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BennyB12
BennyB12
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21 Jan 2012 7:24am
Hey noob groovers,
Ive got a mate thats been kiting for over a year and still not up and riding.
Hes had lessons and now hes just bein a wuss.
So if youve had your lessons and youve got your gear then its time to just get out there.
The only way to get anything out of kiting now is to live it all the way.
You have to make some sacrifices(friends, family, relationships and sometimes work) but they will have to understand.(or start kiting)
If your still a bit scared,good, get out there.
If you think its a bit strong, depower, and get out there.
You will get nowhere with your kiting if you wait for the ample conditions that come round now and then.
Im not advocating throwin a 12 up in 35 plus, if youve had your lessons you will know why thats not a good idea, but definately get out of your comfort zone.
It wont be the last time.
Go hard noobs, live the kite dream and soon enough it will be second nature and you will reap the rewards.
Let the palm trees be your guide.
Oi,
BennyB
Gfresh
Gfresh
QLD
37 posts
QLD, 37 posts
21 Jan 2012 9:24am
I agree 100%, and also have a similar situation with a mate that will wait 6 months for the absolute perfect conditions. Although in one sence i can respect his decision to not put him self in risky situation ,i still feel sometimes jumping in the deep end can be the only way to learn how to swim.
stuntnaz
stuntnaz
NSW
540 posts
NSW, 540 posts
21 Jan 2012 10:30am
Bennyb12 is right i would get worried going out in anything over 20 knots even after 8 months of kiting until one day i just sucked it up and and made my self go out, with a little encouragement from my mates . Now i love it and i find myself watching the wind every second of the day ,my girlfriend thinks in obsessed with kite surfing well i am and i love it .
LostinSpace
LostinSpace
QLD
388 posts
QLD, 388 posts
21 Jan 2012 10:21am
I will 2nd all of the above, GO HARD NOOOOOOOOOBS
LostinSpace
LostinSpace
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21 Jan 2012 10:24am
LostinSpace said...

I will 2nd all of the above, GO HARD NOOOOOOOOOBS


Or a D.A.R.R.E.N sais, CHARGING MY LAZERRRRRRRS
NoBS
NoBS
WA
908 posts
WA, 908 posts
21 Jan 2012 9:27am
BennyB12 said...

Hey noob groovers,
Ive got a mate thats been kiting for over a year and still not up and riding.
Hes had lessons and now hes just bein a wuss.
So if youve had your lessons and youve got your gear then its time to just get out there.
The only way to get anything out of kiting now is to live it all the way.
You have to make some sacrifices(friends, family, relationships and sometimes work) but they will have to understand.(or start kiting)
If your still a bit scared,good, get out there.
If you think its a bit strong, depower, and get out there.
You will get nowhere with your kiting if you wait for the ample conditions that come round now and then.
Im not advocating throwin a 12 up in 35 plus, if youve had your lessons you will know why thats not a good idea, but definately get out of your comfort zone.
It wont be the last time.
Go hard noobs, live the kite dream and soon enough it will be second nature and you will reap the rewards.
Let the palm trees be your guide.
Oi,
BennyB




right on newbs..

Embrace your bucket hats
Maximise you pooh stance
Be proud of your board leashes
Put on the 3/2 full length wetsuit
Fear not the walk back from struggle street downwind
A 12m is fine in 25+ knots
Pull in your bar one handed whilst launching

But most of all......

The only way you will improve is through long days on the water and doing yourself damage and injuries.
windangoesoff
windangoesoff
NSW
280 posts
NSW, 280 posts
21 Jan 2012 2:19pm
what a wuss !
slothful1
slothful1
4 posts
4 posts
21 Jan 2012 11:39am
Hi ya'll, I'm one the aforementioned "noobs". I completed my lesons in october, I made no excuses and went out at any oppurtunity, even when I should have been working sometimes. It was daunting at first and I thought the walk of shame was going to be with me for a long time.

