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Geeza
Geeza
WA
90 posts
WA, 90 posts
14 Mar 2005 11:48am
G'day All

Im after some advise on boosting. I am jumping but somewhat inconsistently and not as high as others. Some times i take of with no height and simply fly down wind instead. Im sure its got to do with the timeing of sending my kite back over my head and loading my edge.

if your screaming along with your kite at 45 degrees, nicely powered up , and you begin sending your kite up to take off. At what point do you start loading your edge and for how long, for maximum lift. Also is the technique to loading you edge for takeoff the same as edging hard to go upwind or to stop yourself becoming overpowered in a gust.
Geeza
Geeza
WA
90 posts
WA, 90 posts
15 Mar 2005 8:38am
Come on guys- jumping is meant to be easier than backrolls and mobes, although youve given some advice on these moves.

Kitehard you must have some good tips
professor
professor
QLD
277 posts
QLD, 277 posts
15 Mar 2005 12:14pm
go as fast as you can then go down wind a little bit then load up hard then reef the kite with your back hand the load is like a sec before you reef you will fly very high with this you must make sure your legs are strong or you will just fly down wind as you cant keep the edge dug in. Edge like your stopping. its just simple gravity this jump tends to make you go very high and you can float for a long time its my fav jump there is a lot of slightly diff ways to jump it all comes with time if you get angry with what your doing remember its all ment to be fun
Damo
Damo
WA
641 posts
WA, 641 posts
15 Mar 2005 11:03am
long low fast jumps are caused by sending the kite back from too low in the window (wich it sounds like you are doing) and not holding your edge fro long enough. try ridding as hard up wind as you can but with good speed and power with the kite positioned at about 11:00 if you are going to your left. what you want to think is that you are going to fly the kite from 11:00 back to 1:00 and the back to 11:00 but you are going to edge so damm hard that there is no way the kite will pull you off the water. in reality the kite will have no trubles lifting you out of the water but by edge realy hard as you send the kite back it will keep it loaded up and therefore will steer much better when you leave the water and pull you higher. once you get the hang of this you can start to add pop so releaseing your edge and poping just before the kite pulls you skyward. or as proff said you can bear off down wind to get more speed and then send the kite and pop but this will take practice to get the timing right.
have fun and dont forrget to look down wind and behind you first!!!
Victor
Victor
NSW
117 posts
NSW, 117 posts
15 Mar 2005 2:24pm
quote:
Originally posted by Damo

and dont forrget to look down wind and behind you first!!!



Yes! Perhaps the most important thing to remember. And don't underestimate how far downwind you might travel in the jump. I've done this.
waveslave
waveslave
WA
4263 posts
WA, 4263 posts
15 Mar 2005 8:43pm
Jumping (or boosting) is one of my favourite things to do with my wetsuit on. Ofcourse, that comes after wave-riding (with kite),that's my most favourite thing to do with my wetsuit on.

My advice is try to learn jumping in the surf. Just really small waves to start with.

The reason I say this is because a wave is a target that you can aim at. This method will establish a sense of timing.

The wave is moving at a set pace, you're approaching it at a given speed, and then you connect. As you kiss the lip, pull the trigger (ie; yank the bar down hard with your backhand) and push off the wave by pressuring your toes.

Don't resist the upward pull, just go with the flow.

I won't detail the landing, that's another can-of-worms.
I'll leave that for someone else.
Kitehard
Kitehard
WA
2782 posts
WA, 2782 posts
15 Mar 2005 9:21pm
Hey Geeza,

You're right, I do have a few tips of boosting bigger and better. I have attached below, (a single page from the more than 40 in the manual) an exert from the Girls Riding Clinic Manual. To really get it happening, join in on the next course and REALLY dial it in!

Hope this helps you out.

best winds,

Darren Marshall
Australian Kiteboarding School

PS. This material is copyright protected, so please use it but don't abuse it by selling it onwards or putting it into print somewheres other than here.

Jumping theory – Better jumping techniques to go bigger and float longer.
Girls can’t boost big right???? Wrong! Girls can go big. Problem is, big jumps take a combination of timing, technique, loading, a little strength and speed, all at the same time. The single thing that killed off big jumps was the advent of the chicken loop.

The chicken loop suddenly allowed us to dump power making it easier to ride upwind without having to “out edge” gusts. The subsequent effect was to remove our need to learn good solid edging skills and holding power. Edging hard is about loading the kite or tensioning the lines. Keeping tension on the lines and loading the kite at the point of take off from the water will let you go big.

Maintaining bar pressure whilst in the air will keep you up there longer.
A few tips to jumping bigger

1. Riding along at 90 degrees to the wind, gather speed and power and noting your position in the water with a buoy or some such, send the kite back for a normal jump. Now look back and note the distance you traveled forward from the point of pulling on the bar to the time you took off from the water. It will probably be around 30 feet or 10 metres. This shows you your distance for timing a wave for take off.
2. With your new found distance, next line up a wave or piece of chop you wish to jump off and turn the kite the appropriate distance from the wave so that you will leave the water from the wave face.
3. In the short distance between pulling the bar and taking off, you should alter your course with the board to point higher upwind especially in the last 3metres before the wave. Turning sharply to windward on take off, “loads” the lines and gives you more lift by accelerating the kite.
4. Your kite should be between 11.30 and 1 o’clock for take off. Only turn the kite back to as far as around 1.30 before swinging it forward again and into the wind. This will give you nice float or hangtime.
5. As you begin to descend from the apex of the jump, steer the kite sharply back to your direction of travel and look for where you expect to land. Turning your kite well before you land gives you speed for planning so you land without butt checking in and stalling off the plane. Bend your knees to absorb the impact of landing and point the board in the direction of travel so your fins bite in and you can regain control.

Different types of jumps are accomplished by changing the position in the wind window of where you send the kite from. Higher towards 12 o’clock gives lofty high jumps where you will land near the take off point and jumps initiated from below 10.30 result in a low and long jump with a fast landing. Both types of jumps can be used to achieve different objectives.

Most common problems with jumping are :-
1. Swinging beneath your kite resulting in a luff and plonk landing. This happens due to lack of edging or loading upon takoff and also from not redirecting the kite forward before landing.

2. Lack of height comes from being tentative about the take off and not loading or not sheeting in keeping the power on.

3. Lack of float or Hangtime This is generally caused by not keeping the bar pulled in to maximum power whilst in the air or not turning the kite to face the wind in mid jump.
Geeza
Geeza
WA
90 posts
WA, 90 posts
16 Mar 2005 8:36am
My whinging paid off.

Thanks guys for all that feedback, I cant wait to get out there and have a practise. My problem is definitly bad timeing and not loading my edge enough.

Kitehard thanks for the invitation to the next girls riding clinic but I dont think I would meet the criteria. I could borrow a wig perhaps. Are you going to do a male or open riding clinic at any point?

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