Its Official - WA Poleys smarter than Kiters !

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SaveTheWhales
SaveTheWhales
WA
1913 posts
WA, 1913 posts
30 Nov 2008 11:01am
How true is this

A Poley learns how to poledance then stays clear of the shoreline.

A Kiter learns to kite - is told to stay clear of the shoreline - gets better, starts doin tricks - FIGJAM - starts to ride 1 foot off the shoreline, weaves kite in & out trees on shoreline - FIGJAM - starts tricking & is the one most likely to get us banned.

ALL FIGJAM Kiters welcome too respond !!!!!
Weve seen yous at the beaches all the time - but you can hide on here

WAKSA all Metro beaches, river spots & fine these Dumbarse experienced FIGJAM KiteWnkers

$300 fines work a treat in NO PARKING ZONES

Abesy
Abesy
WA
266 posts
WA, 266 posts
30 Nov 2008 11:52am
it takes a poley five years just to learn how to jibe let alone ride well....
how can u get so much fun out of goin in and out and in and out and in and out and in and out and still cant even turn fluently!!!!!

i dont agree with crashing near people on the beach but recon windsufers are way more stupid as they partake in a sport with no real variation leading to utter boardem and take forever to learn that bordem.....
SaveTheWhales
SaveTheWhales
WA
1913 posts
WA, 1913 posts
30 Nov 2008 12:13pm

Im guessing that you know some slow learners who didnt have good friends or instruction - it only takes 1 season .....

Adrenalin from SPEED & HEIGHT in both sportz is the Rush

But one sport isnt fast produceing experienced wnkers with no respect for the sport they enjoy or other beach users..

Just visit a metro spot with both - next time your in Perth.

The proof is in the Pudding

Ps Wonder why no FIGJAMMERZ replying yet, guess i'll just see them this arvo - the winds up again






mrjf
mrjf
WA
94 posts
WA, 94 posts
30 Nov 2008 12:44pm
this forum i believe is not for slagging people off...
if you have had **** day and want to vent come and see me on the beach..know a really good sport that can solve your problem..and no poles involved!
get off your soap box..have you ever done anything about solving the problem..whinging will not fix it...but you sure are giving it a good go...
laurie can you ban this twat???? agression is not what is needed....
Flux
Flux
WA
533 posts
WA, 533 posts
30 Nov 2008 1:12pm
Here we go again!, just enjoy your own back yard, enjoy your sport and get off your A**S and do something about it then if you constantly see all this carry on.
There is a constant downstream flow of crap from Windsurfers toward Kiters more so than the other way you only need spend a bit of time here to see that.
Like I said in a post some weeks back it's like watching my kids fight over a toy, mate get over it and yourself and look at the bigger picture.
It is always the minority that give every sport a bad name but what is it with you guys (windsurfers) and your general hate of us said Kiters is it jealousy that we are
a 3 dimentional sport and just don't go backwards and forwards all day as you guys do?
There's no place for threads like this, it just makes a **** storm and you know it IMO all kiters reading this shouldn't post a reply to this thread and just let it fade away as should this guy.

hirschausen
hirschausen
WA
422 posts
WA, 422 posts
30 Nov 2008 1:28pm
Hmmm,
I don't see hate from the said "polesurfer" I see frustration at the fact that he observes experienced kiters playing too close to the shore, hence putting access to beaches at risk for both disciplines of water joy.

I don't know what FIGJAM is though, I might be bit old.
SaveTheWhales
SaveTheWhales
WA
1913 posts
WA, 1913 posts
30 Nov 2008 1:35pm
Im a kiter not a Poley

Fair comment as long as youve read the other council posts onsite today...

what do you think there about ??? & have you tried to ban them ???

As an individual like most on this site - why is it so upsetting for you or anyone else to read the Truth about whats going on at our beaches ???

Its sites like this created for all opinions Pos & Neg that at least let people read & understand their antics arent going un-noticed !

People have had enough and are starting to understand slowly through "communication" the severity of this problem.

Before you Start slinging your bull around.... it was just yesterday arvo at one of these spots i helped someone out of a tree !

So yes i am taking an active role in helping people to try & do the right thing !!!

Should we all turn a blind eye & keep the FIGJAMs wrapped up in cotton wool - or should we voice our personal opinions ???

Im all for WAKSA covering Perth !

Ps FIGJAM means Fark Im Good Just Ask Me...
kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
WA
2184 posts
WA, 2184 posts
30 Nov 2008 1:37pm
Why don't you grow some balls and confront them without waiting until your at a key board?
10% (my guess) of people who kite read the forum
SaveTheWhales
SaveTheWhales
WA
1913 posts
WA, 1913 posts
30 Nov 2008 1:54pm
KiteCrazzy

Read my post on Save the Kiddies - not the whales !!

Then make an informed reply

YoMoFo
YoMoFo
NSW
240 posts
NSW, 240 posts
30 Nov 2008 4:24pm
1st of all I don't really aprove of people doing tricks too close to the shore but... isn't in everybody's nature to want your mates too see your new tricks ? Heck golfers luv getting 1 up on their mates by hitting a good shot and gloating.

It also depends on the situation. I like flat water and if there is a nice bit close to shore well, providing there is no risk to others i'll throw tricks there. Yeah there is a fine line but keep an open mind
Cut
Cut
VIC
107 posts
Cut Cut
VIC, 107 posts
30 Nov 2008 4:56pm
Kiting at Brighton yesterday arvo I had some wanker loop his kite above my gf's head while standing on the beach. She was about to go out but freaked and I had to land her kite. This wanker was just showing off and it's not the first time I've seen this at Brighton, people jumping about on the sand in a crowded location.

