Maroubra ban

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strapped
strapped
NSW
171 posts
NSW, 171 posts
5 Sep 2007 7:07pm
I have been sailing Maroubra for more than 5 years and am now being told by the beach inspectors that it is all over. Worst thing is that it is not locals or even Aussies who cause the problems but euros who want to learn to kite in the waves and do big jumps, at one of Sydney's most crowded beaches. The beach inspectors are not happy about idiots launching in the flags, riding through the flags and packs of surfers, kiters sneaking onto the beach (because you need insurance), not reporting in then kiting an area where they shouldn't.
To all you wobbling tossers, thanks for ruining my home break for me and my mates.
Sean
junglist
junglist
VIC
701 posts
VIC, 701 posts
5 Sep 2007 7:19pm
Bummer mate

Sign of the times though, I can see the day coming when we are banned from most popular spots.

Have you tried contacting the council to see if the ban is official?
Mr float
Mr float
NSW
3452 posts
NSW, 3452 posts
5 Sep 2007 8:36pm
hang on a tick .Things like this has happened in other areas and the kiting community have got together to save a spot .Lets help our bros in bra .
brooksy
brooksy
WA
498 posts
WA, 498 posts
6 Sep 2007 7:16am
Same thing in Cottesloe, WA threatened to happen, and we came to an agreement that only AKSA members are allowed to kite there, and they must have their AKSA tag displayed.

Try this approach with signage at the beach and you should be able to get it back.

Get on to your local club...
keilani
keilani
QLD
84 posts
QLD, 84 posts
6 Sep 2007 9:34am
just get those thugs the bra boys to help you ,im sure they could negotiate with guns for you
Tbaggn
Tbaggn
NSW
57 posts
NSW, 57 posts
6 Sep 2007 10:44am
Like junglist said, you need to contact the local council to see of the ban is official. It could be that the lifeguards think if they get the word around unofficially that the ban is in place, kiters will just accept it and stay away.
Uncle Rico
Uncle Rico
NSW
200 posts
NSW, 200 posts
6 Sep 2007 12:09pm
crap beach full of agressive ****ers

no loss as far as im concerned
strapped
strapped
NSW
171 posts
NSW, 171 posts
6 Sep 2007 6:15pm
It's good to know Uncle Rico that you support the loss of places to kite because you could not fit in or you got a hard time there. Dear, dear get yourself a tissue and don't dare visit places outside your local. I have surfed there my whole life and now kite and to be told I can't anymore is a horrible feeling. I would like you to feel it Uncle Dick but I think we have lost enough places in Sydney.
Flying Kiwi
Flying Kiwi
WA
258 posts
WA, 258 posts
18 Sep 2007 12:54pm
Strapped

Did the lifeguard tell you it was a permanent ban or just over the busy summer period?

Do you want me to change the information on the NSWKBA and AKSA websites?

Cheers
Gav
posko
posko
WA
179 posts
WA, 179 posts
18 Sep 2007 5:05pm
kite tourists should be officially called kite terrorists!!!


they have this problem the world over... as a full time travelling kiter i have taken it upon myself at each new place i kite to talk to schools, shops, locals and beach goers for at least an hour before pumping up... Not ever-one at every spot knows every rule... (this can be hard as my German is bad, Spanish well ok, French Non-existent, Italian well i get by...)

pin prick holes in leading edge bladders of Kite terrorists is legal! If they break beach rules!! Black eyes are legal if they do it twice

Sorry you have this problem i've surfed there in 2005 and was a super nice group of blokes there... despite what i've read in mags, forums and newspapers!

hope you get your beach back soon...

when Kobi Ab. is finished with his movie thingy in LA get him and a few lads into kiting and i'm sure the beach will be opened real soon and free of kite terrorists..
strapped
strapped
NSW
171 posts
NSW, 171 posts
19 Sep 2007 9:25pm
yeah Gav that would be a good start. The less people even trying might give us some hope. Also the beachies were saying that waterways is making some classification on kiters, have you heard about this?
amp
amp
67 posts
amp amp
67 posts
19 Sep 2007 9:19pm
find out who theya re and beat the **** out of them!
NSW, 4382 posts
20 Sep 2007 7:41pm
NSW Maritime have classified Kite surfers as vessels, same as they do windsurfers. I picked up the latest copy of the NSW Maritime Boating Handbook, and it mentions kitesurfers several times.
The handbook is free at all NSW Maritime offices.
Page 61 of the new book is dedicated to Kite Surfing, so we are officially on the radar now.

