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poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
WA, 9106 posts
1 May 2007 10:02am
It seems the poleys are well organized this winter for a GPS speed thingo

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=40

Wondering if there are any kiter's around that might be interested in setting something similar up ??
GreenPat
GreenPat
QLD
4107 posts
QLD, 4107 posts
1 May 2007 12:22pm
Yes! Where do we get flat water in a Westerly in Perth though?

I think the guys in Namibia were working on an artificial speed strip at one stage, don't know what came of that. Unless it was just talk at the bar there, they don't really need it with the setup they've got.

Anyway I start a FIFO (Fly In - Fly Out for the uninitiated) roster next week for three months, I will have a bit of break time to look at locations, virtual gates, gear, software, web presence...

Ultimately I'd like to return to Namibia for the speedweek one year to compete, although they don't get the results GPS sailors get it's a more talked about world record, plus they pour a mean jaegermeister...
poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
WA, 9106 posts
1 May 2007 10:30am
In a westerly, ooooo river/attadale foreshore, though its pretty gusty, the pond at safety bay, or mandurah estuary.
Not a huge choice, but still not bad.

If we get enough interest i am happy to co-ordinate something....
GreenPat
GreenPat
QLD
4107 posts
QLD, 4107 posts
1 May 2007 12:47pm
We need at least a 500m strip with reasonably flat water and run-in/run-out areas. This looks ok as long as it doesn't get too choppy on the South end.



Woodies would be great in the Southerly, but the traffic there..?

I might get onto the poleys and see if they've got any virtual gate setups anywhere around we could 'borrow'. But I better get some paying work done first, bad seabreeze...

poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
WA, 9106 posts
1 May 2007 11:12am
1km flat water run, but gusty
www.seabreeze.com.au/gallery/gallery.asp?imageid=4287
Spacemonkey!
Spacemonkey!
SA
2288 posts
SA, 2288 posts
1 May 2007 1:16pm
I would be interested to set something up and the spot on a southerly... or at safety bay.
Blaster
Blaster
WA
501 posts
WA, 501 posts
1 May 2007 12:56pm
Penguin island SW wind on extreme low tide at . Wind is consistent and when the sandbar is exposed the water is dead flat. Only problem would be length of run. I think it's shorter than 500 meters.

Just a thought
meerkat
meerkat
WA
644 posts
WA, 644 posts
1 May 2007 4:08pm
so thats where all the water from the de-salination plant is going, straight to the biggest mutha farker swimming pool they could build.
jjd
jjd
WA
705 posts
jjd jjd
WA, 705 posts
1 May 2007 4:59pm
Hey Ao,

I notice in your profile you have put Waroora as your favourite spot. Also looks like you have The Lagoon as your avatar.

Just wondering, have you kited at Waroora?
GreenPat
GreenPat
QLD
4107 posts
QLD, 4107 posts
1 May 2007 7:54pm
Yo ao,

I don't know about the poleboarders but with speed kiting to shed speed you need a fair bit of downwind space at the end of your run. The highest speed runs are got when you sail about 110-120 degrees from the wind direction (so heading just downwind), then to slow down you bear directly downwind. From that photo I'd be dubious as to its suitability.

There's also access which may be an issue... Liability and all that...
poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
WA, 9106 posts
1 May 2007 6:03pm
I guess having an event is a long way off
what might be better is to have a Website, like WAKSA where you could upload GPS results
From there if that generates enough interest then perhaps an event could be organized.

I know there already is a GPS kite website that Tielman ?sp is leading breaking the 40kn barrier but i reckon it would be cool to have a local one instead
ao
ao
WA
6 posts
ao ao
WA, 6 posts
1 May 2007 6:05pm
Nah dude,
only surfed and fished it,
heading up there this winter again for a week or two,
hopefully get a day or two out then if conditions are good

Greenpat, yeh i'm not up to speed with the logistics of speed kiting, i just came across it and thought it might be of interest for you guys


Ash
Spacemonkey!
Spacemonkey!
SA
2288 posts
SA, 2288 posts
1 May 2007 7:47pm
Theres a really obvious spot to have it I dont know why this discussion of trying to find a place continues... go there when its balistic (only time when its worth it).... Easy to mark out distance... Flat, clean wind, plenty of downwind room.
carbine
carbine
WA
1450 posts
WA, 1450 posts
1 May 2007 6:57pm
quote:
Originally posted by Spacemonkey!

