Leash for board.

> 10 years ago
Reply
Register to post, see what you've read, and subscribe to topics.
bigboard
bigboard
27 posts
27 posts
27 May 2007 9:20pm
Hi all. I'm new to surf kiting, but am experienced at other traction kite sports. Will I need a leash for my board once I start using it? I've noticed that some of the kiters on my local bay loose their boards and they get caught in the tidal currents. This causes them some trouble trying to spot the board and retrieve it. If I do need a leash, what length should I get, 6,7,8, or 9 feet? Thanks.
lovey
lovey
NSW
177 posts
NSW, 177 posts
28 May 2007 7:25am
Unless you want to perform a do-it-yourself lobotomy, give the leashes a miss.

I used a normal surfboard leash when learning, and more often than not it became a missile after crashing. you'll be surprised how quickly you'll learn to body drag upwind to retrieve lost boards, and in most cases if you can't get to it another kiter will
user
user
WA
1140 posts
WA, 1140 posts
28 May 2007 6:10am
Get a Reel Leash.

They are retractable 10 ft long.

NEVER use a regular surfboard leash !
insomniac_alcoholic
insomniac_alcoholic
WA
190 posts
WA, 190 posts
28 May 2007 7:10am
.......... and if you use any leash, make sure you get a decent helmet.

And another tip for those new to the forum, this question has been asked once or twice before so if you chuck "leash" in the searh function you're bound to come up with pages of advice.

Cheers
Blownaway
Blownaway
QLD
776 posts
QLD, 776 posts
28 May 2007 11:42am
Dont do the leash thing....repeat....DONT
Mr float
Mr float
NSW
3452 posts
NSW, 3452 posts
28 May 2007 12:24pm
I'll see if i can find the photo of the guys half removed ear who was using a reel leash

quote:
Originally posted by user

Get a Reel Leash.

They are retractable 10 ft long.

NEVER use a regular surfboard leash !

xtortya
xtortya
WA
322 posts
WA, 322 posts
28 May 2007 10:45am
i used a reel leash and got knocked out, still got the scar on my forehead. A helmet wouldn't have made any difference where i got hit......so be really careful if you do end up getting one. Don't even think of using a surfboard leash unless your super hardcore and was going to jump off a cliff afterwards anyway.
BoDiddly
BoDiddly
VIC
622 posts
VIC, 622 posts
28 May 2007 12:58pm
Yeah, usual story, learning in 2002, had a leash, (same day thought why do I wear this helmet every time?) still put my lid on anyway, ate it pretty well when I got my head out of the water thought 'where's my board?' not a second later nails me in the back of the head - 'that's why I wear the helmet' and damn can't wait to not have to use a leash anymore!

Now a happy kiter with no leash!
xtortya
xtortya
WA
322 posts
WA, 322 posts
28 May 2007 12:02pm
when you've practiced body dragging back to your board, it doesn't take long at all to get to it. sometimes the body drag gives you a bit of time to recover after a killer smash as well.
Charl dv
Charl dv
WA
2485 posts
WA, 2485 posts
28 May 2007 12:33pm
if u really want a leash get a GO JO... their stick on foamy things that keeps ur board upright and blows downwind slowly so its easier 2 retrieve, its also bright yellow so i doubt ull miss it. and best thing it is not atachd 2 u :)
jquigley
jquigley
WA
205 posts
WA, 205 posts
28 May 2007 2:34pm
Another tip: put your name and number on your board. I think just about everyone has a lost board story to tell. I lost mine about 50 metres off the beach after the wind dropped off, kite fell in the water then wind turned offshore and by the time I'd sorted the kite out board had disappeared. Lucky for me a bloke picked it up while 4WD'ing about 80k's up the coast (Moore River) and gave me a ring to come pick it up. A bottle of bourbon as a token of gratitude and everyone was happy.

Definitely give the leash a miss regardless of the risk of getting separated from your board. I bought my first kite from a guy who got his leg sliced open by board while wearing a 2 metre surfboard style leash. Ouch!!
meerkat
meerkat
WA
644 posts
WA, 644 posts
28 May 2007 3:17pm
100% definitely get a leash. Best type to use are ones made out of barbed wire fences, that way when the board hits you in the spine the barbs will wrap around your neck and you won't fell any pain.
Blaster
Blaster
WA
501 posts
WA, 501 posts
28 May 2007 3:40pm
Welcome bigboard.

What a surprize, someone posts for some info and what happens, everyone else uses it as a comic relief.

