Fuel, Vegas, Boxer or Spitfire?

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Dolphinkite
Dolphinkite
WA
7 posts
WA, 7 posts
26 Dec 2004 5:41am
Hi All,
I am looking for a good forgiving alrounder, med/low aspect kite.
If anyone has experience with one of those kites above, I wouls appreciate some comments.
hirschausen
hirschausen
WA
422 posts
WA, 422 posts
26 Dec 2004 8:28am
Vegas, Fuel and Boxer I have tried out but all in diferent sizes so it's not a fair comparison.
Vegas is really stable and easy to use, as is the Boxer, the Fuel I found to be a bit quicker through the air, not twitchy but certainly different. If looking for a really stable kite I would recommend the other two I have mentioned With the Fuel, Slingshot has the Diesel to cover the market you are refering to.
Airush Flow is also well worth a look.
Try them out if you can, I'm sure there's guys out there at your local spot who can give you a quick run after seeing you kite?.
Right fellas/ladies?
Hurrah
Hurrah
NSW
382 posts
NSW, 382 posts
26 Dec 2004 2:42pm
You should consider the Windwing rage 2 also. Bet you can get that for less than any of the kites you mentioned.

I'm converted.
Gone to dark side
Gone to dark side
NSW
394 posts
NSW, 394 posts
26 Dec 2004 7:21pm
I have the spitfires 12m mark 1 and the 16m mark 2 Happy with both good wind range and very good in gusty conditions can look up kitefourm on page 2 or 3 buy now they have some 28 comments on the new spitfire and can contact Lee at cautionkites.com.au I am in Sydney if you whonted a go.

Dark side
bondo
bondo
QLD
699 posts
QLD, 699 posts
26 Dec 2004 11:32pm

the spitfires are great all rounders...

I have a 12 and 16 - the 12 is by far the standout, nice and quick, great upwind and big boosts. the 16 is lower aspect, has more downwind pull but is quite fast on the turn for a biggish kite

the 05 kites have a new bar with spinning leash - but now that 05's are out you could maybe get some sweet deals on the 04 kites, which are killer.
Dolphinkite
Dolphinkite
WA
7 posts
WA, 7 posts
27 Dec 2004 6:12am
Thanks for the post.
I never heard bad news about the fuel except valves can pop open. Apart from that everyone is happy with it.
But can it be flown with a 5'th line?
Some people call the boxer twichy, don't know what that means.
In my local shop the (torch rider) said if you can't fly the Torch, you can't fly the Vegas. From the info about the Vegas I collected this seems not quite right.
Is the Vegas as easy to fly like the Boxer?
Kitehard
Kitehard
WA
2782 posts
WA, 2782 posts
27 Dec 2004 8:20am
Hey Dolphinkite,

I strongly recommend checking out the Airush Flow 2005 kites. Totally awesome for what you want to do, just ask anyone riding this years Flows.

Cheers and happy hunting
kk
kk
WA
953 posts
kk kk
WA, 953 posts
27 Dec 2004 5:48pm
Yeah yeah... A mate of mine just bought a 12m 2005 model (flow) ripped the wing tip through the reinforced section on his second use.. I sugeested he send it in for warranty staight away... He didn't like the answer he got... Stick with my fuels thanks
dachopper
dachopper
WA
1806 posts
WA, 1806 posts
27 Dec 2004 7:37pm
but..... consider when you buy , unless your a numpty, you will be able to fly any kite you buy, the limitation will be what you can do with the kite...if you buy a beginner kite, low aspect, youll get low aspect performance.... if you buy somethingy that is " harder to fly" after using it 10 times you'll love it and it will be easy for you to fly, as they are all only hard when you first use them anyhow.....
just food for thought
puppetonastring
puppetonastring
WA
3619 posts
WA, 3619 posts
28 Dec 2004 10:50am
Not sure where dolphinkite is at ? but I have to strongly disagree with dachopper UNLESS you are past the first kite stage.
IMO you will advance through all the initial frustrating stages much faster on the fattest, low aspect kite you can get your hands on. The performance advantages of an advanced kite will not only be useless to you until you are able to use them competently but will actually work against you when all you need is time up on your board. Low aspect offers stability, steadier responsiveness, easier relaunch etc etc all of which will give you more time up & practicing rather than down & swimming & walking. You will shorten and enjoy the learning curve more and there will always be a new newbie out there well served & grateful to take your 1st kite off your hands when your ready to move on - sooner
Dachoppers advice is probably spot on from then on
Thats what I reckon anyway

"He who enjoys most - WINS"
kiterdan
kiterdan
WA
680 posts
WA, 680 posts
28 Dec 2004 11:05am
Also, just because someone is progressing to an 'intermediate' or 'expert' stage doesnt necessarily mean that they should move on to a high aspect or high performance kite. Many of the pro riders today fly mid-low aspect ratio kites.
Kitehard
Kitehard
WA
2782 posts
WA, 2782 posts
28 Dec 2004 3:57pm
Hey guys,

Dan is too correct! Aspect ratio or kite speed is not a measure of your kiting ability.

You chose the kite which suits the riding style you prefer. Lower aspect kites like Flows are becoming the kiters choice because they are good for a lot of different styles and rock in the waves.

It's not what you got, it's how you use it! Ignore the hype!
dachopper
dachopper
WA
1806 posts
WA, 1806 posts
28 Dec 2004 9:40pm
your missing my point i guess.... was just trying to say that there's not too much point going straight to a low aspect kite just because your a beginner,if thats what you want then thats ok..... i no ppl that have learned very quickly on high aspect kites only with zero kiting/boarding experience....IMO i would have been better off myself buying my first kite based on what i wanted to do with it after i became compenant...instead i got a beginner kite which wouldn't go upwind, but had awesome relaunch , when i finally changed to a decent kite, it was miles easier.....
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