kiteboarding Australia doesn't give any support for the Athletes
My friend just went over seas
For a hang-gliding competition all payed for the Australian hang_glidding federation and is a very small Sport and is not going to be in the Olympics .
They must be doing something Wright
My question is
what does Kiteboarding Australia doing to support there athletes overseas ????
That is for the future generations not for me
I Reckon that KA is more interested in the big Brands making money selling kites then represent the Athletes and make this Sport grow




I think Leo has a valid point. KA has a very clear and available 'strategic' plan on its website, drafted at considerable expense in 2013. There's 4 pages outlining how and why Kiteboarding needs to become a National Sporting Organisation (NSO) so that it can build its profile and attract government funding. There was a deadline of January 31, 2014 on this. Has anything happened?

Kiteboard racing has really taken off especially in Perth. Can this success be attributed to the affiliation with Yachting Australia which incidentally has NSO status. Are Racing events funded and are riders supported because of this?

On the Freestyle and Wave events side of things , Kiteboarding needs to attract funding from other sources so that the burden does not land on the shops and kite 'brands'. Australia is a 'huge' country so travel to interstate events is expensive and very prohibitive. I can guarantee you won't get many of the WA wave riders to Merimbula because its just too difficult and expensive to get there. If funding was available maybe the WA attendance would be different. WA holds some fantastic wave events and if funding was available maybe there would be more Eastern States attendance ??

Lets hope that KA secures NSO recognition soon, as Kitesurfing really does need a boost!


GMkal
39 posts
Wednesday , 21 Jun 2017 10:42AM
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hammo said..

Zebra80 said..
Not Yet but they will in the future
Sorry Dusta what ever is your name One thing that I know is that Kiteboarding Australia doesn't give any support for the Athletes
My friend just went over seas
For a hang-gliding competition all payed for the Australian hang_glidding federation and is a very small Sport and is not going to be in the Olympics .
They must be doing something Wright
My question is
what does Kiteboarding Australia doing to support there athletes overseas ????
That is for the future generations not for me
I Reckon that KA is more interested in the big Brands making money selling kites then represent the Athletes and make this Sport grow





I think Leo has a valid point. KA has a very clear and available 'strategic' plan on its website, drafted at considerable expense in 2013. There's 4 pages outlining how and why Kiteboarding needs to become a National Sporting Organisation (NSO) so that it can build its profile and attract government funding. There was a deadline of January 31, 2014 on this. Has anything happened?

Kiteboard racing has really taken off especially in Perth. Can this success be attributed to the affiliation with Yachting Australia which incidentally has NSO status. Are Racing events funded and are riders supported because of this?

On the Freestyle and Wave events side of things , Kiteboarding needs to attract funding from other sources so that the burden does not land on the shops and kite 'brands'. Australia is a 'huge' country so travel to interstate events is expensive and very prohibitive. I can guarantee you won't get many of the WA wave riders to Merimbula because its just too difficult and expensive to get there. If funding was available maybe the WA attendance would be different. WA holds some fantastic wave events and if funding was available maybe there would be more Eastern States attendance ??

Lets hope that KA secures NSO recognition soon, as Kitesurfing really does need a boost!




Hi Hammo

Thanks for the interesting question - KA does not have NSO status still (THIS IS FRUSTRATING!). We have been working on it and are unfortunately are continually being thwarted by the fact that at the moment the Australian Sports Commission chooses to follow international structures and only recognise Australian Sailing who ostensibly include kiteboarding as a wind/water sport. This has been fairly intractable and hard to move.

We are trying to come up with some more creative solutions:
1. Getting Australian Sailing on board to do development work in kiteboarding. We have some movement there despite the fact that they have had really unsettled leadership so seem to have stagnated in the last 2 - 4 years. We had meetings as recently as this week to get firmer commitments on this front.
2. Supporting states to get state sporting (or recreation) organisation recognition. While this may seem weird there is actually some prospect of getting ground up recognition where state sport and recreation departments are more willing to invest in sports that have broad community value but no real high performance (here we're talking Olympic) focus.

Regarding supporting events through corporate sponsors it is definitely a focus and something we are working on - the question is how we provide value to those partners in a sustainable fashion. Sponsorship money from corporates for small (non-broadcasted) sports is famously difficult but with a creative approach I think we will see a diversification of our income over the coming years.

Funding for individual riders is a strategic question that hasn't really come up to be honest, we are more focused on trying to support quality events in a diverse range of locations due to the potential return for the community being greater. We are also focused on getting prize money at events that might encourage top riders to travel.

This is my long winded way of saying we are working on it and nothing is a silver bullet - more members, providing schools with accreditation, sponsorships, government grants, support from Australian Sailing, State Sporting recognition and more will all go towards giving kiteboarding a boost.

If anyone has any ideas we're always open to motivated volunteers getting involved (the organisation survives with one modestly paid employee and many many volunteers), or even just to connect potential partners or interesting ideas.

Cheers

Alex
contact@kiteboardingaus.com

dusta
WA, 2836 posts
Wednesday , 21 Jun 2017 11:55AM
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GMkal said..



If anyone has any ideas we're always open to motivated volunteers getting involved (the organisation survives with one modestly paid employee and many many volunteers), or even just to connect potential partners or interesting ideas.

Cheers

Alex
contact@kiteboardingaus.com


Alex i suggest getting in contact with zebra80/leolorro/whatever , he seems to have so much to say and no doubt is willing to give up some of his time for the betterment of the sport

Tractorguy
QLD, 508 posts
Wednesday , 21 Jun 2017 6:29PM
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pgc said..
EWAN FIRST IN THE TRIPLE S AND MANNY BISSCHOP 12 IN THE OPEN FOIL WORLDS. JAMES STORM AND KEAHI STARTING THE WAVE COMP NEXT MONTH. AUSSIES BLASTING ON THE WORLD STAGE.


awesome news good to c home grown talent getting into it and doing well.
Aw and brazilnuts start your own miserable what about me thread pls

bjw
NSW, 2226 posts
6 hours ago , 22 Jun 2017 5:37PM
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wdric said..You will need to get some sponsorship from ""OnESeLf"
I have been to a few events OS and found ""OnESeLf" to be very good at supporting my lifstyle"OnESeLf" works very hard throughout the year and generously donates some funds to support my myselfSometimes I request support by "OnESeLf", but declines my proposal and I have to go without.Currently I am in one of those sponsorship droughts as "OnESeLf" is building a house and has been crying poor and hard done by!


OnESeLf = Your wife?

Careful, Leo would be super keen for that sponsor!



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