Suggestion: LESSONS!!!

And don't say you've already had 10 cause if you don't know how to set-up your kite and launch either the instructor is lousy or you haven't had enough time learning...

Your launcher really does nothing till you take the kite out of his hands. Change your angles at launch a little so your slightly upwind and your launcher is slightly down wind. This should make the kite when released move slightly forward then up.

Check to make sure you havent oversheeted the kite (too much tension on the back lines) When flying the outside struts should be parallel.

You're welcome

Yeah I know?

But you don't think it's pretty bad when someone has to ask on an internet forum for help LAUNCHING a kite? I mean, isn't that like the basic, first thing you learn? Fine if people ask for tips about going upwind or relaunching... but LAUNCHING?!? with help from thea beach....

Guess you're just little goodie two shoes...

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Originally posted by DaveSpruce

Yeah I know?

But you don't think it's pretty bad when someone has to ask on an internet forum for help LAUNCHING a kite? I mean, isn't that like the basic, first thing you learn? Fine if people ask for tips about going upwind or relaunching... but LAUNCHING?!? with help from thea beach....

Guess you're just little goodie two shoes...

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mate you must soooooo gooood to be above giving advice on simple things,, maybe it would be best if we ALL check with you before asking ANY questions. Could you post up your address so we know where to contact you.[}:)]

Horse&$&%.
If you look closely Dave gave the best advice of the lot. If you can't launch it means-
1. You have no idea
2. You are too tight for lessons

If they are going to launch it anyways, i'd be a lot happier if they asked on this forum about it rather than just keep doing it wrong.

If he's in a position like me and my mates were when we were learning, ie: nearest kite school 4 hours away and no local experienced kiters to show us, then sometimes the forums are the best way of getting simple problems solved.
And lets face it, it's hardly uncommon seeing kites getting launched too far forward/back by kiters who have had lessons.

Now, about giving us all tips on going upwind? Or perhaps we should all get lessons until we can nail F16's and slim chances...don't want kooks like us only doing simple things like having fun ruining the glamorous image of kiteboarding...

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mate you must soooooo gooood to be above giving advice on simple things,, maybe it would be best if we ALL check with you before asking ANY questions. Could you post up your address so we know where to contact you.[}:)]

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63 Glenelg Ave
Wembley Downs 6019 WA

Mail me any questions you want mate, just cut down on the smileys I'll be happy.

Do you want my phonenumber/e-mail adress or anything else? I'll be happy to help you out

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The instructor probably did talk about it, but agian when you're learning you're trying to take in a hell of a lot of information.

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What is there to take in? What do you want to learn at having a lesson? What do you learn getting driving lessons? Start, run and stop the car? Maybe some rules? Ok So I do a lesson and I "forget" about the most important thing there is? nah nah... I don't buy that...

I guess the first thing I would like to learn is how to START THE CAR!! (launch the kite) Call me stupid or something but it's the ****ing truth.

Funny thing is, people have 8 hour lessons over 2 days these days with the newest, safest gear around and still (might) have to ask questions like these? When I started it was on a Wipika Amp (HUGE bar with a knot tied on my trim strap cause I didn't know what it was for) without **** all for safety and did a 1 hour lesson learning to launch, steer and land the kite. Funny, I never had any problems with any of those things after that lesson. Sure I took a beating on the beaches every day learning (mind you, where I am from we ONLY get onshore winds to kite in), my legs, arms and entire body looked like Beirut and a halfblown minefield the entire summer, but didn't injure anyone, didn't kill anyone or anything like that.. Now.. it the sport has progressed that much and the instructors/gear/ways of teaching have gotten better, why are there more accidents and, sorry, IDIOTS, on the beaches now? (and don't say cause there is more people getting into the sport, I KNOW THAT. And the fact that there are more people to the sport, and on the beaches, should also make it safer, shouldn't it?)

Mind you all I have nothing against newbies on the beaches. I love having new people to the sport and bless the ones that have the same opportunity as me to enjoy the feeling of (kite)surfing. I am there every time to help you all out but sometimes it gets too much...

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And lets face it, it's hardly uncommon seeing kites getting launched too far forward/back by kiters who have had lessons.

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Ohhhhhh ok so then I guess cause it's common it is also acceptable and we should just let the fact that people don't know their holding a (possible) lethal weapon in their hands, slide.

I'm quite sure you will look upon my attitude and sentiments and look for hypocrisy and hatred. But what I say is born out of love for my sport and fellow sportsmen, not hatred for others.

This sport has to be self regulating in terms of experienced kiters showing noobs as much as they can . We can't just go and say "get more lessons" everytime they stuff up...there's a growing population of kiters and limited teachers.
We gotta answer any questions and give advice (unwanted or not) whenever we see someone struggling.

i'd rather be the goodie two shoes of the beach than the guy who wrote him off then watched as he gets smacked into a wall or something.

Anyways...i've had my little dummy spit...now to go and enjoy my day off with the Se'er thats already 20kts...the rivermouth or the lake...

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Originally posted by dan OK?

So once again the new guy asking the questions gets written off on these forums.
These guys if they were anything like me are going to be out there anyway regardless of our warnings. Im not so awsome Ive forgotten the amount of questions I asked of the guys on the beach, even after lessons
Whos gonna stop them Ebaying a 2001 fuel then trying it in ther local footy field if they feel they cant ask questions here!
And if it becomes obvious they need lessons "kindly" suggest someone in their area
I hope macgregor and the people like him lurking but not posting arent scared off from asking what we consider basic questions for fear of being ripped into by hotshots!

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For once I can agree with you Dan "Im not so awsome Ive forgotten the amount of questions I asked of the guys on the beach" well if you bought a bow dan you might become awesome, but gay bow humor aside I agree with the rest of it too. Posting emotional self justifiable quibble doesn’t benefit any newbies out there looking for tips.

this is Dr Phil signing off....couple more

I think a lack of breast feeding is responsible for many ills in todays society 'slave.

Its all too easy to go to the supermarket and buy formula.

Hey Dave,

With all respect buddy it don't look like you're an oldee and I'm guessing it wasn't a long time ago you learnt to launch a kite. Remember how it felt . . . that first launch??

The guy's asking all the right questions. What's the point of giving him Sh1t? Be a nice guy mate n help ya kiteboarding comrades out.

Peace Guy

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Originally posted by dan OK?

So once again the new guy asking the questions gets written off on these forums.
These guys if they were anything like me are going to be out there anyway regardless of our warnings. Im not so awsome Ive forgotten the amount of questions I asked of the guys on the beach, even after lessons
Whos gonna stop them Ebaying a 2001 fuel then trying it in ther local footy field if they feel they cant ask questions here!
And if it becomes obvious they need lessons "kindly" suggest someone in their area
I hope macgregor and the people like him lurking but not posting arent scared off from asking what we consider basic questions for fear of being ripped into by hotshots!

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The guy was not "written off" or "ripped into"

He asked a question and got a few answers.

Daves reply was maybe a bit direct but sensible.Get lessons.

Just because it wasn't what he or you wanted to hear,does not make it wrong.

If people are too sensitive to criticism,they may not have what it takes to be a kiter.

I agree that people that have had lessons and been kiting for a while will have the kite go backwards like that.So heres my two cents worth:

It sounds like you are launching in very light wind,maybe with the kite too far forward in the wind window, and then pulling the bar all the way in to try and make the kite fly.Make sure there is enough wind and the kite is in the right position.If the kite is trimmed wrong,it will fly backwards when the bar is pulled in.Adjust your trim or let the bar out.