Hi guys, KITEMARES
Well at some point we've all had a few so heres my first, Was kiting down GC seaway a place known as KFC or loders creek, have been kiting since late sept, at the point where turns are a breeze cruizing up wind is no longer a problem can do all those things you should be able to do saftey wise can even self launch and land if there's no one to help.
So I'm practising jumps now, did this one about 35m away made the mistake of turning my head and shoulders bit to far making me spin for a backwards splash down, by the time I stuck my head up was about 25m away from shoreline looked up only to see my kite past the zenith, kite stalled lines went loose kite spun on it's self causing lines to cross but worst of all one of the steer lines also wrapped around trailing edge making one line shorter, lines tighten up and kite heads straight for the bank on edge of water, 2 kiters standing there older bloke and chic.
I grab opposite steer line and pull hard they duck and kite swoops past them, missing them the ground and small trees, kite heads back to zenith but now line is firmly around my fingers pain is intense and about to either snap or severe them off, I use other hand to free myself and just let the kite hit the grassed area. Of course older bloke and chic were upset but didnt know what happened bit of swearing and carrying on, he comes up to me, I explain what went on and he calmed down, but her OMG she must of gone to every kiter around except me!!! and had a bitch even after I fixed my lines and went back out for another hour she was still going on, basically the 3hrs I was there she was all geared up and never once went out. Came back in got the missus to help land and this chic made another comment loud enough for wife to hear saying blokes only bring there wife's to launch and land there kite's, Well if your reading this my wife was with our sister inlaw from syd who wanted to kite but was too crowded for her liking so wife was hanging with her chatting and taking photo's, meanwhile missus explained to me how this chic was running around getting brownie points launching and landing everyone else's kites including her partner's hmmmmmmmmmm.
Now Im probaly gonna cop some S*#t but this is a forum so have a go if you wish, but if you can help, is there anyway of stopping the kite from stalling like that after jumping or what is it that im doing wrong that caused the kite to do that. Thanks P.s. if anyone else has kitemare storie please tell it might help prevent someone else from making that same mistake.

too close to shore for learning to jump , gets very shallow , have pulled unconsious kiter from that area . shearwater better for learners bigger beach less pedestrians no moored boats downwind, bouys and the hire jet skis zooming back and forth.

need to redirect kite earlier to keep in the window . imo

Shane you were pulled backwards right, hence when you stopped getting skull dragged, the kite flew overhead, lines slack, down she went.

Not much you can do in that instance, except Flagg out real quick as it is hindenburging. This can reduce the kite gaining speed as it gets in the power zone near the water and can avoid power spikes that can hurt yourself and others.

And yes now you know to jump further away when learning and indeed and a general rule that even the experienced of us forget to do from time to time.

Sh1t happens, move on and don't take whinging bitches too seriously as you will encounter 90 percent of half the species doing this for one reason or another, just move on.

eppo said...
Shane you were pulled backwards right, hence when you stopped getting skull dragged, the kite flew overhead, lines slack, down she went.

Not much you can do in that instance, except Flagg out real quick as it is hindenburging. This can reduce the kite gaining speed as it gets in the power zone near the water and can avoid power spikes that can hurt yourself and others.

And yes now you know to jump further away when learning and indeed and a general rule that even the experienced of us forget to do from time to time.

Sh1t happens, move on and don't take whinging bitches too seriously as you will encounter 90 percent of half the species doing this for one reason or another, just move on.

thanks eppo will remember that and try to correct it earlier, yes your right **** doe's happen we all have our stories to tell lol. And yes I should of been at least 50m out, but I think on that day luck was on my kite's side? because had I been out further there was no way my kite would have relaunched and even if I tried to self rescue by winding in the lines with the 20knots onshore breeze that day, my kite would of ended up on the oyster layden rocks and torn to s@#! as apposed to hitting the grass and remaining in pristine condition.

wal269 said...
don't take whinging bitches too seriously......


And that is officially Comment of the week! Well done Eppo!

I'm a high school teacher. Add excited hormone induced children and the neurotic female mind and you have the recipe for the largest bitch fest you could possibly contemplate...worse thing is the men start behaving as such as well. Hence the need to not take them seriously, get plenty of practise on a daily basis.

Being cool is not my operandus modus...I'm getting too old relative to teenagers to pull that off.