I also wondered at first about leashes, why does everyone insist on retreiving their board by body dragging. Well I understand now and would strongly suggets as everyone did to me, learn to body drag before venturing to water out of your depth. But saying that if you have big tides and other conditions that make losing your board highly likely, then get a reel leash and helmet or a go joe as stated.

Here's a thread I started a few months ago
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=27582&SearchTerms=go,joe

GL
bmac
bmac
VIC
40 posts
VIC, 40 posts
28 May 2007 6:28pm
Hey I'm sure I'll get sledged hardcore for my pro-reel-leash views, but I can't see how you can get into too much trouble with one. Open my eyes if I'm being niaeve. No matter how hard I've eaten it I don't think I've ever had the leash to it's full extension (the point where it could possibly catapault back to you). If I stack that hard I just let go of everything so I'm not gonna get dragged ridiculously far/fast. Usually once I sort my self out the board is simply bobbing back towards me several metres away. That said, I always wear a helmet too and would NEVER use a surfboard leash. Especially while trying new stuff and stacking heaps I reckon the real leash is great.
let the sledging begin....!

...and now for some
meerkat
meerkat
WA
644 posts
WA, 644 posts
28 May 2007 4:44pm
its not about sledging, its about common sense. Do you walk around with a loaded gun, weyhey!, in your pocket and hope the safety works?

chances are one day it won't and "snap" there goes your spine or "oh bugger where did my achilles tendon go?"

You will need to learn how to body drag anyway so whats the hurry? too many newbies heading out underprepared and in the wrong conditions.

rant over.
bigboard
bigboard
27 posts
27 posts
28 May 2007 8:46pm
Thanks all for the quick and numerous replies. I enjoyed the thread and came away with a definative answer to my question!!! How rare for an internet forum experience. I would think that doing a search might not have been so entertaining. Not only that I wonder if the excellent suggestion of putting my name and number on the board before entering the water might have come up. When it comes to body dragging, I would like to know if anyone ever does it while hooked in with the harness.
xtortya
xtortya
WA
322 posts
WA, 322 posts
28 May 2007 8:56pm
not hooked into the harness?????
manicskier
manicskier
VIC
772 posts
VIC, 772 posts
28 May 2007 10:58pm
Yeah, of course, your hooked in most of the time so that you can depower and control the kite. You also fly the kite with the top hand and use the other to steer yourself upwind, its easy to learn
echostorm
echostorm
QLD
1245 posts
QLD, 1245 posts
28 May 2007 11:04pm
LEASH = CRACKED SKULL Ive seen it soo many times. Not that long ago a guy we were out with got 10 stiches. Just learn to body drag upwind its way easy.
manicskier
manicskier
VIC
772 posts
VIC, 772 posts
28 May 2007 11:22pm
Another shrine to sprucey
Blaster
Blaster
WA
501 posts
WA, 501 posts
28 May 2007 9:45pm
If you got a "bigboard" it will be easier to find!!!haha sorry

But in all seriousness, go the go jo or similar to start and definitely put your name, address and phone number on the boardwould also pay to write reward if found. Coughing up a bottle or carton is better than $500-$1000 for replacement board
Charl dv
Charl dv
WA
2485 posts
WA, 2485 posts
28 May 2007 10:30pm
quote:
Originally posted by bmac

Hey I'm sure I'll get sledged hardcore for my pro-reel-leash views, but I can't see how you can get into too much trouble with one. Open my eyes if I'm being niaeve. No matter how hard I've eaten it I don't think I've ever had the leash to it's full extension (the point where it could possibly catapault back to you). If I stack that hard I just let go of everything so I'm not gonna get dragged ridiculously far/fast. Usually once I sort my self out the board is simply bobbing back towards me several metres away. That said, I always wear a helmet too and would NEVER use a surfboard leash. Especially while trying new stuff and stacking heaps I reckon the real leash is great.
let the sledging begin....!

...and now for some


yeah i used to use one until mine luckily snapped. i was told soon after by one of the townsville locals that he knew a guy hu broke his tail bone or back or sumfing whn he got lofted and landed on the casing of the reel leash, also if they wrap around ur legs and kite powers up ur probably gona end up not being able 2 use those bad boys again!!

and as fr body draggin definitly hooked in, kite slightly depowered at edge of windo n use ur front hand as a keel to get you cutting upwind by putting it out straight infront of you in the water. u can also try swimming while being pulled by the kite i do that n normally get my board within 2 to 3 drags
carbine
carbine
WA
1450 posts
WA, 1450 posts
29 May 2007 12:57am
do wat i do and alot of my mates including spacemonkey.

Get a nice bait casting fishing reel with an adjustable brake on it. and mount it to the side of your harness with a wichard quick release shackle (incase of an emergency).