Theres a really obvious spot to have it I dont know why this discussion of trying to find a place continues... go there when its balistic (only time when its worth it).... Easy to mark out distance... Flat, clean wind, plenty of downwind room.



I agree safety bay would be an excellent spot.
grumplestiltskin
grumplestiltskin
WA
2331 posts
WA, 2331 posts
1 May 2007 7:16pm
quote:
Originally posted by Spacemonkey!

Theres a really obvious spot to have it I dont know why this discussion of trying to find a place continues... go there when its balistic (only time when its worth it).... Easy to mark out distance... Flat, clean wind, plenty of downwind room.



I know the spot you are referencing spacy, its an old poley speed strip, and you will probably be seeing a few of us blast through there this winter ..... just keep an eye out
carbine
carbine
WA
1450 posts
WA, 1450 posts
1 May 2007 8:11pm
quote:
Originally posted by grumplestiltskin

quote:
Originally posted by Spacemonkey!

Theres a really obvious spot to have it I dont know why this discussion of trying to find a place continues... go there when its balistic (only time when its worth it).... Easy to mark out distance... Flat, clean wind, plenty of downwind room.



I know the spot you are referencing spacy, its an old poley speed strip, and you will probably be seeing a few of us blast through there this winter ..... just keep an eye out



Just remember be safe!.

they dont call it safety bay for nothing.
johntbone
johntbone
WA
48 posts
WA, 48 posts
2 May 2007 1:38am
quote:
Originally posted by ao

check out this new canoeing place in armadale, not sure of the dimensions of this place, it looks decent tho, lots of flat water

http://www.wa.canoe.org.au/default.asp?Page=12404&MenuID=Events%2Fc13288%2F10600



Pitty it has two sets of 220KV power lines running along side it
puppetonastring
puppetonastring
WA
3619 posts
WA, 3619 posts
2 May 2007 6:35am
quote:
Originally posted by johntbone
Pitty it has two sets of 220KV power lines running along side it


They are upwind on a seabreeze tho.
And the straight line long course lake makes the sea breeze a cross offshore about 1 or 200m's from the clear cross-on side.
Long way inland tho - seabreeze doesnt always make it.
Interesting - but probably not a goer .
They could have put in a cable lake
GreenPat
GreenPat
QLD
4107 posts
QLD, 4107 posts
2 May 2007 11:22am
quote:
Originally posted by puppetonastring


They are upwind on a seabreeze tho.
And the straight line long course lake makes the sea breeze a cross offshore about 1 or 200m's from the clear cross-on side.
Long way inland tho - seabreeze doesnt always make it.
Interesting - but probably not a goer .
They could have put in a cable lake



You been smoking those wood shavings again puppet? I checked that thing out on Google Earth, it looks like the photo is taken looking due West. A Sou-Wester would blow directly along it, anything more southerly would put the powerlines downwind.

Should have made a cable park.
GreenPat
GreenPat
QLD
4107 posts
QLD, 4107 posts
11 Jun 2007 8:58pm
We have the technology, we have the locations, now we just need some wind. And a seat harness, shortened lines and a custom board, but they will come with time...

www.seabreeze.com.au/gallery/gallery.asp?imageid=4752
www.seabreeze.com.au/gallery/gallery.asp?imageid=4753

If anyone wants to borrow my GPS and have me upload and clean their track data, I've got it all sussed now. It's not the most straightforward install process, if you want to do it yourself, but it's all available on the web, I can help anyone who wants to get their own setup sorted too.
gruezi
gruezi
WA
3464 posts
WA, 3464 posts
11 Jun 2007 7:07pm
Wow, that it far out well done Greenpat.

