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INTHELOOP
INTHELOOP
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20 May 2011 8:26am


cant wait till we get to see and fly the 2012 Vegas. It has surely been one of the peoples favorite kites in 2010/2011. Looks like it has got a one pump for 2012.




wdk
wdk
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20 May 2011 10:10am
Looks like it's made from offcuts.
GalahOnTheBay
GalahOnTheBay
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20 May 2011 1:09pm
Vegas baby! Oh wait...

That has got to be the worst looking kite since the Smellfish. Let's hope it flies well...
h20fly
h20fly
WA
384 posts
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20 May 2011 11:31am
huh... north said they were going to keep the red trailing edge on all kites from now on so you can recognise a north kite.. obviously changed their mind.. i kinda like the off cuts look though.. seems not many share my opinion :)
Prawnhead
Prawnhead
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20 May 2011 1:36pm



no prizes for guessing where they got the graphics inspiration
Mr float
Mr float
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20 May 2011 2:33pm
Prawnhead said...




no prizes for guessing where they got the graphics inspiration


Its called recycling from last years/this years (I'm confused what year are we in anyway?) unsold kites and the factory next doors scraps .It should be called the eco vegas and they should include their recycling credentials in it's promotion
jkiter
jkiter
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20 May 2011 2:37pm
Looks like S#*T. nice creases in canopy from badly designed attachment points.
And the colors yes they only appeal to euros.
And are they only getting one pump in 2012?? slingshot had it when? 2005 or something.and every other decent manufacturer has had a one pump system for years now. Why the hell would anyone buy a kite in the last 4 years that doesn't have one pump.
Chris_M
Chris_M
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20 May 2011 2:13pm
Ha ha the kite needs a side pony
1likeBJ
1likeBJ
WA
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20 May 2011 3:57pm
jkiter said...

Looks like S#*T. nice creases in canopy from badly designed attachment points.

Agreed - most manufacturers making 5-lines weeded this out within a year.


jkiter said...

Why the hell would anyone buy a kite in the last 4 years that doesn't have one pump.

Yaaah but zis is ze altimaat performance kite yaaah? Vy vould you vont to add weight to ze kite?
Saffer
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GalahOnTheBay
GalahOnTheBay
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20 May 2011 11:06pm


Bahahahaha! Gold!
JY77
JY77
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21 May 2011 2:08am
what colour does this new kite come in? Or Doesn't come in?
woodys
woodys
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21 May 2011 1:23am



You would have to hope this is an R&D prototype.
Apart from the colours whats with the puckering & ugly patchwork gusset around the front wingtip pig-tail ????
Doesnt look like the normal North quality construction at all.
Looks more like a home-made kite.
Be interested to see the finished product when it hits the beach.
bjw
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21 May 2011 11:30am
Galah - best photo ever!

That kite will go great with my latest Justin Beiber Live DVD.
INTHELOOP
INTHELOOP
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1855 posts
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21 May 2011 12:02pm
you guys can argue about color tastes but you can be certain that the Vegas 2012 will again be one of the most flown and liked kites out there next year. Vegas quality is outstanding. Must be the strongest build kites no doubt. The D2 canopy material is bomb proof and rigid as.
Top aussie riders like: Chrissy, Samantha, Dan the man, Rico, Lucas.. rip with Vegas.

KnutH
KnutH
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21 May 2011 8:17pm
I'm diggin those graphics - it's called "Vegas" after all, and we are in a flashy funky sport anyway.
Maybe I am confirming "Euro" stereotypes here (Eurodance best music ever imo), but that's cool wif me.
Charl dv
Charl dv
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22 May 2011 12:01am
INTHELOOP said...

you guys can argue about color tastes but you can be certain that the Vegas 2012 will again be one of the most flown and liked kites out there next year. Vegas quality is outstanding. Must be the strongest build kites no doubt. The D2 canopy material is bomb proof and rigid as.
Top aussie riders like: Chrissy, Samantha, Dan the man, Rico, Lucas.. rip with Vegas.




QUICK we need to defend north's honor... TO THE PIMP MOBILE


i really dont get why people froth on the vegas so much, it's such a poos kite in so many ways, looks gay, flies gay, feels gay... people must only ride them because their heros ride them and their heros ride them because its the only company that would pay them enough. sooooooooooooooooooooooo many better kites out there.
dachopper
dachopper
WA
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22 May 2011 11:02am
jkiter said...