I prefer to use Spectra line. My reel is able to hold 100 yards of 20lb monofilament line. 20lb spectra has a diameter similar to that of 8lb monofilament, so that same reel will be able to hold more than twice the amount of line of the same strength rating. So i use a 20lb Spectra line and get over 200yards of line which i have found is more then adequate for kite surfing applications.

When riding along i set the brake tension up so no line feeds out. Sometimes if u crash some line will get out, all you need to do is wind a bit in. So the tension is perfectly set at the minimum tension needed.

When you crash the board will get taken away and the reel will spin out, as much as it wants. No chance of the board sling shotting at you!!!!!

Now here comes the ingenious part. To get your board back you just start winding it in with the reel! This is where a nice gear ratioed reel comes in handy to make it easier to do. I prefers at least 10:1 but my buddy Spacemonkey goes with a 6:1 (He is very strong) .

Sometimes your board can end up 50m away, but its no trouble just winding it in and i find it is quite a good workout for my arm muscles. You might get a little tired if your board ends up a fair distance away, so its a good idea to bring some refreshment with you incase you get thirsty from all that reeling, definitely a cammel back is advised or atleast a couple box juices or a Gatorade velcroed to your arm, my friend Spacemonkey enjoys a chocolate milk when he is out.

I was in a situation where my friend lost his board downwind of me in an offshore breeze, it was not windy enough to ride my board upwind if i had gotten out to it. So I quickly attached the real leash to a pole pm the beach, rode downwind to the board, go it, then started winding myself in with the reel. I have no doubt the board would it have been lost if it wasn't for my trusty bait casting fishing reel. THANKS FISHING REEL!!!


I believe all kiters should ride with a fishing reel because they are invaluable in an emergency. You would be stupid not to have one. I am writing to aksa asking that riders must wear a fishing reel if they are to become aksa members.
treedweller
treedweller
QLD
59 posts
QLD, 59 posts
29 May 2007 7:08pm
carbine you are a bastard,i was laughing my ass off in a public internet place.i have never been so entertained on this site..and i have followed the spruces work so that is saying somting. thanks.
Spacemonkey!
Spacemonkey!
SA
2288 posts
SA, 2288 posts
29 May 2007 8:07pm
Buy a 4kg bucket of protein powder, your guns will thnk you for it. Then you can get mega buff and be extreme at the same time.

Ok I will let you in on a secret, I have been experimenting with my new board made out of stainless steel. I went to the wreckers and scavanged a cheap old car battery 10$ max. I then attached some wires around a metal rod and attached them to the battery, hey presto electro magnet. I also made a switch in the wires so i could turn my electromagnet on and off. Ok I put this in a shopping bag and did it up real tight to make sure no water got in. I put some glad wrap around the pole and some alliminum foil around the very end.

Ok so now I been tieing this to my back with octopus straps so now when I fall off my board I just flick the switch and like magic the board is retrieved. I been working on some board off tricks with this device but so far havent got the coordintion right.

Off the record that is, keep it down low.
jquigley
jquigley
WA
205 posts
WA, 205 posts
29 May 2007 10:08pm
Jokes aside, I'm actually working on a prototype board that has a small electric motor with a jet unit and directional control built into it so's it can find it's way to you when you come off.

Water gets sucked in thru a port at one end of the board and then jetted out of two parralel fins at the other end. A miniature GPS unit and transponder give it the option of either being programmed to return to the rider when the board reaches a certain distance from the rider or returning to home if it's lost. All solar powered so it'll be good for the environment and I'm gonna get it mass produced in China so it'll be 'cheap as', probably cost less than a second hand volvo.

bigboard
bigboard
27 posts
27 posts
30 May 2007 7:58pm
quote:
Originally posted by Blaster

If you got a "bigboard" it will be easier to find!!!haha sorry

But in all seriousness, go the go jo or similar to start and definitely put your name, address and phone number on the boardwould also pay to write reward if found. Coughing up a bottle or carton is better than $500-$1000 for replacement board

Thanks all, I appreciate the answers here, but wonder do boards really cost that much? If so, now I know why a guy and his son who frequent the bay (pictured in my avatar) have been making their own. Whatever, I'm still all wrapped up with windsurfing there. Some day I'll pick up a big LEI Bow to start the body dragging.
Charl dv
Charl dv
WA
2485 posts
WA, 2485 posts
30 May 2007 11:34pm
hmm because they prolly like the projects or find it cheaper. yeah new boards cost round 800-1350 or sumfing crazy like that (shinns i think) u pay for quality
Please Register, or first...
Topics Subscribe Reply