I put in as many hours on the water as possible, not that it was work, I frickin' love being on the water regardless, I'm now way upwind in ugly botany chop, jumping (terribly), gybing with ease and speed and very rarely does the kite fall in the water. Only problem is, instead of waking up and thinking about what I need to do for work, I wake up planning my next sesh !. Get out there and one day it will click, be careful though, once it clicks theres no turning back!
jplmain
jplmain
26 posts
26 posts
21 Jan 2012 12:28pm
Noobe's first post.
Yes, two months now, had three lessons. First month just body dragging. Into my second month still making attempts to stand. Every day when the winds are up I make at least one attempt a day and then go home and think why I couldn't stay up. I think this third month is the month I will do it at least one way up wind.
Wish me luck.
Maybe I am average, if not, then I don't care. Its the journey that counts and the new friends I meet, on the beach, that really want to help out.
Thanks Benny.
Silence
Silence
NSW
123 posts
NSW, 123 posts
21 Jan 2012 5:57pm
I am a nervous noob.. but I'm nervous because there's not enough wind, damn! Where's the seabreeze?????
Big eeeZeee
Big eeeZeee
NSW
1100 posts
NSW, 1100 posts
21 Jan 2012 9:54pm
keep your kite low noobs
thedrip
thedrip
WA
2355 posts
WA, 2355 posts
22 Jan 2012 12:33am
I try.
1st session after lesson - not enough wind and the steering lines don't work. Bar flops harmlessly back onto my harness.
2nd session - snap clip that holds harness down before I even unpack the kite. Three days before Christmas and I wait until the following Friday before it arrives.
3rd session - 25 knots cross-onshore (good), go to a new place. Shallow reef 100 metres upwind, narrow beach (less than the length of kite lines) to launch from ruling out self lauching, gusty, experienced kitesurfers tell me not to go out. All bad. Watch forlornly instead. I had a 9 and they were all on 5, 6, or 7. Nervous now.
4th session - drive 100kms south as the wind is looking good and strong. 3 km off road track which is a fair bit of low range 1st gear rockin n rollin. Get to the beach. Wind is cross offshore, not cross onshore and I am not stupid enough to think I can get back to shore by myself (I am the only one on the beach).
5th session - cross onshore on a different beach. Internet is telling me 15-18 knots. Surely enough? Get to the beach and launch. Steering lines still useless and bar still retracting to my harness without any power. Try to self land, use IDS, kite flops into the shore break as I couldn't get it to the edge of the wind window without steering. Walk up the lines to get the kite. Look down. Most of the 15m of four lines is a birds nest at my feet. Spend the next hour and a half slowly - so slowly, excruciatingly slowly - unpicking the tangle. I only scream once.

On top of all this the wind season has been one of the dodgiest for a while. I surf and this time of year arvo surfs are normally off limiits because of the 25 knot onshore seabreeze. I have been getting lots of arvo surfs in 10 knot onshores.

I would love to throw myself in the deep end, but I just seem to pick the wrong conditions or do something dumb. It is windy the next two days, and I will be trying again.
BurkeyBoy
BurkeyBoy
QLD
549 posts
QLD, 549 posts
22 Jan 2012 7:13am
A mate has recently started and is staying upwind no worries after just a few sessions. There is also another local who shows up occasionally and flaps about in the water for 10 mins before packing up because conditions aren't good. He's been doing this for over 4 years now and still can't get up on the board!
BennyB12
BennyB12
QLD
918 posts
QLD, 918 posts
22 Jan 2012 8:06am
Hey the drip,
That sounds alot like my first few sessions, but i had a 2 line kite and the leash was a piece of elastic attatched to my wrist and to one of the lines!!!
It may feel pointless and frustrating but you are learning a little something everytime, even if you think your not.
Wind direction on what beach, kite flying skills in different conditions and even that seabreeze graphs sometimes are not totally reliable(hey laurie)
This is all good stuff to know and makes you a better kiter.
Wont be long now till your the dude on the beach givin out the advice and savin someone else from a career ending kitemare...
Keep at it bud, the rewards are worth it...
thedrip
thedrip
WA
2355 posts
WA, 2355 posts
22 Jan 2012 11:52am
BennyB12 said...

