How will different kiteboards affect your riding?

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thorn
thorn
WA
172 posts
WA, 172 posts
2 Mar 2011 6:24pm
Hi, just wondering how different boards affect your riding. I've never placed much importance on boards providing it is fairly new and can go upwind well. Now I am starting to think more about them. Can they really make much of a difference to your jumps/pop or is technique more important? What makes a board go better through chop than another? I ride a North X-Ride at the moment and mainly ride free ride and old school. Any advice before I make my choice on a new one would be appreciated.
14nce
14nce
QLD
39 posts
QLD, 39 posts
2 Mar 2011 8:35pm
can make some difference, but a good rider will be able to work with any board.

But in general a board with low rocker and high flex will be very comfortable through chop and have good upwind ability.

A board with high rocker and low flex will give more pop, but be less comfortable.
yeehaa
yeehaa
QLD
123 posts
QLD, 123 posts
2 Mar 2011 9:12pm
There's a large variety of boards on the market nowdays.

I think it's mostly up to the rider, a good rider will be able to use just about any board and make it work. But then certain boards excell in different areas.

I like my wakestyle, there's no waves where I ride, and I try to get on the flatest water possible, and I recently upgraded my board to suit. This helps?
Roger21
Roger21
WA
11 posts
WA, 11 posts
2 Mar 2011 7:24pm
thorn said...

Hi, just wondering how different boards affect your riding. I've never placed much importance on boards providing it is fairly new and can go upwind well. Now I am starting to think more about them. Can they really make much of a difference to your jumps/pop or is technique more important? What makes a board go better through chop than another? I ride a North X-Ride at the moment and mainly ride free ride and old school. Any advice before I make my choice on a new one would be appreciated.


few things you might want to consider is pop, flex, rocker
other parameters fixed board with more rocker will handle chop better as tips are more upward
ApatheticEnd
ApatheticEnd
WA
995 posts
WA, 995 posts
2 Mar 2011 7:41pm
Sounds like you are already on the right type of board for your conditions/style. Why the change?

lex123
lex123
NSW
511 posts
NSW, 511 posts
2 Mar 2011 10:46pm
Some quick helpful associations- all my own opinions, please feel free to add your own experiences.

Rocker- Small rocker(flat) boards are usually great upwind because they move very little water and offer the largest surface area exposed to the water for early planing. Large rocker is the exact opposite pushing great deals of water and rides with minimal amounts of exposed area. This usually means that (wakestyle/large rocker boards) are ridden in larger sizes than what the same rider would use as a FR board. Due to the Large rocker they produce great amounts of "pop" though for more loaded tricks where line tension is the key, flat stiff boards produce more force against the lines.

Concave - concave = Forgiveness IMO. flat concave boards are usually very forgiving for learning tricks where OA landings are common. Concave help with boards tracking ability and control acting like extra fins. Larger concave boards (usually single) make great boards through choppy wavy conditions when the fins contact with the water is not always strong but can have annoying effects when trying to land tricks like i experienced over and over again on a 08 Custom.

Flex - too much to discuss. have had Stiff boards and soft boards in teh past but never been able to see a stable trend in their performance. Mostly comes down too where the designer has decided to make the board soft or stiff (look at 2010+ north boards) for a good example.

outline - quite a big topic but to put simply round tips (naish sol) soften out chop making very user friends and comfortable boards while square big tips (naish momentum, thorn, North team series, cab customs) allow more more water displacement to go bigger when pop-ing but often collide with chop creating face splash.

thorn
thorn
WA
172 posts
WA, 172 posts
2 Mar 2011 8:16pm
Hi ApatheticEnd
I have been told that the North X Ride 2009 is very flat and therefore hard to pop. Just wondering if other boards made a difference. Thanks for all the responses, it makes joining a forum worthwhile.


ApatheticEnd
ApatheticEnd
WA
995 posts
WA, 995 posts
3 Mar 2011 8:29am
Ok sweet I had the same situation. I had a 2010 xride and found that it was great to learn on I wanted something with less flex through the middle and something a bit livelier under foot. I demoed about 8 boards and bought a 2011 Xenon Laluz. I find it much better in everything but severe chop.
Tommy123
Tommy123
QLD
138 posts
QLD, 138 posts
3 Mar 2011 10:54am

Biggest thing i look for in a board is the foot pads and straps, doesnt matter what board your on if your not comfortable you will struggle. And then what your into e.g freeride, freestyle or wakestyle

eppo
eppo
WA
9793 posts
WA, 9793 posts
3 Mar 2011 9:05am
Yeh I reckon the print design is all that matters, not rocker, flex and shape.
RayQ
RayQ
WA
638 posts
WA, 638 posts
3 Mar 2011 11:51am
its pretty simple, wide ends, no flex, flat rocker = hard ride, big pop

lots of rocker, very flexy, narrow ends, = soft ride and very carvey

now most people spend many seasons looking for that perfect board some where in between.

The answer is: have as many boards as you can carry
DANEgerous
DANEgerous
VIC
253 posts
VIC, 253 posts
3 Mar 2011 4:12pm
Roger21 said...

board with more rocker will handle chop better as tips are more upward


I'd have thought it wouldn't handle chop as well as it would give you more pop, which I'd presume isn't what you'd be after in "handling" chop.
Roger21
Roger21
WA
11 posts
WA, 11 posts
4 Mar 2011 2:39am
sure, boards with rocker will have more pop but i don't see where this is problem for handling chop. from my own riding have noticed that less rocker results in tips getting more caught in small choppy waves. more rocker minimizes that and this actually somewhat compensates the general loss of upwind that comes with more rocker
SaveTheWhales
SaveTheWhales
WA
1913 posts
WA, 1913 posts
4 Mar 2011 7:43am
Ahhhh bugger the shape flex pop'corn'

Its all about the COLOUR

Real men wear Black - HTFU




GalahOnTheBay
GalahOnTheBay
NSW
4188 posts
NSW, 4188 posts
4 Mar 2011 9:05pm
SaveTheWhales said...

Ahhhh bugger the shape flex pop'corn'
Its all about the COLOUR


I agree, ever try to find a white board in the surf?
speed brother
speed brother
QLD
126 posts
QLD, 126 posts
5 Mar 2011 7:32pm
thorn said...

Hi ApatheticEnd
I have been told that the North X Ride 2009 is very flat and therefore hard to pop. Just wondering if other boards made a difference. Thanks for all the responses, it makes joining a forum worthwhile.





The North x-rides are very easy to pop. They are very controllable and allow you to boost big in chop. I would argue that they are better in some sizes than the Jaime pro.
allano
allano
WA
188 posts
WA, 188 posts
8 Mar 2011 6:04pm
Board development has progressed over the past 2 years

Some end up with an easier more forgiving ride.

Others are built for pure performance

Best thing is to try as many as you can,

Here is some info Duncan from Shinnworldoz sent over.









more on their website

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