i cant believe this on the way to work at choice.. hehe see i tied it into kite surfing. i frikin get done for going through an orange light that went red $150 and 3 pionts, THEN on the way home

.. bloody karel ave didnt see the school zone sign did I!! admitidly i was speeding any way 79km is a 40 zone thats 39km over $700 and 5 pionts.

so in one day i have lost my license and am out of pocket $850 so yeh im an idiot and like going to fast on bikes to own one.

So im selling my Suzuki Across 1997 250cc for $3500 when i bought it at a bargain at $3800 a month ago. sigh thank god we cant get done for speed on the water.

You like that .. another tie into kitesurfing

Double demerits today...... Looks like you're royally screwed.... Better put up the price of that bike ! Cover bus costs for the next............

oh sorry greenpat it wasnt really meant as a advertisiment.. infact i dont know if ill really sell it i was just really upset when i got home. but i went and punched a bag for a bit and i feel better. its honeslty though REALLY hard to stay at the speed limit 60 feels like your crawling on a bike. admitidly it does cross my mind that i have the potential to kill myself.. i ride a bike like i ride a kite.. not to smart at times

shouldn't have stopped

motor bike license = temporary australian permit
i have ridden a 125cc semi auto step through from malaysia to burma and back to bangkok and from jakata to bali and back to jogya', and i feel heaps safer on those goat track pot-holed over crowded no rules roads, than i do back home, temptation to speed coupled with the me, me, me, eff you attitude of most road users (save most professional drivers- gotta hand it to the truckies, ever tried to drive a crash box in traffic.?) is a receipe for disaster

Dawn Patrol said...

teabagg said...

motor bike license = temporary australian permit

Maybe, depends on how you ride. If you ride like Rossi (or try to ride like Rossi), you are likely to end up 6ft under.
If you ride safe, and alert, you chances of an accident will be reduced. Can't wait to get a bike (its going to be many years, too dumb and inexperienced road wise at the moment, and parents won't let me). But I plan on learning on a slow heap of junk, and spend dollars on riding gear.
I think it should be
Motor bike license = Wicked awesome I'm having a life permit. But there is a place and a time for the speed etc.

Get a 100cc scooter to start. It removes the temptation to speed, simply because you have to try hard to do so. Spend a couple of years of that and you can move to a larger bike knowing the benefits of having a big bike (like getting blown off the road by gusts of wind) without the wanting to kill yourself doing 300km/h

I don't ride bikes anymore but;

Riding hard on a public road is like kiting at Bondi. Not safe for the general public, or you.

Go to the track, go hard, and no loss of license no matter how fast or hard you go.

Sucks to hear you lost you licence h20..... Sucks even harder the two fines u copped in one day! i was on my first bike cbr250rr at 16 im now 19 with a gsxr 1000. I have been pulled over a few times but have been lucky to be let off. Of course i speed. Everyone i ride with speeds. Theres some twisty roads that are 60km/h and we see well over 140. But we choose a time and a place and dont ride out of our limits thats what track days are for. People dont understand how fast these new bikes are. Sure they shouldnt be allowed to own especially if ur 18-19 like me but hey, i bet im alot safer rider due to my experience then some knob thats 40 years old in a mid life crisis!
anyway, keep on riding (when ur allowed) just pick a time and a place dude.....surely u cant wait to upgrade!!!
now for some pics of my baby!

holly crap man thats alot of points!!! i know where your coming from not liking to be around cars. IMO it is safer to keep consistantly flowing through traffic say if its a 110 zone sit on 125-130 and cruise past cagers. Keeps you on the ball and prevents a d*ck head cager killing you. It only takes a few cut offs for you to become a better rider! well dude i hope one day u get back into it all!

thanks dawn patrol, wise move with getting more driving experience. You've got ur head screwd on right for road riding. What u say is correct being on a bike is safer its just if u do have an acco, ur more likely to get hurt. Ask anyone a decent road rider is one of the best car drivers.

I didnt mean to come across saying that im heaps more experienced then an older bloke. They have been on the road before i was born, but..... i have seen some shocking things with people who know the road and rules but that all goes out the window when they are on two wheels not four lol.

