Naish 2010

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tino
tino
443 posts
443 posts
10 Jun 2009 7:00pm
Well its that time of year already when the companies start having their dealer meetings so I thought I might share some pics......











gruezi
gruezi
WA
3464 posts
WA, 3464 posts
10 Jun 2009 7:02pm
Burn it, burn it all! There is no wind until you do.
fly guy
fly guy
NSW
151 posts
NSW, 151 posts
10 Jun 2009 9:54pm
But when is for sale to the public?

the suspense is killing me!
tino
tino
443 posts
443 posts
10 Jun 2009 8:06pm
I'm guessing August / September for the Naish gear. Some brands are July / August.
SaveTheWhales
SaveTheWhales
WA
1913 posts
WA, 1913 posts
10 Jun 2009 8:23pm
How much for some of that Naish wind in the background

Its been that long since ive used my Torch, im confused why it wont lite up my cigarrettes

an im not stupid either - i know you cant use it to see in the dark ... cause there aint nowhere to be puttin in them batteries





sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
10 Jun 2009 9:02pm
OMG!! this is sooo sweet, the shapes, the colours, everything is just so original and fresh. When can we get our hands on these goodies? I will take 3 of everything!!
sckitesurf
sckitesurf
QLD
191 posts
QLD, 191 posts
10 Jun 2009 11:06pm
Have they been to NZ. Or has Shanon gone to see Robby?
baldrick
baldrick
QLD
146 posts
QLD, 146 posts
11 Jun 2009 12:32am
The Torch graphics of the Vampire tiki confirm Robby as an American Hawaii'n.
fly guy
fly guy
NSW
151 posts
NSW, 151 posts
11 Jun 2009 3:24am
I saw on the naish site (Icant find it any more otherwise I would have posted the link) they are bringing out a limited edition graphics of the skull and cross bones. Any chance they will be coming down under?
Abesy
Abesy
WA
266 posts
WA, 266 posts
11 Jun 2009 1:47am
the seagull is evolving, guess this proves the theory of evolution.....
caint say its evolving into something worth riding
im sure the other seagulls are jealous wat with all them gay nice colours....

Rhys McClintock
Rhys McClintock
NSW
995 posts
NSW, 995 posts
11 Jun 2009 9:29am
Check the straps out! Very cool lookin - love all the new systems comin out this year!

Also think it's cool the way they aren't printing sizes on the wingtips - further up looks really good!
bennie
bennie
ACT
1258 posts
ACT, 1258 posts
11 Jun 2009 11:23am
It looks like the sigma shape has been 'toned down' this year especially from the 08 helix, interesting!
loco4olas
loco4olas
NSW
1525 posts
NSW, 1525 posts
11 Jun 2009 12:23pm
bennie said...

It looks like the sigma shape has been 'toned down' this year especially from the 08 helix, interesting!


I think that's called incremental back peddling?

Can't believe they are sticking with that lemon of a design-get over it already.
loco4olas
loco4olas
NSW
1525 posts
NSW, 1525 posts
11 Jun 2009 12:24pm
Rhys Porter said...

Check the straps out! Very cool lookin - love all the new systems comin out this year!

Also think it's cool the way they aren't printing sizes on the wingtips - further up looks really good!


Rhys-if the best you can say about the 2010 gear is-cool looking straps and cool putting sizes up the wing tips-there's not much substance there to entice a buyer.......
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
11 Jun 2009 10:41am
lol
Idiot
Idiot
WA
577 posts
WA, 577 posts
11 Jun 2009 11:03am
bennie said...

It looks like the sigma shape has been 'toned down' this year especially from the 08 helix, interesting!


From the look of this 2010 Helix it seems like it is a pure delta kite + sigma shape.
I think Helix is slowly becoming the second choice after Torch.