She's was just getting up the confidence to kite in deep water but now is too scared to kite unless the location is empty. She is really rattled over the experience and all because some tosser wanted to show off.
lostinlondon
lostinlondon
VIC
1159 posts
VIC, 1159 posts
30 Nov 2008 10:26pm
Cut said...

Kiting at Brighton yesterday arvo I had some wanker loop his kite above my gf's head while standing on the beach. She was about to go out but freaked and I had to land her kite. This wanker was just showing off and it's not the first time I've seen this at Brighton, people jumping about on the sand in a crowded location.

She's was just getting up the confidence to kite in deep water but now is too scared to kite unless the location is empty. She is really rattled over the experience and all because some tosser wanted to show off.


I hope you went up and gave the guy an earfull. That is crap. The next on the list would be guys standing on the shore with their kite at 12, having a long conversation to a mate, thereby denying others access to the water. I say don't be afraid to tell people when they need to pull their heads in, sometimes they just genuinely don't realise what they are doing, most of the time they are counting on the fact no-one has the cajones to say anything to them.
hirschausen
hirschausen
WA
422 posts
WA, 422 posts
30 Nov 2008 8:57pm
This reminds me of a story last summer,
A Psychiatrist kiter friend of mine(don't start!) who is well learned in the fine art of communication, approached a windsurfer who had decided to rig his gear in the launch and retrieve area at Coronation Beach on a very busy Saturday afternoon. (a windsurfing comp was on, so it was going off!)

The Kiter calmly and politely went up to the windsurfer (a local) and asked him if he could rig up somewhere else as this is the only spot kiters have to launch and retrieve.

A fair call you would say?.

Well, the windsurfer got very upset(angry) ignored the kiters requests and gave a mouthful of agro.

Now the Psych. came up to me and told me the gig, pointed out the guy and appealed to me what else he could have done?.

It was interesting to note the following key points:
1. The local windsurfer was rigging up way at the back of the rigging area out of the way and doing it fast. He really wasn't in anyones way, but clearly shouldn't be there.
2. The beach was packed with windsurfing rigs and no obvious area was available for him to rig, so he must have thought in our area would be ok, if he was quick. Being a local, the chances of getting away with it - good.
3. The Psych - a six foot three dark haired, shaven headed, bushy bearded 100kgish brute of a soldier, from the Czech. Republic in an impact vest towered over the just six foot sailor who usually doesn't mix words.

Now, you can be forgiven for assuming I'm going to argue in favour of either the kiter, because of his legitimate right to defend the space of kiters. Or, I might lean the windsurfer way, who is a local and I know him, and working fast, didn't really want to talk to anyone, knew the back section of the launch area is never used, had just arrived and just wanted to get out there with the minimum of fuss.

Neither, as both in my opinion. Being just that, my opinion; neither has veto over anything at Coro's.

It was very interesting to note how approaching someone to "discuss" the finer points of safety or to pull someone up on the technicalities of a particular spot, in the interest of all...can go so poorly.

Unfortunately we all have this thing called an ego, which when embarrassed, can result in poor social etiquette.

So what's the solution - there is none.

Approach, communicate, and remember the Czech.

Remember that someone who is doing something they shouldn't, will usually react poorly if they know it's wrong.
MOST, do give a toss and even though they will react poorly, usually won't do it again. We know this because those that are never confronted, will continue because they perceive that no-one cares therefore, making it acceptable.

Those that are confronted and persist - Rarely exist, as that type of personality behaviour flaw leads to prison and most are already there.

Well...that's what social conditioing tells us anyway.

Happy confronting - happy kiting.
richswing
richswing
WA
724 posts
WA, 724 posts
30 Nov 2008 11:27pm
I was down at Brighton yesterday evening(about 4-6 kites out and minimal traffic on the beach), was chatting to a guy's board I just tried out with my kite sitting between 45 degrees and ground ( I would never have my kite at 12 as it tends to luff ) and this guy comes up behind me and starts to basically push my kite from behind flying into my backlines which I quickly landed my kite to prevent any incidents,

He could have cause my kite to loose control and take out the kids playing footy downwind or wreck my gear.

Ok I admit I was there for a couple of minutes talking but was not hindering anybody at all but maybe I was wrong and he had all the right to try and force me to land my kite for me.

There are some big headed w@nkers in all sports but it seems kiting attracts most of them.

Cheers
Saffer
Saffer
VIC
4501 posts
VIC, 4501 posts
1 Dec 2008 8:58am
Actually I have to agree with the windsurfer and I'm a kitesurfer.

Kiters are much bigger ^%$#@'s than windsurfers when it comes to their behaviour on the water. If I had to compare irresponsible behaviour between kiters and windsurfers, I'd say kiters were responsible for 99% of the bad behaviour, with poley's being the exception rather than the rule.

I understand the sentiments expressed by a person above about Brighton. Its a hotspot for idiots who feel they own the flat water close to shore and will do their best to try "own" the space forcing other people out with irresponsible behaviour. Its only a matter of time before they try it with the wrong person and some newbie kiter who is a meat missile decides to beat the living crap out of them.

BTW, figjam stands for "F*** I'm good...just ask me!"

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