Kitesurfing is banned at beaches that display swimming signs, for 60M from the shoreline (kiters must not come closer than 60M to shore), all vessel "distance off" rules apply to kitesurfing, which means you cannot kite within 30M of a surfer (or swimmer) in the water .
Kitesurfing is banned for 500M out from the yellow/red flags, and 60M either side.
Kitesurfing is banned on all of Sydney Harbour, including Rose Bay and Neilson Park, according to the latest book.

The code of conduct which is published in the book is a co-operative and pro active action of the Australian Kite Surfing Association and NSW Maritime.
I would encourage all kitesurfers everywhere to be careful this summer, we are under the spotlight more than ever before.
And be really careful in Sydney (and Melbourne/forget the St Kilda slider guys unless you get permission, Perth, Adelaide, Brisbane) or any built up area popular with swmmers and surfers or other water users.

Be pro active in your area, warn all tourists and newbies, nicely of course.

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve
rooey
rooey
QLD
498 posts
QLD, 498 posts
20 Sep 2007 9:47pm
yea all ,the Noosa Riv/mth saga continues with a backing off of council to ban kiteing ,we too are under the spot light, kiteing on 'thin ice' so to speek.Just hope some scozza does'nt undoo that which has been achieved by a dedicated few who have worked hard during winter to convince the powers that be that we are a socialy tidy lot showing a level of responsibility that will maintain the rite of kiters to continue enjoying the river.Best of luck Strapped with the politics goin down at your end
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
20 Sep 2007 8:05pm
i reckon just BOSCH IT!!! seems to work with the clothes in my washing machine.
Daysleeper
Daysleeper
NSW
2 posts
NSW, 2 posts
1 Nov 2007 6:04pm
Any clarifications/updates on the Maroubra situation? Two people in the past two days have suggested that kiting is alive and well at this spot.

Just trying to do the right thing...
sci
sci
WA
762 posts
sci sci
WA, 762 posts
1 Nov 2007 4:56pm
Probably mates with the BRA boys!
kitebad
kitebad
NSW
74 posts
NSW, 74 posts
1 Nov 2007 8:34pm
Same thing at wanda in NEs , the clubees are pissed too! as well as surfers
complain to the beach inpectors , about being near run over,
I am a member of wanda surf club for 25yrs , surfed , windsurfered for 20 yrs
was in the crew of first kiteboarders to kitesurf wanda 7yrs ago , clubees ring me up to complain about kiteboarders ,
Please if you want to kite at wanda when the surf big no problems at all
but when the surfs small -med , a heap of kiters turn up , mix with the surfers
& ** they complain , complains which go to the Sutherland shire council .
1/ please give way to surfers
2/ say g_day as you edge close by & smile
i found this works , give a litte respect , and if you see kiters near the flags its us that tells then to get the fark off out of their ,
If you see sketchy learners tell them.
caged
caged
NSW
106 posts
NSW, 106 posts
2 Nov 2007 9:57am
When you kite at Wanda - go down the beach away from the surfers and windsurfers - the waves are just as good and there is less chance of incidents. The pack mentality seems to set in out there and everyone ends up on top of each other. Same goes for launching - there is no need to launch amongst all the punters. The windsurfers love wanda because its cross-off in a NE - and there is a lot of them - give them a bit of room - it´s not like its a tiny beach. Use your head - the one on your shoulders and we all will get along. enough ranting. peace out homies
strapped
strapped
NSW
171 posts
NSW, 171 posts
9 Nov 2007 5:26pm
The beachies have calmed down and we are allowed to kite there again but they are determined not to have the carry on that was happening. Only 3 kites are allowed in the water. No learners or people who don't surf. Report in to the beach inspectors before rigging. And if you are in the water and causing problems don't expect to be welcome by the locals.
Uncle Rico
Uncle Rico
NSW
200 posts
NSW, 200 posts
9 Nov 2007 7:25pm
i love it

people who dont surf!