I wonder if they changed their line system (to something similar to Core kites bar perhaps ) cause 2009 bars were not that impressive.


lostinlondon
lostinlondon
VIC
1159 posts
VIC, 1159 posts
11 Jun 2009 2:28pm
I really like the old above the bar system they had on the 2007 gear. It was easy to use and clean below the bar.

I think the more rounded shape in the leading edge will be to reduce stress at the joins and improve the flight characteristics.

I don't know what people have against the Helix shape. I have never heard complaints from anyone that rides it, and people are always interested to find out about it even when I pull out my natty 08 Helix.
loco4olas
loco4olas
NSW
1525 posts
NSW, 1525 posts
11 Jun 2009 2:52pm
lostinlondon said...

I really like the old above the bar system they had on the 2007 gear. It was easy to use and clean below the bar.

I think the more rounded shape in the leading edge will be to reduce stress at the joins and improve the flight characteristics.

I don't know what people have against the Helix shape. I have never heard complaints from anyone that rides it, and people are always interested to find out about it even when I pull out my natty 08 Helix.


I agree on the 2007 bars.

On the Helix shape-I believe it is just a marketing gimmick (one that didn't work judging by their reduced market share)-a change for the sake of change, rather than a change for improvement's sake.
lostinlondon
lostinlondon
VIC
1159 posts
VIC, 1159 posts
11 Jun 2009 3:00pm
Naish doesn't need to rely on marketing gimmicks! The brand itself is a marketing tool that has a legend of Windsurfing and Kitesurfing behind it.

I think the Helix shape does make a difference, the main thing being the canopy doesn't flap when depowered. And my 9m Helix really shoots to the front of the wind window, just by giving a bit more back foot pressure. You need to pump it up nice and hard though.

I think the fact that the Alliance no longer exists shows how brilliant the Torch is and probably was more of a development step.

I'll be considering replacing my 12m Boxer SLE with a 12m Helix this summer.
Matt Snowdon
Matt Snowdon
NSW
105 posts
NSW, 105 posts
11 Jun 2009 3:07pm
loco4olas said...

bennie said...

It looks like the sigma shape has been 'toned down' this year especially from the 08 helix, interesting!


I think that's called incremental back peddling?

Can't believe they are sticking with that lemon of a design-get over it already.


2010 see's no GeoTech on the Helix?
What will 2011 bring???
No more sigma shape and Robby admits the whole thing was a flop
Idiot
Idiot
WA
577 posts
WA, 577 posts
11 Jun 2009 2:50pm
Matt Snowdon said...

...No more sigma shape ...


Well I don't agree with you, I had 06 slingshot fuel, 07 best nemesis, 08 helix, 09 cult and 09 core GT.
Sigma shape have two centers of power and it makes it more predictable.
All the other kites have one center of power on the center of the wing but sigma creates two power centers and it reduce the chance of change of direction during a cross wind gust or rotating under the kite during the jump as most of the times your kite and your bar are parallel.

While we are talking about bar, what I love about core bar is:
1) you don't need any setup for unhook
2) If your chicken loop get out of the harness hook by accident or you use the safety release, you can hook back in EASY in the water.
What I don't like is:
1) that small power hook which most of the times get hooked when you don't want it.

I hope Naish look at core's bar and change their bars a little bit.



tobes
tobes
NSW
1000 posts
NSW, 1000 posts
11 Jun 2009 5:54pm
Just cut off the micro loop, Idiot.

Some nice looking gear from Naish, I like the Torch graphic with the guy in the suit and what looks to me like a scary balinese mask.
The full wood boards look amazing, drool, drool.
Those Thorn TT's look like they are perfectly disguised to hide from you when you're body dragging looking for your board. I like bright, high vis boards.
Idiot
Idiot
WA
577 posts
WA, 577 posts
11 Jun 2009 5:22pm
If I cut it then I'm not able to use it when I need it "Einstein"
lostinlondon
lostinlondon
VIC
1159 posts
VIC, 1159 posts
11 Jun 2009 7:30pm
That micro loop looks like trouble to me. The only time I would be using it is if I felt like getting a powered up caning from my kite, whilst frantically trying to unhook it, which is er, never.