Hey the drip,
That sounds alot like my first few sessions, but i had a 2 line kite and the leash was a piece of elastic attatched to my wrist and to one of the lines!!!
It may feel pointless and frustrating but you are learning a little something everytime, even if you think your not.
Wind direction on what beach, kite flying skills in different conditions and even that seabreeze graphs sometimes are not totally reliable(hey laurie)
This is all good stuff to know and makes you a better kiter.
Wont be long now till your the dude on the beach givin out the advice and savin someone else from a career ending kitemare...
Keep at it bud, the rewards are worth it...

Thanks for the encouragement. I know it will be worth it because i have lost count the amount of times I have done a late season trip to up north to surf, had the wind come in while out there, and then watched the kiters ripping it up and unable to get a wave in. I figured it looked like so much fun I might as well give it a go.

BennyB12
BennyB12
QLD
918 posts
QLD, 918 posts
22 Jan 2012 2:16pm
yea boi....
Gorgo
Gorgo
VIC
5124 posts
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22 Jan 2012 3:31pm
Big eeeZeee said...

keep your kite low noobs


Thing is, they're noobs. They can barely tell their arse from their elbow when it comes to a kite. If they bring their kite down low they're most likely to drop it in the water. If it's vertical they're probably stationary and wondering how the hell they get this thing to move in any direction.

Keep clear of the noobs experienced kiter. Go around again if they're blocking your access to the beach. Go and do your trick somewhere else. If they're stuck in the middle blocking all the fun, maybe go and help them to go somewhere else.

While we're at it, the nervous noobs are a bit of a worry. Less so if they're so nervous they don't even launch their kites.

I am more worried abou the not so nervous noobs. The older guy with no idea, with the 12m kite up in 25 knots, trying to water start when he can't even body drag the length of the beach without crashing, doing the slingshot of death as he crashes his kite on the water's edge.
Leroy B
Leroy B
WA
139 posts
WA, 139 posts
22 Jan 2012 1:24pm
Nice one B12 for starting one of the first refreshingly honest and positive threads for a while. Taking the elitism out of an awesome and accessible sport.

I met a guy on the beach last week and within a minute he told me 'Kiting changed my life'; I've done plenty of sports and never had this response, particularly within one minute of talking to a stranger.

Nice work noobs you are the future of the sport - go steady but GIVE IT A GO!


Lorgra
Lorgra
WA
215 posts
WA, 215 posts
22 Jan 2012 1:57pm
As a first year kiting I say yes.

Get out out their and "Just do it!"

Only have a 9m but kite as much as the wind will allow before it gets too strong for me.

Had a refresher lesson at the beginning of the the season after taking it up at the end of last season. 25knots on a 6m Ozone and got up straight away.

Improving little by little but loving it. When it's too strong to put up the 9m I sit there watching the other more experienced guys/gals and learn from them.

Looking at a 7m so I can get out there in 25+.

Good luck and don't be scared to ask questions of others!
djdojo
djdojo
VIC
1614 posts
VIC, 1614 posts
22 Jan 2012 6:03pm
As Gorgo said, better the nervous noob than the over-confident noob.
thedrip
thedrip
WA
2355 posts
WA, 2355 posts
22 Jan 2012 3:16pm
That's what I am worried about. I reckon I tend toward the overconfident noob as I have spent my whole life doing waterry things, am reasonably fit and tend to have a fair bit of confidence. All things that can lead me to get into trouble.
jwins
jwins
VIC
28 posts
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22 Jan 2012 6:33pm
Nice thread, BennyB12. Thanks for starting it. I used to be one of those nervous noobs, committed to other things and too scared to go out in anything over 20 knots, but last year I finally committed everything to it, took a few "brave" pills, and jumped right in. Now, I'm staying upwind, doing smooth transitions and starting to put together some longish toeside runs. Soon, I will be jumping at last...

Little did I know that it was mostly fear, and not a lack of talent, that was holding me back.