exactly the attitude i was referring to!

you can keep your beach mate

wind driven
wind driven
NSW
84 posts
NSW, 84 posts
9 Nov 2007 8:55pm
Is there a test that you have to sit to define whether you can surf? Is being able to stand up on a long board sufficient or do you have to be able to do aerial re-entries? Who are the judges?
JEFFERSON
JEFFERSON
WA
72 posts
WA, 72 posts
9 Nov 2007 8:40pm
I think Strapped ment that if you don't actually ride the waves.... then you are not surfing. If all the kiters who just go in and out at every beach in the country stayed on the flat water, or out behind the break, then most of these type of situations would never arise because there would only be a handful of kiters on the water.

Generally the people who are actually riding the waves aren't the ones drifting into the flagged areas or trying to ride back out through the peak.

Surfers, windsurfers, body boarders, goat boaters etc etc have all come to agree on a system that works. That is, you take off at the peak and go back out through the channel and you go out of your way to give the guy on a wave some room. But unfortunately way to many kiters just don't get it, and they just don't get that they just don't get it.
strapped
strapped
NSW
171 posts
NSW, 171 posts
10 Nov 2007 9:48am
Uncle Rico has a thing about Maroubra which unfortunately he seems to blame the whole beach for one instance he has had. Poor fellow must be tough to hold a grudge for so long. How about we just let everybody loose in the surf on all our crowded beaches this summer, would that be better Uncle Pete.
Sorry that I didn't explain the obvious about those who can't surf so I will put a few of my thoughts about what it means, feel free to add, haha.
If you cannot ride over approaching white water without crashing your kite or losing your board.
If you cannot stay upwind in the waves and are continually walking back along a crowded beach.
If you do not know where a wave is going to peak or in which direction the wave is going to break.
If you do not know where to go when someone actually riding a wave is approaching you be they surfers, kiters, windsurfers etc...
These are a few examples only and I haven't even mentioned actual waveriding.

To be able to surf you don't have to be able to do aerials or be a shredder but to be able to surf you should be able to look at the waves you want to ride in and know that you and everyone who shares the waves with you will be safe. Also to know where and when you can go out due to altering conditions and situations and have a good understanding of your own ability and limitations.

Uncle Dicko I still have a box of tissues for you.
barry boosta
barry boosta
NSW
42 posts
NSW, 42 posts
10 Nov 2007 10:59pm
Following Uncle Rico...
Maroubra, **** beach full of aggresive bastards. Kiting should be banned there.
Wanda, old beach full of old farts. Kiting should be banned there too.
Bondi, posh beach full of rich pricks. Kiting is banned there.
Newport, gay beach full of whingers. Kiting should be banned there.

Drop knee or drop out.
andos
andos
NSW
69 posts
NSW, 69 posts
10 Nov 2007 11:54pm
I think that Barry has laid some solid cable in his post. I don't know if the local waterboard are releasing excess barrels of estrogen through the taps at Newport or what, but it does seem to be the hub for gay kiters. Good luck to them, whatever gets their psi up I suppose. Maroubra tends to play things a bit straighter by all accounts. Much more friendly at Newport it sounds like, I know where I'll be heading. C U there Uncle Rrrrrrr
Splaat
Splaat
NSW
131 posts
NSW, 131 posts
12 Nov 2007 5:32pm
Last year at Long reef a saw quite a few beginners go right through the flags and a few good riders come in at the flags when the wind dropped and they couldn't go upwind, this is a sure way to get your beaches baned. If any kiter sees a beginner or a kiter too close to the flags at there spot make sure you have a word to them about it.
chronic
chronic
NSW
318 posts
NSW, 318 posts
13 Nov 2007 9:18pm
a mate tried to go out on Monday {yesterday} and the beachies wouldn't let him go out...........its over
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