Spacemonkey! said...

junglist said...

Slave

Totally agree with you my man. Why engineer multiple points of failure into a design?

Maybe we should go back to two line then?

Thats a silly argument monkey boy. Not all progress is postive my friend.

junglist said...

Thats a silly argument monkey boy. Not all progress is postive my friend.

I was just pointing out 4 lines has more points of failure than 2 and that 4 lines is a better design most people
would agree.

getfunky said...



They add a pooofteenth to the weight admitedly, but then i ended up with 3 strut kites so have saved I would estimate 400% less weight by that choice.

Wouldn't touch an internal one pump with a barge pole tho. Can't believe they even made it onto the market. Trouble.

So Funky, if a kite weights 5 kilos, and you make it 400% lighter, does that make the kite weigh -15 kilos? In other words - 3 strut kites are like helium balloons?

Internal one pump on Naish kites also have valves that only let air flow from the leading edge to the strut, not the other way around - if you get a leak, a simple process of logic should establish where the leak is. Naish supply a spare Octopus valve in the repair kit - it doesn't look like rocket science to replace. They have had Octopus on their gear for what, 5 seasons now? Naish have demonstrated that they won't stick with something that doesn't work (Look how the Sigma has evolved over the last 3 years, anyone heard of the Alliance?)

^^^^^^what he means is........ 1 strut + bladder + valve = 200g
extra weight from 1 pump 50g

400% of 50 is 200.....get it.

waveslave said...

One-pump is INDUSTRY driven planned-obsolescence.
It's an evil plan to deliberately rat-f#ck a perfectly simple thing like a kite.
It limits the kite's useful life and tempts many crew to prematurely purchase new gear.
Rather than throwing good money at expensive shop-repairs on failed inflation systems ...
crew may opt to quit the piece-of-sh1t and just buy a new kite in a bag.
One-pump makes a kite heavier, more expensive to make, and more complicated to repair.
One-pump does not make a kite fly better.
One-pump does not make a kite any safer.
One-pump must die.
*One-pump was originally invented for snowkiting.

bet you drive a car with no power steering for the same reasons

^^^^I think he was hatched in a test tube

Dont see how one pump is a DISASTER when something goes wrong???????

Each strut is clamped off seperate so if one strut leaks the whole kite dosent deflate.Same us multi inflate.

Its no harder to repair a strut or find a leak.

Quicker to inflate and deflate.

Whats ya problem????????

Or have you just run out of things to complain about??

I take it by your attitude that you don't ride a one pump kite? So what do you care if other kites have the onepump or not? Personally, as Sir Rowdy stated, easy to realign bladders if/when needed to repair, never had a problem with the system itself (damn simple) and never have to worry about inflating small bladders and trying to pinch them off quickly without losing air.

I shouldn't be replying, been drinking too much

One positive with multiple pump is while you're spending time trying to inflate all those struts hopefully gives you less time to post you're trivial crap here!

jumphi said...

One positive with multiple pump is while you're spending time trying to inflate all those struts hopefully gives you less time to post you're trivial crap here!

For me, it's not about struts or less pumping time or more pumping time. ^^^
It's about having options.
Hell, I fly delta-shape kites with 4 struts only.
And the 4 struts are permanently pumped-up.
All I need to do is pump up the main bladder when I go kiting.
I beat the one-pump dudes in the inflation race.

lol.
That's the most gayworthy post you have ever made, lotto. ^^^
haha

By the looks of it,
It seems fashion outweighs function when it comes to kite design.
The sport has been totally pussified.
It's only a matter of time when I'll have no choice but to buy a one-pump kite.
When that happens, I might become the first guy ever to convert a one-pump into a multi-pump kite.
(Unless someone has already done this?)
It could be a nice little project for me.

waveslave said...
It's only a matter of time when I'll have no choice but to buy a one-pump kite.

No **** sherlock.

Just like you cant buy a car without power steering or one with a carburettor. Its called progress. Do you still listen to cassettes and hand cheques over in the post office to pay for your bills?

If you "like to tinker with kite stuff" (which is a direct quote from yourself) then what's the effort in making your own gay-arse multi pump system.

I dont think this is about one pump at all. I just think you like to ****-stir.
lol.

waveslave said...

lol.
That's the most gayworthy post you have ever made, lotto. ^^^
haha

lol, gayworthy

waveslave said...All I'm asking for is choice.

as stated in the title of this thread

Maybe slave is just sick of being everyones kite bitch because everyone else wtih onepump is setup quicker than him and has to launch them all