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macgregor
macgregor
4 posts
4 posts
17 Jan 2007 8:16pm
I have had several lessons so know what I need to do but I am having a lot of trouble controlling the kite. As part of previous lessons I purchased an 2004 Slingshot Fuel (9m and 13m)but they seem to have a mind of their own and are very twitchy. Getting the kite to do what I want rather than what it wants to do is my main problem. They seem to be either in full power or no power which is hard for a newbie. Can someone advise what would be the best model and make of second hand kite which will be VERY stable and idiot proof and allow me to make progress. All I need at this point in my learning curve is a slow and stable design. I am 80 Kg and want to continue the learning curve in 15 to 20 knot winds. Will appreciate any good advice.
viffer
viffer
QLD
32 posts
QLD, 32 posts
17 Jan 2007 9:43pm
If you don't mind being called a bow fairy, get a 12m bow, or 13 waroo pro, heaps of de-power, easy to relaunch
WindriderAU
WindriderAU
VIC
39 posts
VIC, 39 posts
17 Jan 2007 10:44pm
I used to have a 12m Cabrinha Switchblade. I found this kite very rewarding, confidence building and easy to depower during gusts, etc.
justdoit
justdoit
QLD
65 posts
QLD, 65 posts
17 Jan 2007 9:45pm
Stick with the kites you have and practice more. Maybe a lesson with a different instructor. This might not be what you wanted to hear but you did say you wanted good advice.
colinwill78
colinwill78
VIC
1395 posts
VIC, 1395 posts
17 Jan 2007 11:29pm
i haven't had many kites but i know exactly what you are experiencing.
Sure a bow kite apparently gives you what you want but if you're asking for 2nd hand i am assuming you want cheaper. 2nd hand bows are still around $1000.
I have an x4 (14m) which has reasonable depower compared to my former x3, but i also have a Yarga, the depower and power i get just by sheeting in out i find excellent. it is a 9m, i can't really comment on the other sizes.
Lastly I got a 05 17m spectrum II and it is the worst of the three, it's all go!!!.. edging very hard, but i don't use this kite unless i have to.
maybe it's just the size of tyhe kites that does it.... any one???
Surfnet
Surfnet
QLD
13 posts
QLD, 13 posts
17 Jan 2007 11:44pm
I used to have a 2004 Slingshot Fuel 11m and I'm also a newbie but with experience with my kite. On Xmas day I went on the Shearwater with winds ranging 18-20 knots. I'm 62kg and even though my fuel 11 was fully depowered it was still lifting me up too much for my taste or dragging me down wind too fast... An experienced kiter told me she had the same problem with her fuel (too powerful ) and changed it for a bow kite. I was so feed up and concerned for my safety that I went straight to the shop and decided to trade it for a bow kite as well. The difference is juste amazing, fantastic control with total depower, I love it! A bit expensive though but I believe safety come first plus it is definitely more fun now
Tonewolf
Tonewolf
382 posts
382 posts
18 Jan 2007 3:25pm
For the very best in stable kites, you can not afford to go past the peter lynn venom one or venom2 ....super stable.. easily relaunched... automatically goes to 12 o'clock when you stack it... just let go of the bar and it stays at 12 o'clock all day.
I had the same probs as you when I first started...the main problem is, everyone has a different oppinion. Get a test ride on a peter lynn venom. Ya won't regret it.
Juddy
Juddy
WA
1103 posts
WA, 1103 posts
18 Jan 2007 3:38pm
Macgregor,

Tonewolf's comments about PL Venoms is spot on. I fly a V13 & it's about the most stable thing going. It's a great kite to learn on (but it's more than just a learner's kite!!) & will hold you in good stead in winds up to about 25knots with your weight.

Seriously recommend the investment

Juddy
GreenPat
GreenPat
QLD
4107 posts
QLD, 4107 posts
18 Jan 2007 5:55pm
I'm afraid that if you think the 04 13m fuel is unstable you may have to seriously consider turning bow-sexual. I've been riding an 04 13m since, well, 04, and it's still one of the most stable c-kites there is. I have two other 06 c kites neither of which are remotely as stable as the fuel. So yeah, bow may be the way to go. Or foil, as they say, I've never tried one on water. Tone/Juddy how long can they sit on the water after a crash before you can't relaunch them these days? I've heard it's not as much a problem with the newer designs as it used to be.
poor relative
poor relative
WA
9106 posts
WA, 9106 posts
18 Jan 2007 5:18pm
Stick with what you have, just ask someone to help tune them that is all they probably need.

Are all the lines equal when trim strap is out and bar next to chicken loop?
Tonewolf
Tonewolf
382 posts
382 posts
18 Jan 2007 5:28pm
you've normally got a good few minutes before you do the walk/swim of shame.
and it's rare that the kite sits in the water that long.
Where you from? mcgregor?
GreenPat
GreenPat
QLD
4107 posts
QLD, 4107 posts
18 Jan 2007 6:37pm
sorry yeah, if you insist on changing kites there isn't a more stable c-kite I've ever flown, to answer that part of the question. But you would be better off sticking with what you've got and practicing more than spending a whole heap more money for what sounds like it would be limited benefit.
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