Kitesurfing Guidelines & General Rules

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spw2000
spw2000
VIC
77 posts
VIC, 77 posts
26 May 2009 10:46am
I believe there is a discussion on this topic elsewhere but probably needs some focussed attention so here goes:

1) Kiters (and windsurfers) ARE subject to boating rules - so the more we ignore the 50m (from shore. swimmers and obstacles) clearance rule the more likely we will be banned from some of our favourite locations - in general councils will find it simpler to ban than negotiate a compromise - luckily there are some notable exceptions.

One current point of contention is the 5 knot rule - have yet to see a kiter on a board at 5 knots so this is one point which is under much discussion with "the authorities".

2) Starboard Rule DOES apply - the essentials are: When vessels (= kiters) approach from opposite directions the kiter who has the wind on the starboard (ie hitting their right side, where right leg/arm are leading in the direction of travel, heelside with back to wind of-course) has right of way. The kiter who has the wind on the port side (ie left side, where left leg/arm are leading in the direction of travel) shall keep out of the way of the other.

In sailing terms, a sailor or kiter with right of way is entitled to "insist" on exercising that right (warning opposing kiters) by shouting "starboard" very clearly and in good time. Swearing at each other is not considered a good alternative.

3) Kite High Rule (this is kiting-specific but is part of the general safe practice guidelines) - A kiter who is upwind (closest to the wind) must keep their kite high in the wind window so as to avoid their lines crossing those of a kiter who is downwind of them. Similarly, the downwind kiter must keep their kite low in the wind window so as to avoid their lines crossing the upwind kite. This applies regardless of whether the kiters are on the same, or opposing courses.

4) Clearance Rule (another kiting-specific one) - A kiter must have a clear safety zone of at least 50m downwind because he moves downwind when he jumps; a rider must also have a clear safety zone of 30m upwind to jump as his lines could touch the kite or the lines of another rider kiteboarding close by (see Kite High rule).

None of the above supercede the standard boating rules about distances from other vessels (kiters, windsurfers) etc. Also, in general, the "more agile" vessel must give way to the "less agile" so in the same way a yacht must give way to a tanker, so a kiter and windsurfer must consider agility when determining who has right of way - and depending on the wind and ability this is not always an obvious distinction which is why kiters and windsurfers tend to keep to their own areas.

While we have yet to see standard kiting legislation (hopefully we will behave enough to avoid this becoming necessary) the default to resolve any uncertainty/debate is "whatever applies to yachts applies to us". When in doubt give way gracefully - the simplest policy.

I know this is mostly "preaching to the converted" but I have seen that there are many amongst us that still need to be converted...
So, having aired that - lets start the free-for-all......
:)
John 23rd
John 23rd
QLD
8 posts
QLD, 8 posts
26 May 2009 11:17am
Give way to a kiter or anyone riding a breaking wave is a good rule to go by if your kiting in the surf
rhinoman
rhinoman
QLD
362 posts
QLD, 362 posts
26 May 2009 12:10pm
let me guess you sit in an office ,because every thing sounds good on paper,but its the real world out there ,and people don't think back to the rules they read at the start of their kiting adventure . i also thought we came under the classification of a sailing vessel so this is were the boating rules change some what
evlPanda
evlPanda
NSW
9207 posts
NSW, 9207 posts
26 May 2009 1:20pm
spw2000 said...


I know this is mostly "preaching to the converted" but I have seen that there are many amongst us that still need to be converted...


Only when you accidentally post it in the Windsurfing forum

Danger Mouse
Danger Mouse
WA
592 posts
WA, 592 posts
26 May 2009 1:31pm
How about this as a rule:

Being able to throw an S-Bend or a Mobe doesn't suddenly mean that everyone has to get out of your way and you can act like as much of a wa**er as you want.

D
TurtleHunter
TurtleHunter
WA
1675 posts
WA, 1675 posts
26 May 2009 8:52pm
John 23rd said...

