Overpowered?

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H2flow
H2flow
WA
35 posts
WA, 35 posts
23 Aug 2006 8:46pm
I recently read in a kite mag about how to know if you are overpowered.
They explained that if you can walk backwards with your kite in the air without being dragged or pulled forwards then you are OK!!!??
What was not explained was the position of the kite in the sky ie: 12 oclock or 3 oclock or low just above the water etc, and what setting the power should be, no power or half power or just a bit of power?
Can anyone shed some light for a slightly confused old Timer please.
Ta!
carbine
carbine
WA
1450 posts
WA, 1450 posts
23 Aug 2006 8:52pm
wait till a gust comes through then you go from overpowered to ****ed.
eightfootplus
eightfootplus
NSW
298 posts
NSW, 298 posts
23 Aug 2006 11:07pm
I know Im overpowered when I can no longer hold an edge and get pulled down wind at ever increasing speed.

or I launch, send the kite to the edge 3pm and get pulled straight into the water without my board.

either indicator works for me.

stamp
stamp
QLD
2800 posts
QLD, 2800 posts
23 Aug 2006 11:22pm
sounds like a good new thread; you know you're overpowered when...
kitecrazzzy
kitecrazzzy
WA
2184 posts
WA, 2184 posts
23 Aug 2006 10:48pm
i know im overpowered when im doing the planing on your back hoping to find the qr
Spacemonkey!
Spacemonkey!
SA
2288 posts
SA, 2288 posts
24 Aug 2006 12:39am
My best rule of thumb is your overpowered when it's impossible to walk upwind. This works well because if you fall off your board when you cant walk upwind its almost impossible to get back to it. Sure you can keep riding when you can't walk upwind at all, but dangerous and stupid.
Keahi
Keahi
QLD
853 posts
QLD, 853 posts
24 Aug 2006 8:16am
you know your overpowered when

you go to turn around with your kite at 12 and suddenly get lofted 15ft
not on board
not on board
210 posts
210 posts
24 Aug 2006 6:38am
You know you are overpowered when the lady in your life makes you go to a garage sale when there is a good wind blowing. (or maybe you're just spineless)
Kitehard
Kitehard
WA
2782 posts
WA, 2782 posts
24 Aug 2006 8:05am
G'Day H2Flow,

The old addage was that when your kite was at 12 o'clock & depowered and you were unable to walk backwards into the wind then you had too much kite. This mainly applied to "c" shaped kites and actually originated back in the days of 2 line kites which had no depower.

This has now changed because of the invention of the flat kite, SLE (Supported Leading Edge or Bridled kite) and also the 5th line setup of kites like the RRD and many others which use the 5th to pull the leading edge down reducing angle of attack.

Now it is possible to walk against the wind in extremely overpowered conditions with relative ease, this however doesn't make it much safer in fact I would suggest it makes situations much more dangerous for beginners should something go wrong.

If you are concerned with how much power to ride with and you are a beginner using a kite with a large depower range ie bow style, try pulling in on the trim to fully depower the kite and then pull the bar to maximum power ie sheet in. If you cannot walk against the wind, then I would say you have too much kite up as a beginner.

As you gain more experience you can certainly hold onto more power and utilise the full range of the kites ability, but without a lot of experience that may come at a heavy price.

You can also check the manufacturers recommended wind range of the particular kite and add say 2 knots wind range for every 10kg above 70 kg of body weight.

Hope this helps. Good winds,

waveslave
waveslave
WA
4263 posts
WA, 4263 posts
24 Aug 2006 8:13am
You know you're overpowered when.....
you can't bodydrag back to your board when normally it's a no-brainer.
stamp
stamp
QLD
2800 posts
QLD, 2800 posts
24 Aug 2006 11:50am
....when you ride dead downwind towards the kite and dont lose any board speed
Eye of the storm
Eye of the storm
QLD
131 posts
QLD, 131 posts
24 Aug 2006 11:54am
your overpowered when people have to hold you down when you launch and you get dragged past your board on the way to the water.
dachopper
dachopper
WA
1802 posts
WA, 1802 posts
24 Aug 2006 10:26am
quote:
Originally posted by H2flow

I recently read in a kite mag about how to know if you are overpowered.
They explained that if you can walk backwards with your kite in the air without being dragged or pulled forwards then you are OK!!!??
What was not explained was the position of the kite in the sky ie: 12 oclock or 3 oclock or low just above the water etc, and what setting the power should be, no power or half power or just a bit of power?
Can anyone shed some light for a slightly confused old Timer please.
Ta!



they are probably talking about the kite straight on top of your head , with the bar out. and if needed the depower line pulled so you can still walk upwind..
H2flow
H2flow
WA
35 posts
WA, 35 posts
24 Aug 2006 4:14pm
Ta Guys! Nice to get tips from a wealth of knoweledge and Kitehard, You answered my Q perfectly. Thanx mate! Can always rely on your great experience.
user
user
WA
1140 posts
WA, 1140 posts
25 Aug 2006 5:27am
What ever you do ,DONT test for being overpowered with the kite at 12 o'clock! You could get lofted!

Keep the kite LOW in high wind.If you are being dragged then,put it down.
waveslave
waveslave
WA
4263 posts
WA, 4263 posts
25 Aug 2006 8:37am
quote:
Originally posted by user

What ever you do ,DONT test for being overpowered with the kite at 12 o'clock! You could get lofted!

Keep the kite LOW in high wind.If you are being dragged then,put it down.



Being majorly overpowered is still majorly overpowering,
regardless of where you park the kite.
Fly the kite at 12 and get yourself lofted.
or
Fly the kite low for maximum whip and power yourself into a killer spike.
lol
Kite go fat....
You go SPLAT.
windslave
windslave
QLD
151 posts
QLD, 151 posts
25 Aug 2006 4:36pm
You know your over powered when the only way to slow down is to BOOST!
oceangirl
oceangirl
WA
35 posts
WA, 35 posts
25 Aug 2006 6:22pm
you know when you're majorly overpowered,
when you've got a monkey on your back.
waveslave
waveslave
WA
4263 posts
WA, 4263 posts
25 Aug 2006 6:34pm
quote:
Originally posted by oceangirl

you know when you're majorly overpowered,
when you've got a monkey on your back.



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