What is the point? Enlighten me.
paul.j
paul.j
QLD
3379 posts
QLD, 3379 posts
11 Jun 2009 8:01pm
F**k me guys the sigma shape rocks and i would be more than happy to to put it up against any kite and show how superior it is. These kites have taken my riding to places i didn't know it could go and the new ones look sick.

cant be bothered.... At least sir rowdy is consistent in his hate for all kites that are not C shape.

Kites look sick can't wait to get mine and test them out.

Jacko



Idiot
Idiot
WA
577 posts
WA, 577 posts
11 Jun 2009 6:03pm
When your hands are tired from the bar pressure and you still want to ride full power you can use it.
Exactly like the stopper that you have on your Naish bar.
The difference is you can accurately setup your power on Naish bar or Slingshot bar but its not easy to work with this thing
lostinlondon
lostinlondon
VIC
1159 posts
VIC, 1159 posts
11 Jun 2009 8:20pm
I got rid of the bullet thing and stopper on my centre line (I have an 07 bar) as it catches on the bar and I have a habit of resting my right thumb on the centre line, so I kept cutting my hand. I also have long arms and can use most of the bar travel.

My hands would be the last thing to get tired. Its mainly my legs that get tired.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to trying out the new 12m Helix kite as a replacement for my Boxer SLE 12m. Only issue is the price premium over other brands.
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
11 Jun 2009 10:10pm
paul.j said...

At least sir rowdy is consistent in his hate for all kites that are not C shape.


Hey man you got me all wrong, Im actually pretty consistent in my hate across the board.
loco4olas
loco4olas
NSW
1525 posts
NSW, 1525 posts
12 Jun 2009 1:09pm
sir ROWDY said...

paul.j said...

At least sir rowdy is consistent in his hate for all kites that are not C shape.


Hey man you got me all wrong, Im actually pretty consistent in my hate across the board.



Yeaaaaah!
koma
koma
VIC
760 posts
VIC, 760 posts
12 Jun 2009 1:46pm
lostinlondon said...

Naish doesn't need to rely on marketing gimmicks! The brand itself is a marketing tool that has a legend of Windsurfing and Kitesurfing behind it.

I think the Helix shape does make a difference, the main thing being the canopy doesn't flap when depowered. And my 9m Helix really shoots to the front of the wind window, just by giving a bit more back foot pressure. You need to pump it up nice and hard though.

I think the fact that the Alliance no longer exists shows how brilliant the Torch is and probably was more of a development step.

I'll be considering replacing my 12m Boxer SLE with a 12m Helix this summer.


I'm still happily riding my 12 Alliance and actually just picked up an 8 Alliance to go with it. Yes, they're a little less hardcore than the Torch but that's not a bad thing for everyone. The Alliances are actually quite a bargain at the moment for anyone wanting to step up to something C-like. I guess when i wear them out then i'll move over to the Torches.

As for the 2010 Naish gear, it's good to see they've brought an 11m Torch in to slot in between the 10m & 12m. The 10m Torch had the turning speed and the 12m had the grunt, so with any luck the 11m is the perfect compromise.

The rounded Sigma shape of the '10 Helix is something i'm still yet to hear properly justified. I personally really like the way the sigma's fly, but each to their own.
The colour schemes i'm not a massive fan of - but each year has some really disgusting schemes and some really nice ones. Purple & black has always been one of my Naish favourites from the last few years, but the grey & electric orange is also nice.
chalmers
chalmers
QLD
32 posts
QLD, 32 posts
12 Jun 2009 3:23pm
I think they are going to be great kites, This years were nice, particularly the Helix. By the looks of it they have removed the Geotech for 2010. May feel a little more C-Kite-ish now. Kites look good, not a delta...still the sigma shape. Am dead keen to give them a run this year.
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