Kiteboarders and Godwits - some advice needed

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decay
decay
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6 Jul 2009 4:13pm
Hi Guys,

Got what I needed - thanks.

DK

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nathand
nathand
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6 Jul 2009 7:40pm
get the tree huggers out of parliament, starting with kevin dud and his the growth nhis ass anna bligh
skiddz
skiddz
NT
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6 Jul 2009 7:33pm

a. conducted over only 6 days, of which kiteboarders were present a 3rd of the days. On average kiteboarders use the area 25 days a year, which is less than 1%.


Erm actually 25 days is actually about 15%
djdojo
djdojo
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6 Jul 2009 8:21pm
hello decay,

the kites sure seem to stir the birds up. if the non-local kiters were deliberately doing this i can understand the other folk being very unimpressed.

as various threads on seabreeze have argued, signage only effects the behaviour of people who are capable of considering others (people or critters), or at least recognising their longer-term self interest (being able to kite certain spots) as being aligned with the interests of others. unfortunately kiting is a sport with its share of short-sighted and selfish types for whom signs and rational requests are just fuel to a fire of stupidity.

on a philosophical/ethical note, would you (and other kiters can think about this hypothetically) agree to stop kiting certain places at certain times if there was strong evidence that it was ecologically harmful? considering this question is one way to clarify your position and/or find a more satisfactory one.

on a trivial but potentially bureaucratically helpful note, in point 2, you mean "one third" not "a 3rd," and 25 days per year is a lot more than 1%. perhaps you meant less than 10%?

good luck. kiting has to be more environmentally sound than jetskiing, 4wding, and a lot of other noisy, dirty and resource-intensive sports. if done sensibly, a great way to enjoy and deepen our interest in beautiful places.


nathand said...

and his the growth nhis ass anna bligh


is this a sort of queensland pidgin? translation anybody?
djdojo
djdojo
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6 Jul 2009 8:25pm
skiddz said...


a. conducted over only 6 days, of which kiteboarders were present a 3rd of the days. On average kiteboarders use the area 25 days a year, which is less than 1%.


Erm actually 25 days is actually about 15%


15% of what? a year containing 166.66666 days?
Blownaway
Blownaway
QLD
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6 Jul 2009 9:19pm
djdojo said...

nathand said...

and his the growth nhis ass anna bligh


is this a sort of queensland pidgin? translation anybody?



and his, the growth in'his ass anna bligh

I think thats how it goes.
djdojo
djdojo
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6 Jul 2009 9:55pm
aha, i get it, thanks
greenleader
greenleader
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6 Jul 2009 11:46pm
translated into australian! "growth in his arse."
myusernam
myusernam
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7 Jul 2009 10:34am
nathand said...

get the tree huggers out of parliament, starting with kevin dud and his the growth nhis ass anna bligh


is kevin rudd also prime minister of new zealand? I thought the kiwis elected their hottest chick as PM?
myusernam
myusernam
QLD
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QLD, 6160 posts
7 Jul 2009 12:27pm
on a serious note there are plenty of places in AUS (much more advanced country I know) that have bans on going anywhere near migrating birds nesting areas during their season. That video was pretty bad - there were heaps of birds and they looked pretty distirbed.
If they have been using a place for thousands of years to rest after migration because it is suitable due to lack of predators etc - so much so that the place is an instinctual nesting place and by disturbing them there can massivly damage the species, then I think they should not be disturbed. Rather than risk a blanket ban on kiting the area (lets face it you can never enforce local guidelines on visitors and waankers) Why not suggest a ban during the nesting period? If it's only for 6 weeks? or a certain month or whatever the birds win and you don't lose your spot for good.
Cal
Cal
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Cal Cal
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8 Jul 2009 11:57am
What is this topic all about?? Seems the vital informatin was deleted!
myusernam
myusernam
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QLD, 6160 posts
8 Jul 2009 12:40pm
think he didn't get the reponses he was after so he deleted the original post?
decay
decay
99 posts
99 posts
8 Jul 2009 4:10pm
Yeah - sorry - I did get the response I was looking for - some of it was off forum too.

I deleted the post as I did consider some of the content could have fueled anti-kiters in other area/countries or could have been used as examples by them.

Best that it didn't stay of record in here for the rest of time?

Cheers

Dave Kay
Ruakaka
New Zealand
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