I'm consistent at least which I can't say whinging bitches are.

simple is as simple does....just do it.... give it up and kite when you want...
you only live once in this space, so enjoy it. Tomoz the doctor may say you've got cancer with 6 weeks to live. what good is your job then?

eppo said...
Shane might make you feel better. Cranking upwind on an 11m edge on a skim board in 10 knots. Wind dropped a little and I still haven't for the turning thing nailed. Dropped kite so far out the guys 10km north up and over the cut saw it. A shark sighting chopper had been in the area circling beforehand to. Haven't had to swim in a kite for 10 years on a simar day at pinnas.

Hope that makes ya feel better.

**** me I hope u arent an english teacher... No wonder wa people talk funny

Hey Eppo, what do you mean by "Flagg out real quick"? Do you mean release the first safety?

eppo said...
Yep. It will gather some power, but hopefully it will be short lived and will eliminate the kite being powered after this causing more propable chance of creating another kitemare.

For the record I need to take my own advice because I tend to not do this...then again I always ride suicide unless in winds nearing the top end of my kite. Still 80% power better than 100.

hmmm my everyday kites are 2011 f-one B4's they don't seem to depower as well as some other kites I hear about, The one time I crashed in river mouth tide was strong I could'nt catch up to board so released the chic loop saftey and depower cord to 100% but kite was still catching wind and it was very hard to wind lines in, luckily someone save my board from the ocean, now if I loose it I just quickly head to shore land kite and then swim out to the board when the currents are too strong for body dragging.
Hence probably the reason I stick a little to closely to the shore line lol.
Will keep these kites til their wrecked then look at some newbies with better depower and saftey.

Unfamiliar place, sunsetting turns night time, landed my kite onto a road. Released my safeties just in time before kite taken away by a truck. Kitemare

shane75 said...

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by the time I stuck my head up was about 25m away from shoreline looked up only to see my kite past the zenith, kite stalled lines went loose kite spun on it's self causing lines to cross but worst of all one of the steer lines also wrapped around trailing edge making one line shorter,

Fark this forum is turning to **IT for advice !!!!

Shane - seriously, this is the "Im in an uncomfortable / maybe dangerous position - Pull the Safety Immediately !!!"

Like youve been taught and then saught your **it out later and get back on the water...

Stay at least a 100m offshore as this will give you lots of time to work out how to activate your safety without ripping your fingers off

Then no one would be complaining - so yes you deserve the Chicks AGGRO - take it on the chin and Manup.... its how we get banned from beaches

If you are jumping HUGE, you need to add additional room. If I go out in 30 odd knots on an 11m Edge and go boosting, I can easily use up 150m from take off spot to the kite when downwind.



Cheers,

DM



Farq you're an ANIMAL darren!! Christ how big would you go on an 11m edge in 30....jesus.

SaveTheWhales said...

shane75 said...

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by the time I stuck my head up was about 25m away from shoreline looked up only to see my kite past the zenith, kite stalled lines went loose kite spun on it's self causing lines to cross but worst of all one of the steer lines also wrapped around trailing edge making one line shorter,

Fark this forum is turning to **IT for advice !!!!

Shane - seriously, this is the "Im in an uncomfortable / maybe dangerous position - Pull the Safety Immediately !!!"

Like youve been taught and then saught your **it out later and get back on the water...

Stay at least a 100m offshore as this will give you lots of time to work out how to activate your safety without ripping your fingers off

Then no one would be complaining - so yes you deserve the Chicks AGGRO - take it on the chin and Manup.... its how we get banned from beaches

oh yeah I agree completely, and ive been practicing my jumps at least 100m out lately, on that day s*%t happened so fast but I regained control pulled on centre lines and self landed it, I really do believe if you've lost complete control of the kite and your getting dragged because your too overpowered then sure pull the saftey release, but don't keep going and pulling it everytime the kites gonna crash how else are you gonna learn kite control and recovery. eg: Cars going around corner in wet, car slides out, do you just slam on the brakes or do you keep the power on understeer a little and recover before causing serious damage.

As for the chic, well theres been plenty of times when ive been setting up the lines and ive had kites slam into the ground right next to me to the point where i felt the breeze, and they would yell out SORRY and i would yell back NO WORRIES S@#t happens NO! HARM mate, and that would be that no roid rage involved or carrying on like a stuck pig lol.
PPL get banned from kiting, because they do it on beaches in patroled areas near swimmers/bathers sunbakers, areas that even boats or jet ski's are not allowed to go, or they try to kite in heritage listed/ protected marine conservation parks.