Dont ever get a scooter those things are the worst thing ever invented! People tend to think because there on a scooter and not a bike that its safe to wear no protective gear apart from a helmet. I wear full leathers, gloves, back protector basically everytime i ride. anyways, hope u end up riding soon and enjoy every minute of it!

nice looking bike menox, i was one of those 40 year old mid-life crisis case's, after not having a bike for over 20 years got a cbr 600 then after 6 months got a cbr 900 fireblade, trouble was right hand didnt listen to brain, coming home from british superbike event along a single track road me and 3 mates hit 165mph, got home looked at my 2 girls and thought that they still needed a dad, sold bike took up kiteing. So far have broken nose, dislocated finger, done ligaments in both ankles and one knee, and have a crick neck from kiteloop that went wrong in 2ft of water, But im alive and dont think i would be if still had bike. still long for another one though, may get one when move to Oz next year. does look a hot machine.

GreenPat said...

koma said...

It won't just be a speeding fine you'll be fighting...

...you might be fighting for your life in hospital. Or are you indestructible? Or a 'good rider'? Just like every other motorcyclist who has ended up in hospital or dead.

I'm not going to delete this for advertising at the moment, I've got a point to get across, but that's not saying it won't get deleted. I have had to hold my tongue on a lot of things since taking on the admin role, but not this time. Too many reckless fools are getting hurt on bikes and giving the rest of us a bad reputation. I would like to suggest that this isn't ideal, and would encourage people not to ride dangerously.

This is actually quite interesting, I've been trying to get a motorbike for years... and I mean years, I have saved up and worked my ass off for it but my parents just won't budge, ironically I ended up blowing my 'bike budget' on my first set of kitesurfing gear.

Honestly, from someone who knows what it's like on a bike, is it that much of a deathtrap as everyone seems to make it out to be?

I've always believed that a lot of fatalities are due to the fact that bikes are so powerful compared to their weight, so there is a lot of self control required if you want to be safe, it shows in bike fatalities statistics (which I actually went through to prove to my parents). Then there is also conspicuity and lack of protection, but obviously neither should be an issue to the extremely safe rider.

I'm 19 by the way, so that puts me into a really 'risk prone' demographic, but I wouldn't say I fit the stereotypical P plater attitude towards the road. I don't wana gun it unless I'm on a track, I just love the open air, low fuel consumption, and yeh, leaning into corners etc, just looks awesome.

Geeeeeze Everyone.................Lighten Up

My old Grand Prix bike & 160Mph F1 bike never hurt a fly sitting in the garage !!!!

Unless you are all blind - people are gettin run over, cars,bikes,planes & todlers are crashing there trikes EveryDay.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!COTTON WOOL "WILL NOT" SAVE YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Everyone has a Number for there time & its there very own.

OOh thats right - Heart disease from over eating Killed more people last year than roadkills for the last Century.

.... Something about casting the fist stone... cant remember !!!

Have a great weekend

I just hit the magical 'insurance-no-longer-wants-to-screw-me' age so a world of options have just opened up to me, and you know what?! I'm having a hiatus from motorbikes.

Heres the way i break it down...
1. Motorcycles by themselves are dangerous.
Two wheels means that minor road issues that you would drive over and maybe skid in a car are likely to bring you unstuck; and it only takes 1/10 of a second with a locked front or 1 second with a locked rear wheel to see you sliding down the bitumen at whatever speed you were doing at the time.

2. Motorcycles mixed with under-25 inexperienced and possibly hormone fueled humans are more dangerous.
There's a reason statistics exist. They take an average of all the people who have/are in similar situations as you are in now and form a few conclusions from them. Statistically in the time i've been driving/riding and the vehicles i've owned, i should have written off 1 car and written off 4 motorcycles. This hasn't happened because when it comes down to it, i'm statistically abnormal! I've managed to buck the trend and i'm thankful that due to my rider/driver training and a little bit of foresight, mixed with a generous slathering of luck, i've come out ahead of the statistical median.
The lesson in this is you've got to defy 'normal' when it comes to defying statistics.

3. It's not yourself, it's everybody else!!!
As was suggested previously, long term motorcyclists are undeniably THE safest drivers/riders on the road. The skills required to keep yourself safe on a motorcycle on public roads are FAR higher than they are in a car or larger vehicle. If your ok with the idea that every single time you start that bike and go for a ride longer than 15 minutes that someone, somewhere is going to make an attempt against your life; then that's ok. One thing i constantly hear from new riders is horror stories each time i would see them about 'almost got knocked off', 'was merged into and run off the road', 'didn't see me and almost collected me'. This is 100% normal and its part of everyday life for a motorcyclist. I don't hate the people who do almost knock me off, or even the ones that i have to swerve to avoid being collected; what i do hate is when they abuse you for 'coming out of no where'! If someone has done something stupid i'll generally try and let them know what they've done in a very calm and polite way. I'd say 80% of the people who i talk to after they've almost run me off the road will retaliate with verbal abuse, and a very small percentage will retaliate with physical violence... which is really f'n stupid when i'm in full leathers, helmet and carbonfibre knuckled gloves. I understand i look intimidating (like a power ranger!), but you did still just almost kill me.