Looks like S#*T. nice creases in canopy from badly designed attachment points.
And the colors yes they only appeal to euros.
And are they only getting one pump in 2012?? slingshot had it when? 2005 or something.and every other decent manufacturer has had a one pump system for years now. Why the hell would anyone buy a kite in the last 4 years that doesn't have one pump.


Because one pump is crap!
Especially on a performance kite..... like driving an automatic race car.

North bought it out back in 05/06 also, and just like with slingshot the valves leaked and it was not received well, so they stopped it on the performance model, and just put it out occasionally on the lesser models.

I would not be surprised if in fact it is released without the one pump - as the 08 vegas had some kites with and some without one pump... the ones with had valve issues.

It also weighs the kite down which makes a noticeable difference in light winds
KnutH
KnutH
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22 May 2011 2:24pm
dachopper said...

jkiter said...

Looks like S#*T. nice creases in canopy from badly designed attachment points.
And the colors yes they only appeal to euros.
And are they only getting one pump in 2012?? slingshot had it when? 2005 or something.and every other decent manufacturer has had a one pump system for years now. Why the hell would anyone buy a kite in the last 4 years that doesn't have one pump.

Because one pump is crap!
Especially on a performance kite..... like driving an automatic race car.
.....
It also weighs the kite down which makes a noticeable difference in light winds

Sure..
The kite pulls my 90kg around, but the 50g added weight of a one pump system make a noticeable difference.
Since you are using that automatic race car analogy, I assume your kiting skills are seriously top notch. Maybe one pump systems account for 0.5% less slack when going for triple passes?
dachopper
dachopper
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22 May 2011 1:15pm
KnutH said...

dachopper said...

jkiter said...

Looks like S#*T. nice creases in canopy from badly designed attachment points.
And the colors yes they only appeal to euros.
And are they only getting one pump in 2012?? slingshot had it when? 2005 or something.and every other decent manufacturer has had a one pump system for years now. Why the hell would anyone buy a kite in the last 4 years that doesn't have one pump.

Because one pump is crap!
Especially on a performance kite..... like driving an automatic race car.
.....
It also weighs the kite down which makes a noticeable difference in light winds

Sure..
The kite pulls my 90kg around, but the 50g added weight of a one pump system make a noticeable difference.
Since you are using that automatic race car analogy, I assume your kiting skills are seriously top notch. Maybe one pump systems account for 0.5% less slack when going for triple passes?


He asked y the Vegas hasn't had 1 pump yet, and that's my opinion. It's obviously built for people who can't be bothered pumping up 5 or 6 valves right?
It still is extra stuff hanging off a performance kite, so it's something else that will fail in time & it weighs the kite down.

I know as I owned a 1 pump Vegas and it was a pain in the A&^$ when it started failing.

As far as the weight goes, my 12 Vegas only weighs 3.6kg with 5th line fitted . I would imagine that 5 extra valves, 5 clips & 5 sets of rubber hose would weigh more that 50G. Either way if I could feel it .... you all will.
cwamit
cwamit
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22 May 2011 6:11pm
lol @ comments on kite colors, sure they look shyte but who gives a flying fk...as long as it doesn't fly like a pile , its all good!

last years new valves in the struts where good although at first i thought they where a bit crap, they hold and seal better than previous models, seems odd to change for change sake, that is kite companies for you i guess if it is true they are going one pump, i had no strut leakage for a week when i rolled up the kite and left the struts up in the bag which is faster to pack up and also inflate than letting individual struts down or pumping up in single inflation -you can leave the struts up on single inflation but defeats its purpose , individual inflation also has less hassles for the life of a kite IMHO.

Charl dv
Charl dv
WA
2485 posts
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22 May 2011 11:03pm
because north needs every milli gram of performance they can scrounge up, that piece of one pump tubing just lost it 2000 performance points. cant tell you how many times i was being radical and stuff where the one pump hoses threw the balance of my kite off and sent it to lunch making me dangle its rediculous.
dachopper
dachopper
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23 May 2011 7:52am
Charl dv said...

because north needs every milli gram of performance they can scrounge up, that piece of one pump tubing just lost it 2000 performance points. cant tell you how many times i was being radical and stuff where the one pump hoses threw the balance of my kite off and sent it to lunch making me dangle its rediculous.



I had a side tube deflate my 3 main bladders when the one pump non return valve failed...... yeah it threw me off a bit, but I was still able to throw down some awesomeness, purely because the vegas... like chuck norris, doesn't need bladders to fly.


they should leave the one pump to the lazy seat harness wearing bowmen of our day.........
Charl dv
Charl dv
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23 May 2011 1:30pm
dachopper said...

