gruezi said...

I'm with you Flux, speak from the heart...it is ok and at least truthful.

The internet and the written word is weird, I'm all in to stream of consciousness and all that....it is just that on the net it can attract the wrong impressions from some. I never ever make an assumption of what kind of a person is behind the writing on the net. Most people have hearts of gold and are just venting.....we all do it, some more than others....good on you for venting in public, got to make you feel better....have a great day

Thanks mate , was starting to think this was actually site for Crochet and not water sports

I go to the snow pretty regularly (Perisher Valley) and have never seen a kiter in my life - maybe they hang out in different areas outside of the resort?

Then again, I also do alot of backcountry and have never seen anyone there either. Do snow kiters actually exist in Australia?

It's getting reasonably popular in NZ - I think World Surfaris promote kiting trips to NZ - there are areas near Wanaka that are awesome for snow kiting apparently. I think areas that are traditionally good for Cross Country skiing are good for snow kiting.

Regarding snowkiting. It's a completelly different story there. Snowkiters would never go into the slopes where the people that pay for liftpasses ride. It just wouldn't make sense kiting in the slopes. They seek big open areas where they can play around, like Silvaplana Lake in Switzerland, and most of Norway It's the same with skiing though. Everyone in the slopes/pistes have to take it easy. I've skied for 22 years, done 4 seasons and several times been stoped by the "liftwaffe" and pisteurs for riding, in their opinion, recklessly or too fast. As soon as you're outside the designated skiing area they don't give a toss, you're on your own. But inside their areas, your ass is theirs.

It's the exact same thing with kiting. Lifesavers and even the council have duty to make the time spent on the beach for the public as safe as practically possible. If kiters, surfers or poleys breach this and jeopordizes people safety I'm pretty sure they do have the right to put an end to it. People kiting at busy beaches, endangering other people, are pushing the envelope. If we kite at woodies, the authorities wouldn't give a ****. We are in a "people-free" area and less likely to injure anyone. You never hear reports about complaints from Woodies or remote beaches up north and down south.

Everyone just needs to stay way clear of the swimming areas not to aggitate any unknowing swimmers. I'm sure I've been "close" to swimmers a couple of times too, me knowing it is safe and I have full control over the situation it's not always the swimmers know that, more likely never.

I also know it's hard when we have alot of tourists/euros coming here for a month or two, not caring about rules and/or staying clear. They just want to have a good time, show off and enjoy our fabulous conditions, which of course backfires on us long after they have gone home.

How good is this?

What I'm doing to help the situation? How about not kiting at busy beaches and putting other people at risk. If I would I would gladly tell people that do to stay clear and give space to the swimmers.

What do you do? Promoting anarchy and being cocky saying you don't care about bans or authorities trying to stop you from doing what you're doing? Encouraging people to not care about bans and just go about their business as usual? Yeah that's helpfull bro

pearl said...


How good is this?

I now have a new hero

echostorm said...

sunseeker said...

pearl said...


How good is this?

I now have a new hero

Where the heck did u find that video? lol... I wish I could be half as cool as that dude.

Yep! That pippi didn't stand a chance. But be warned; there is a ban on taking pipis for consumption in byron bay marine park!

There are snow kiters and yes we do hang elswhere .Common sense dictates that riding in a resort is just stupid,plus your not allowed .Australia has more area of snow than Switzerland .Most Aussies wouldn't know it ,and they wouldn't know that what passes for snow in the resorts is a joke .The highest lifted point in oz is the top of karels Tbar thredbo 2037 m.Thats basically where we stert from so it is our lowest point that we snowkite.The area beyond and out to Kosi is massive and treeless and great for snowkiting ,the views are breathtaking .kosi is 2228 and that much more height can make quite a difference to quantity and quality of snow .The wind is usually nukin or nothin but when its good the rewards are awesome .The snow when it is windy and hasn't snowed for a while can be cauliflower ice but is still quite grippy unlike the resorts which has the top wiped off it .Cailiflower snow eats blow ups and lines so don't crash and be careful on launch and land .
have a look at www.kitesled.com .We generally have a get together each year and I am thinking of running a snow kite week this year .prelims look like accom and breakky and dinner at Thredbo is approx $800 for 7 days and nights .Lift to the top $27 each day or we'll buy day tickets if there is too much or too little wind

buckwheat said...

I go to the snow pretty regularly (Perisher Valley) and have never seen a kiter in my life - maybe they hang out in different areas outside of the resort?

Then again, I also do alot of backcountry and have never seen anyone there either. Do snow kiters actually exist in Australia?

Senor Float, yep I know this area, and I can see how it would be perfect - no trees, no people, relatively flat, and easy access. Have you been out when it's nukin? Its not hard to hit 50 knots up there, I can't imagine that it would be anything other than uber gnarly!!

Bucko

Mr float said...