Give way to a kiter or anyone riding a breaking wave is a good rule to go by if your kiting in the surf

So what is surf? Knee high closeout shorebreak? I'd much prefer to hit it on the way out.(starboard tack even).
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
26 May 2009 9:13pm
TurtleHunter said...

John 23rd said...

Give way to a kiter or anyone riding a breaking wave is a good rule to go by if your kiting in the surf

So what is surf? Knee high closeout shorebreak? I'd much prefer to hit it on the way out.(starboard tack even).



True that.
Fooosh
Fooosh
WA
563 posts
WA, 563 posts
26 May 2009 9:17pm
rhinoman said...

let me guess you sit in an office ,because every thing sounds good on paper,but its the real world out there ,and people don't think back to the rules they read at the start of their kiting adventure . i also thought we came under the classification of a sailing vessel so this is were the boating rules change some what


In my real world, I try to avoid a collision or entanglement.

Unless I'm match racing, I don't think I'll be shouting 'starboard' or anything else at another water user.

seafever17
seafever17
WA
360 posts
WA, 360 posts
26 May 2009 10:10pm
How about people wearing shorts over wetsuits have to give way to any one in shorts or wetsuits.....aaaah the law of the sea
John 23rd
John 23rd
QLD
8 posts
QLD, 8 posts
27 May 2009 12:29am
TurtleHunter said...

John 23rd said...

Give way to a kiter or anyone riding a breaking wave is a good rule to go by if your kiting in the surf

So what is surf? Knee high closeout shorebreak? I'd much prefer to hit it on the way out.(starboard tack even).



If you dont know what surf is or what a person surfing a wave looks like just stick to the flat water and you will be safe
getfunky
getfunky
WA
4485 posts
WA, 4485 posts
27 May 2009 3:12pm
D_Meredith79 said...

How about this as a rule:

Being able to throw an S-Bend or a Mobe doesn't suddenly mean that everyone has to get out of your way and you can act like as much of a wa**er as you want.

D


Wot ee sed

I would also like to add:

Being on a surfboard does not mean you can snake in and steal the run on a wave that a twin-tip rider is already riding and clearly has priority on. If ANY rider is in the zone then kn bugger orf and wait ya turn.
Morg
Morg
QLD
129 posts
QLD, 129 posts
27 May 2009 5:53pm
Fair call there are rules but said rules need to be area specific.
My local would be useless if we had to follow the rules stated above. If it's anything under about a 2.5m high tide we'd be up the far bank if you had to keep 50m away.

Also, our local does not get a single beach goer other than us (local kiters) during the week. Seriously the place is deserted so who isn't going to kite like a maniac when nobody is around to hurt/pi$$ off.

The real issue here isn't rules but people having the common sense to know when it's appropriate to act like a dick and when it's not.

I couldn't care less if some kook nails himself but I do care if he nails someone else, especialy a member of the public and our local gets shut down. Pain will ensue for the tourist kiter that gets our spot shut down.

KiteDevil
KiteDevil
TAS
778 posts
TAS, 778 posts
27 May 2009 9:11pm
sir ROWDY said...

TurtleHunter said...

John 23rd said...

Give way to a kiter or anyone riding a breaking wave is a good rule to go by if your kiting in the surf

So what is surf? Knee high closeout shorebreak? I'd much prefer to hit it on the way out.(starboard tack even).



True that.


He said "Give way". Fair call. Go for a hit heading out if you want to, just don't do it on the same wave that someone else is on. Even doing it to the wave in front of someone else can be cheeky.
TurtleHunter
TurtleHunter
WA
1675 posts
WA, 1675 posts
27 May 2009 9:39pm
KiteDevil said...

sir ROWDY said...

TurtleHunter said...

John 23rd said...

Give way to a kiter or anyone riding a breaking wave is a good rule to go by if your kiting in the surf

So what is surf? Knee high closeout shorebreak? I'd much prefer to hit it on the way out.(starboard tack even).



True that.


He said "Give way". Fair call. Go for a hit heading out if you want to, just don't do it on the same wave that someone else is on. Even doing it to the wave in front of someone else can be cheeky.


So someone doing a wiggle in front of a ankle high wave is surfing.
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