Charl dv said...

because north needs every milli gram of performance they can scrounge up, that piece of one pump tubing just lost it 2000 performance points. cant tell you how many times i was being radical and stuff where the one pump hoses threw the balance of my kite off and sent it to lunch making me dangle its rediculous.



I had a side tube deflate my 3 main bladders when the one pump non return valve failed...... yeah it threw me off a bit, but I was still able to throw down some awesomeness, purely because the vegas... like chuck norris, doesn't need bladders to fly.


they should leave the one pump to the lazy seat harness wearing bowmen of our day.........


only happened because north made it a **** system

i really dont get why people froth on these kites at all,..
GalahOnTheBay
GalahOnTheBay
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4188 posts
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23 May 2011 5:47pm
cwamit said...

lol @ comments on kite colors, sure they look shyte but who gives a flying fk...as long as it doesn't fly like a pile , its all good!


I hear you - if it flies great then no-one will care...

Charl dv said...

because north needs every milli gram of performance they can scrounge up, that piece of one pump tubing just lost it 2000 performance points. cant tell you how many times i was being radical and stuff where the one pump hoses threw the balance of my kite off and sent it to lunch making me dangle its rediculous.


lol Charl - too true though...
Charl dv
Charl dv
WA
2485 posts
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23 May 2011 9:04pm
GalahOnTheBay said...

cwamit said...

lol @ comments on kite colors, sure they look shyte but who gives a flying fk...as long as it doesn't fly like a pile , its all good!


I hear you - if it flies great then no-one will care...

Charl dv said...

because north needs every milli gram of performance they can scrounge up, that piece of one pump tubing just lost it 2000 performance points. cant tell you how many times i was being radical and stuff where the one pump hoses threw the balance of my kite off and sent it to lunch making me dangle its rediculous.


lol Charl - too true though...


definitely not my ridings fault though
dachopper
dachopper
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24 May 2011 7:51am
Charl dv said...

dachopper said...

Charl dv said...

because north needs every milli gram of performance they can scrounge up, that piece of one pump tubing just lost it 2000 performance points. cant tell you how many times i was being radical and stuff where the one pump hoses threw the balance of my kite off and sent it to lunch making me dangle its rediculous.



I had a side tube deflate my 3 main bladders when the one pump non return valve failed...... yeah it threw me off a bit, but I was still able to throw down some awesomeness, purely because the vegas... like chuck norris, doesn't need bladders to fly.


they should leave the one pump to the lazy seat harness wearing bowmen of our day.........


only happened because north made it is a **** system

i really dont get why people froth on these kites at all,..


Some people will never understand, it's on only for the enlightened :)
Saffer
Saffer
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24 May 2011 8:14pm
The north designer being interviewed by the BBC for those who missed it on my previous link



bencantley
bencantley
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1 Jun 2011 6:37pm
not a fan... liked the look of the 2010 shouldve kept that :) thats why i love wainman because they fly well and every year the design looks great ;)
Taurus
Taurus
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3 Jun 2011 1:11am
Any changes on the bar?
fsamir
fsamir
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10 Jun 2011 7:18pm
My 2 cents:
1. One pump: North is trying to make it more appealing to regular riders, but one pump is a threat if you crash the kite too many times.

2. I was reluctant to buy the Vegas 2011 because of the teenager style colors, but my experience with the 2009 model was so good that I thought the colors would be a silly reason for not buying a great kite. It turns out, that after a couple rides I started liking the colors. In a crowded place it is nice to be easily distinguished.

3. I had partnership in a kiteshop back in Brazil and tried all models from Best, Fone, Flexifoil, North and since the Vegas 2009, I find the kite feeling a way better than the other models. It is simply easier do make powered unhooked tricks with this kite. So, try it before making assumptions based on visual stuff.

4. If I had to complain about North, the colors and lack of one pump are nothing compared to other problems.
- Weak lines. If you crash a north with any other brand, the north lines will lose. It still happens with 2011's
- Excellent construction, but with a **** tissue. I can't complain about that in the 2011 model because it is only 4 months old. However, the other models ended full of micro holes due to usage.

- The bar is way to fancy for a freestyle kite, to many plastic and metal parts to get your fingers hurt when unhooking/hooking. (on the other hand if you think about design and material quality the bar is great)
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