There are snow kiters and yes we do hang elswhere .Common sense dictates that riding in a resort is just stupid,plus your not allowed .Australia has more area of snow than Switzerland .Most Aussies wouldn't know it ,and they wouldn't know that what passes for snow in the resorts is a joke .The highest lifted point in oz is the top of karels Tbar thredbo 2037 m.Thats basically where we stert from so it is our lowest point that we snowkite.The area beyond and out to Kosi is massive and treeless and great for snowkiting ,the views are breathtaking .kosi is 2228 and that much more height can make quite a difference to quantity and quality of snow .The wind is usually nukin or nothin but when its good the rewards are awesome .The snow when it is windy and hasn't snowed for a while can be cauliflower ice but is still quite grippy unlike the resorts which has the top wiped off it .Cailiflower snow eats blow ups and lines so don't crash and be careful on launch and land .
have a look at www.icebird.com .We generally have a get together each year and I am thinking of running a snow kite week this year .prelims look like accom and breakky and dinner at Thredbo is approx $800 for 7 days and nights .Lift to the top $27 each day or we'll buy day tickets if there is too much or too little wind

Well there you go I stand corrected .Anyway there is still plenty of room .
To answer a previous question yes I have been out when it was nukin 100 km/h with an 8 m PL bomba .it was handling things OK but were came onto a rock field and I thought it best to put it down .it flapped around madly and getting the lines untwisted behind a rock was not fun.ithen flew it on really short 5 m lines .it was OK but a 2 m trainer kite on 2 m lines would probably have been better .
We had stayed out overnight and the wind came up really strong .Others walked out .be prepared for the worst in the high country i don't think I would deliberately head out in nukin winds. the windblown stashes of karels and the bluff are more fun with a day ticket.this is where resorts have over snow kiting

regards

Lach

buckwheat said...

PS And I know this is getting off topic, but I'm a bit of a geography geek, and I always thought the Aussie alps vs Swiss alps thing was an urban myth. A quick search showed that the area of the Swiss Alps is 192,000km2, whereas Kossy national park is 690km2, of which only 250km2 is alpine. Even if the Victorian alps were 100 times bigger (which they're not), we're still waaaaay short Switzerland.

Now back to the topic at hand.....

This is why we here at 23rd ave have a M.O.F.O rule!! So people like this don't wreak our spot.
Good luck with alex down your way michel. Love the bit where he is beach jumping at byron, isn't that now the place which you guys are unable to kite? No wonder why!

X angie
m.o.f.o
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Kitepower Australia said...

This person/kite pest is now hanging around the Wanda carpark, Greenhills area.
He has been observed riding and jumping in the bitument carpark area amongst cars and people, and was observed jumping over some kids and then hassling the young mum about saving the planet and converting every kid to fly foils blah, blah, rubbish..........

Maybe SSKC should make a report to Sutherland Shire Council, and anyone seeing him behaving badly should call the ranger??

Just to clarify - which pest are you describing ? The dolls point body drag/teabagging retard ? Or the byron car park and pippi killing oxygen theif ?? I dont think their the same guy are they?

And what do you mean "maybe" ?? If either of these jokers has been seen doing this in our backyard, then there is no maybe about it. Definately call the ranger, cops, report to council etc.

I reckon the best bet is to get video footage of him being a tosser in the Sydney area, then take that, as well as all the other pathetic garbage he posts onto the net to prove to the authorities that he has a long history of doing this all over the joint and is a menace to everyone. Im not sure what they can do to him, but surely theres something he can be pinched for.

The most important thing that this will show (us reporting him to local authorities) is that we are trying to self police, and that if they (councils) do get complaints (especially about him) - perhaps they wont come down on the kiting community so hard. this sort of person enfuriates me.

Anyone know where he/they reside? The oxygen thief seems to get around a bit. I know someone that may want to have a quiet chat to him/them about their behaviour.

So everyone keep an eye out for them. Get em on tape and lets try get them shut down.

Steve, the dolls point dude Im talking about is shown in a youtube video - 8th post up from the bottom of page 1 of this thread. I dont know how to put a link to that particular post.

Choady said...

Kitepower Australia said...

This person/kite pest is now hanging around the Wanda carpark, Greenhills area.
He has been observed riding and jumping in the bitument carpark area amongst cars and people, and was observed jumping over some kids and then hassling the young mum about saving the planet and converting every kid to fly foils blah, blah, rubbish..........

Maybe SSKC should make a report to Sutherland Shire Council, and anyone seeing him behaving badly should call the ranger??

Just to clarify - which pest are you describing ? The dolls point body drag/teabagging retard ? Or the byron car park and pippi killing oxygen theif ?? I dont think their the same guy are they?

And what do you mean "maybe" ?? If either of these jokers has been seen doing this in our backyard, then there is no maybe about it. Definately call the ranger, cops, report to council etc.

I reckon the best bet is to get video footage of him being a tosser in the Sydney area, then take that, as well as all the other pathetic garbage he posts onto the net to prove to the authorities that he has a long history of doing this all over the joint and is a menace to everyone. Im not sure what they can do to him, but surely theres something he can be pinched for.

The most important thing that this will show (us reporting him to local authorities) is that we are trying to self police, and that if they (councils) do get complaints (especially about him) - perhaps they wont come down on the kiting community so hard. this sort of person enfuriates me.

Anyone know where he/they reside? The oxygen thief seems to get around a bit. I know someone that may want to have a quiet chat to him/them about their behaviour.

So everyone keep an eye out for them. Get em on tape and lets try get them shut down.

Its the same pest that kites in carparks, and is the guy who took the footage of the idiot teabagging/body dragging at dolls point,good luck approaching this guy to suggest doing the right thing,even though he has a lot to be modest about his ego is so far beyond the ability of rational thinking that he will just scream abuse at you,just be aware,there is definately something not right up stairs.