This is a great message (but, it should go without saying that bravery is no substitute for learning proper safety skills, knowing how to use your safeties when it all goes pear-shaped (and it will) and applying a bit of common sense...)
AngryKoala
AngryKoala
NSW
42 posts
NSW, 42 posts
22 Jan 2012 6:49pm
Also trying to get a mate up and running. Where should he kite on Central Coast NSW while learning? Btw he is an X windsurfer and has taken lessons.

Grant
tezza02
tezza02
QLD
73 posts
QLD, 73 posts
22 Jan 2012 7:07pm
yea great read throughout thread,started myself 8 months ago,persisted through winter (Brisbane)payed of big time now kiteing in 25 -35 knts ,just had last 3 days in surf at Straddie ,can not agree more just get out there,but keep it safe.....[:)

tezzza
Peterc150
Peterc150
VIC
710 posts
VIC, 710 posts
22 Jan 2012 11:04pm
There is a balance between giving it a go an being a wuss. Safety must comes first.

Watching others is a great thing for Nervous Noobs to do.

Look at how big the kites are. Talk to other kiters and get their advice.

Watch how they leave the beach and get going. Watch how they slow down by pushing out the bar.

If there is nobody else out, don't go out. If everyone is flying a 10 or smaller in 25+ knots, don't put up your 12 or 14 (even depowered).

And NEVER use a board leash (until experienced and then only optionally in surf).
harry potter
harry potter
VIC
2777 posts
VIC, 2777 posts
23 Jan 2012 1:08am
Soak up the love noobs !






...Because you won't be noobs forever !!
puppetonastring
puppetonastring
WA
3619 posts
WA, 3619 posts
22 Jan 2012 10:25pm
+1 from me too Benny. Great thread.
Luckily these days the only fear noobs need face is a bit of that normal anxiety most ppl experience of the 'unknown'.
If you have done your lessons (supposing they were good ones) and you are full bottle on depowering and QR's; have been taught to get off the beach and into the water (the beach is ALWAYS the most dangerous place to kite for all of us) then kiting today does not pose any real likelihood of danger.
So get out there. Face the fear - its mostly unfounded & soon to disappear.

I remember back 'in the day' when it really was more likely a matter of 'get hurt' than not. I came down for my 1st session after my 1st winter break only to find I was petrified of launching that viscous beast.
After a long period of encouragement from some great mates; then coming down to a mental ultimatum "OK Phil. Its either do it now or go home & sell all your gear"
NO WAY - that tipped the balance. I launched it and within 2 minutes was screaming (again) with the rush.
Greatest sport on earth.
DONT HOLD BACK
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23690 posts
WA, 23690 posts
22 Jan 2012 11:10pm
I love the fact that in this forum nobody is a noob and everyone is so fkn hardcore.

Core to the core.

Everytime a noob extends himself and gets a facedrag there is threads about how fkd they are and safety is out the window and "guess what this loser did today at my local"

kaleidoscope
kaleidoscope
NSW
132 posts
NSW, 132 posts
23 Jan 2012 2:36pm
Great post! I was the one that was tentative in heading out of my comfort zone. Made it so much easier to go upwind with more pressure, had a few worse stacks but that's all part of it. Apparently you don't change direction with the kite well before you start to turn the board

Know where your safety is and how to use it and you'll be fine.
BennyB12
BennyB12
QLD
918 posts
QLD, 918 posts
23 Jan 2012 1:56pm
Mark _australia said...

I love the fact that in this forum nobody is a noob and everyone is so fkn hardcore.

Core to the core.

Everytime a noob extends himself and gets a facedrag there is threads about how fkd they are and safety is out the window and "guess what this loser did today at my local"



Way to bring negative to a generally positive thread.
Dont you have a caption comp to attend to?
dbabicwa
dbabicwa
WA
809 posts
WA, 809 posts
23 Jan 2012 12:42pm
thedrip said...


Most of the 15m of four lines is a birds nest at my feet. Spend the next hour and a half slowly - so slowly, excruciatingly slowly - unpicking the tangle. I only scream once.


You might invest in a spare bar! Or two kites with the similar bar!
If tangled, a quick bar change and all good

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