http://www.naishkites.com/sigma/helix/index.html

Ok they went live with a mini site devoted to the new Sigma kites, and there is no sign of a Torch C kite?
Demos avialable soon orders can be placed now.

And if you read the FAQ, you will see that there is going to be a 2008 Torch C shape kite, there ya go Dan you can stop sweating now!

Cya and

Goodwinds

Steve

Out of interest, has Naish patented the sigma shape like the bow guys patented the curved trailing edge shape?

Steve there is doubt I will be on sigma kite, the torch will be put to rest.

Now Im not sure which one to buy.

Cant wait

Thats not a hole its just the safety leash sitting behind the bar.

Slave I think you need some glasses, if that were running through the bar you would not be able to release the safety.

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Originally posted by waveslave

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Originally posted by Kitepower Australia
http://www.naishkites.com/sigma/helix/index.html

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Click on the above site.
Click HELIX.
Click Technology.
Click Control System.
lol.
Check out this piece of sh1t handle-bar.
Can they make it any more complicated ?
Count the ropes on your screen.
I'm counting 7....OMG
This bar is outthere, left-of-centre.
In fact, there's a hole (with rope thru it) about 2 inches left of centre.
I usually grip the bar right where that fken hole is.

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i agree slave it does look complicated, but check out above the (whatever the feck is that thing called?) its only 4 lines as usual, the extra linces down low are for safety is says, and on the steering lines apparently you can convert the line ratio easily too.

simply love your new avatar 'slave.

The 2008 Naish SLE control bar is no more complicated than any other years SLE bar. The only main difference is there is 2 Chicken loop lines going through the bar for the stopper system. The bar will come set up on the 1:1 setting, as the kite really doesn't need the 2:1, but it is there for those who like really drastic sheeting.

The new SIGMA kites depower more than any kite I have ever ridden, and they are so smooth, the whole way through the sheeting range because the canopy never collapes due to the SIGMA shape and the GEO-TECH pannel layout. I rode the 14m HELIX in Maui while the next biggest kite on the water was a 9m on a 110 kg rider (roughly 30-35 knots), most were on 7m kites, and the kite felt great! Totally in control and no jerking around, or reloading and stalling, SIGMA and GEO-TECH really work! and well! And on the flip side the bottom end power is unbelievable, the kites turn so fast, and using more of the canopy than ever in turns delivering more power, and faster pumping.

Yes there is definitely a Torch 2008. It is as radical if not more than last years Torch III. But I have to admit, the SIGMA kites are unbelievable, being a Torch rider since the beginning, this will be the first year there will not be one in my Quiver. SIGMA kites are in another league, and are another step in progression for Kiteboarding kites as we know it. Now I know this sounds like pimping etc...... blahblha, but it is true, and I urge you to try and organize a Demo from your local Naish Dealer as soon as they have a demo available, so you can experience this for your self. I know there is going to be the usual tools on this forum trying to bag out a product with out even seeing it, little lone trying it themselves. In my 8 or so years experience in kiteboarding, this is by far the biggest design progression as far as aerodynamics and draft control go. We are trying to get kites in the country as soon as possible. At this point in time it looks like we'll have stock of the Helix around the first or second week of August.

Sigma will change your kiting experience for ever. The kites just look so good, all tight and rigid (not loose canopy material between struts), it will make you think there is something wrong with any other kite you see. Geo-Tech is like the addition of Cambers to windsurfing sails, a massive advancement in draft stability and control.

Regards,

JB

why is there a quicksilver logo on one of the kites in the video ?

NIce advertising Guys, shouldn't this have gone in the gear reviews section...
teh new naish bar and stopper looks remarkable like the TD2 bar

Sorry Sorse, it's not meant to be an advertisement or a review, I am just so excited to finally be able to talk about the SIGMA kites now, we have been silenced for the past month and a half and now it's out in the open!

The New Naish SLE bar is simply another step in innovation from the 2007 SLE bar. Slimmer diameter, better grip, alloy bar hole, floaters and a two piece easy adjust stopper system slightly similar to which SS use on their TD2, incorporated with Naish's new Chicken loops.

Very exciting stuff!!!

It's been hard to not use the Sample I bought back from Maui, it's been burning a hole in my cupboard here in the office, just wanting to be used!

I will be sure to do a review in the review section ASAP!

Regards,

JB

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I rode the 14m HELIX in Maui while the next biggest kite on the water was a 9m on a 110 kg rider (roughly 30-35 knots), most were on 7m kites

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JB, do you think its time you headed to the gym? if a 110kg guy is on a 9m and you are on a 14m does that mean you weigh 160kg?

I remain suspicious of any FANTASTIC new thingey, expecially from naish. Lets see me proved wrong(again)

Anyone watch the video?
And did anyone else think they looked rather twitchy?
Will have to demo one one day, just so I have an opinion eh.

Jb could you tell me the flying differences between the Helix and the Alliance knowing that the Alliance is 5 line set up does it flY any differently to the helix.

With the alliance is it a better kite to self launch and land like any 5 line kite , as with bows I hate the way they self launch and with self landing you can put the kite in a death spiral as we have seen with bows.Will this apply to the Helix being difficult to self launch and land.

I can see the cut on the Alliance is different to the Helix is that because it has no bridles.

Alot of my mates are not sure which way to go , should we get the Helix or wait for the Alliance, most of our kiting this summer will be surf riding.

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simply love your new avatar 'slave.

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Thanks Greenboss.
By the way, I like your dog.

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Originally posted by JB
I rode the 14m HELIX in Maui while the next biggest kite on the water was a 9m on a 110 kg rider (roughly 30-35 knots), most were on 7m kites

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Errrr....and you think that's a good thing ???
I want to ride powered-up on the smallest kite I can for any given windspeed.
I'd rather be the guy riding the 7m in waves,
rather than be the fellow with the fat-arse kite.
Bottom-end is what's important to me in the surf....not the opposite.

GOTTA agree with slave here
in waves you dont want 14m kites, you want the smallest you can with bottom end ot get you thru.
so yeh how bout someone design a 6 or 7m that can have a range of 12-35 knots and ill buy one.