4. Motorcycles are NOT cheaper than cars
There are exceptions to this rule in the form of Honda CT110 (postie bikes), but other than that... motorcycles cost more to run than cars. A set of tyres on the average small car is ~$400-450 and will last 50,000 km's. A set of tyres on a 250cc is ~$400 and will last 12,000km's. A set of tyres on a 1000cc sports bike is ~$500 and will last ~8000km's.
Servicing intervals for motorcycles are more frequent and often more expensive than on cars. I minor-service my bikes every 5000km's with semi-synth oil ($60) and new filters ($50).
By the time you factor in that most motorcycles are far more highly strung than the average car on the road, you'll see that it's like servicing a high-end sports car - it's GONNA be expensive.

When it all comes down to it. I'll definitely own another bike in the next 2 years, BUT it may only be a track bike instead of a road registered one. When it comes down to it, i'd rather have my life in my hands rather than in someone elses.
The only accident i've had in my time on a motorcycle gave me a fair bit of time whilst strapped to the bed in a rigid neck brace whilst waiting for CT-scans and xrays - to think. I only get one body, one life and one chance; so i've decided to make the absolute most of my time on this planet in the best possible condition of life i can manage. Road motorcycling is most definitely an exciting and incredible experience, but it's not for everyone, and it's definitely not forever.

If you do decide to buy a motorcycle (which i did after i moved out of home), then please spend as much money as possible on safety gear and rider training. This means that when you look at helmets and find out that the top of the range is $1000+, don't scrimp and buy a cheap one unless it's the perfect fit. Your probably far better off reading a motorcycling forum like NetRider or OCAUMC for more advice and details.
Also, don't for a moment think that when you pass your tests you've finished learning; Valentino Rossi is still learning just as much as you will be.

Jimmyz said...

Thanks Koma.

Yeh, I definantly seem to agree with what you said about the statistics.

I do reckon they are cheaper though man, I know tire changes are more regular, but if you throw petrol costs into that mix on a 250cc twin, so not a mad performance bike, it's going to be a third the petrol price to run.

I just want one for weekend rides, or late at night, that is.... when there are FEWER cars around .

My mum is unable to watch me kitesurf without cringing apparently (no idea why), so you can imagine how she feels when I tell her I want a motorbike...

Hehe, yeah i think i know what you mean about your poor mum cringing.
As for the costs of running a motorbike, i'm quite serious... i did the all inclusive costs and it works out about the same to purchase, insure, maintain and run a 250cc motorbike as it does to do the same for a small ****box commuter car. The only bikes that are actually cheaper are the seriously old bangers (which i wouldn't trust my life on!) or the Honda CT110 postie bikes.

Good luck with convincing your parents though.

Hi Guys,

I'm a big fan of bikes but wont ride (and cant afford) a decent super bike on the road. I have had three mates in very serious accidents, one lost his head (literally).

Mate 1: Cruising home in traffic after work, saw cars ahead in his lane and decided to change into the left lane. He was traveling 80kmh and copped a good glint of setting sun in his eyes which blinded him badly enough not to see the bus picking up passengers ahead. He hit it at 80 clicks without braking! Broke almost every bone in his body and was in traction in hospital for months. His FJ1200 was a writeoff!

Mate 2: Lost control in night time and dropped his bike laying it over at speed. He hit armco guard rail with his head on one side and his shoulders on the other neatly removing his head from his body. This accident was nasty, so was his funeral at just 19.

Mate 3: A work colleague and very devoted biker. Rode fairly safe, had all the safety gear but had a woman who didn't see him pull out through a stop sign whilst he was speeding on a descending left hand turn onto Qantas drive on the way to work. He hit her big time doing around 90kmh and was shot over the top of his bike and her car but impacted the guard railing and ended up in hospital for an extended stay. He became robocop with all the "improvements" to his bones and joints. Had major pain in joints and bones for eons.

Bottom line is, bikes are awesome and temptation to ride fast is huge but dont do it on the road. Buy all the best safety gear, ride defensively and join a club where you can sport race on weekends on a track. Then go as fast as your nads will afford you.

My wife wont let me buy a bike now with 2 kids. I have to wait til i'm older and the girls have grown up.

Good winds,