Now all we need is wind and lots of it.
poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
WA, 9106 posts
11 Jun 2007 7:17pm
quote:
If anyone wants to borrow my GPS

Dunno when you are heading off into yonders drier Pat but i am always happy to care for others toys.
Your mates Ute would also be well cared for.....
dave......
dave......
WA
2119 posts
WA, 2119 posts
11 Jun 2007 8:10pm
What's the current kitesurfing world speed record?

I'v seen 41.7 knots on stance 24 or 28, downloadable from btjunkie search kitesurfing....
The guy was using a directional board and was humming. Few years ago though.......
mineral1
mineral1
WA
4564 posts
tobes
tobes
NSW
1000 posts
NSW, 1000 posts
12 Jun 2007 12:09am
As far as I know the fastest kiter is Tilmann Heinig of Germany, David Trewern from Vic is hot on his heels though.
I can't find the gps-speedkiting site, I think it's out of action?

from http://www.kiteforum.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2335552
Date : Saturday, January 20, 2007
Spot : Westerhever, Germany
Board : Home made Halfmoon
Kite : Caution Answer 9.0
Fin : Home made Stainless Steel 4
Average speed : 46.90 knots (48.4 47.5 46.8 46.1 45.7)
Max. GPS (display) : 49.8 knots
Max. 2 sec. (software) : 49.7 knots
100 m run : 49.4 knots
250 m run : 48.4 knots
500 m run : 47.6 knots
Nautical mile : 28.1 knots
1 hour : 15.7 knots
Distance : 57.3 km
Windspeed : 30 knots
Windgusts : 40 knots

elmo
elmo
WA
8896 posts
WA, 8896 posts
11 Jun 2007 11:12pm
quote:
Originally posted by GreenPat

We have the technology, we have the locations, now we just need some wind. And a seat harness, shortened lines and a custom board, but they will come with time...

www.seabreeze.com.au/gallery/gallery.asp?imageid=4752
www.seabreeze.com.au/gallery/gallery.asp?imageid=4753

If anyone wants to borrow my GPS and have me upload and clean their track data, I've got it all sussed now. It's not the most straightforward install process, if you want to do it yourself, but it's all available on the web, I can help anyone who wants to get their own setup sorted too.



Greeny,

Saw your photos, the pond there is a good spot to Speed sail, In summer you can also flick over to point Grey on the other side.

It gets a bit shallow for us Polies 1/3rd of the way accross on a low to mid tide as we start dragging fins through the mud but a kite would breeze it.

The Run would be close to 500m long and quite flatish with nothing to hit in case you come unglued (allways a bonus)
GreenPat
GreenPat
QLD
4107 posts
QLD, 4107 posts
12 Jun 2007 12:43pm
Yeah, I was trying to get there but it got dark and in the lightish winds I wasn't making much ground fast. This weekend I might have a bit more of a go, get there earlier, bigger kite, more time to make ground. Hoping to give Tilmann and vide (David Trewern) a run for their money in WA .
jan
jan
WA
1119 posts
jan jan
WA, 1119 posts
12 Jun 2007 4:19pm
well you get dead flat runs at peli on anything with south in it, easily a 10 second run. unfortunately its straight through the calm zone now :(

only place ive had a faster run is on the sandbar at safety bay (curves real sweetly to a broad reach on a sw)
inout-inout
inout-inout
VIC
131 posts
VIC, 131 posts
24 Jun 2007 12:01pm
There is a website that we use in Geelong Victoria, Aust, where we post GPS (Garman) timed speed runs. It is at:

http://www.cremaster.com.au/speedsterladder.htm

Speeds on the ladders at the moment have been done at Point Henry Geelong. Not the best location for speed runs but it is convenient. Mainly for pole boarders but Cameron Steele has put a section on for kiters as well.

Iam currently ranked second on the ladder lol

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