Places to teach in Perth?

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MalM
MalM
WA
3 posts
WA, 3 posts
15 Sep 2007 11:18am
Hi,

I'm relatively new to Perth and am not too familiar with most of the kiting spots.

With summer coming on I'll probably be wanting to teach a few of my mates, but I haven't yet seen any place that I would consider suitable for doing this. The shallows of Pelican Point would be good except for downwind obstacles, Woodies seems to have too many people about, and most of the rest of the beaches seem too narrow or close to roads. I don't mind teaching in deep water at the beach, but want to have a wide beach for walking back upwind.

Does any one have a recommendation? Somewhere in the Perth metro area would be ideal, but if I've gotta travel then so be it.

Thanks,
Mal
kitebite
kitebite
WA
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Kitehard
Kitehard
WA
2782 posts
WA, 2782 posts
15 Sep 2007 2:48pm
Hi Mal,

Your best bet is Melville as you can stand for a long way out and the water is smoothish.

Swanbourne isn't a great idea due to the savage beach break, the gear will get trashed within minutes.

Leighton is a better beach than Coogee, lots of sand fewer people.

There is barely any beach at Pinnaroo Point at the moment and what little there is is rotting weed. Water is extremely choppy and the spot is crowded. Our school operates there and we get very busy, we use half length lines to keep beach space from getting all used up. There is no room for people teaching mates on long lines.

Safety Bay is good as can be Woodies in the onshore southern side.

Good luck,

kitebite
kitebite
WA
3 posts
WA, 3 posts
15 Sep 2007 3:24pm
You will be lucky if you see someone else at Coogee, Leighton can have alot of people.

As for Swanbourne, just watch the swell if thats a problem.

Pinnaroo must be a good spot as kitehard teaches there.
waveslave
waveslave
WA
4263 posts
WA, 4263 posts
18 Sep 2007 12:08pm
quote:
Originally posted by Kitehard


There is barely any beach at Pinnaroo Point at the moment and what little there is is rotting weed. Water is extremely choppy and the spot is crowded. Our school operates there and we get very busy, we use half length lines to keep beach space from getting all used up. There is no room for people teaching mates on long lines.




lol.
Rotting weed, chop, and crowds.
Nice.

Even though Kitehard tries his very best to politely steer Mal and his noob mates away from Pinaroo,
Kitebite still recommends the spot.
It cracks me up that Kitebite doesn't get it.
Dude, the guru is trying to run a kite-dragging business.
He doesn't need some random free-teaching his newbie mates right next to his school on his private beach.
That would be rude.
It would be bad form and poor beach etiquette.

But moving right along.....
Kitehard, the use of half length lines intrigues me.
OK, you explained your reasons for doing so because of the no beach thing....
but are you compromising the newbies with teaching on half length lines ?
Because when they eventually get their own gear with full length lines,
the sudden power-spike might give them a bit of a nudge.
lol.
brooksy
brooksy
WA
498 posts
WA, 498 posts
18 Sep 2007 12:34pm
Leighton is a bad spot to teach, it can get a nasty shore break, has lots of walkers, dogs (well known for attacking crashed kites) and kids.

Find a beach that's quiet, so when your mate crashes he doesn't take out people.

Last season I ended up in an argument with 2 noobs at leighton who managed to hit a guy smack bang on the head just as I got down the beach. He was extremely p!ssed. And it never should have happend when the wind was less than 10 knots and a 9m won't even stay in the air! I've seen quite a few learners come down big time at Leighton and been lucky not to hit any walkers or swimmers. Just make sure you find a quiet beach, where you are unlikely to hit someone and potentially cause damage. Make sure you have LOTS of room downwind.

There's heaps of quiet spots, use any of them. Safety Bay, towards the north end is a good spot away from Pengo's which gets very busy, but there's heaps of others.

Kitehard
Kitehard
WA
2782 posts
WA, 2782 posts
18 Sep 2007 12:44pm
Hey there 'Slave,

To answer your question, of course we also teach with long lines (25m + Bridles) once the student has full control of the kite. We start the first 1.5 hrs on shorter lines whilst doing all of the beach dedicated works, Launch/land, basic piloting etc. This frees up beach space, reduces wind window size, reduces potential for full power accidents and less tangles, but mostly for using less beach space.

We then change bars and go full length to do the water work, or we stay on the shorter lines if it is really windy.

Our second lesson is always on longer lines as the students are mostly in the water away from harms way.

Hope this makes it all clearer and thanks for your query

Good winds,

jquigley
jquigley
WA
205 posts
WA, 205 posts
18 Sep 2007 2:36pm
Hi Kitehard

I was down at Pinnaroo last Friday after work, you're right about no beach and what there is of it is covered in seaweed and junk. Only one other guy out and he snagged and cut a line on some wire while launching.

Does anybody know what conditions we need to get for the beach to return? and how long does it take?

J-P
meerkat
meerkat
WA
644 posts
WA, 644 posts
18 Sep 2007 3:01pm
melville is by far the best kiting spot in perth for newbies or people learning new tricks.
Kitehard
Kitehard
WA
2782 posts
WA, 2782 posts
18 Sep 2007 4:48pm
Hey Jquigley,

We need Sou Westers to blow all the sand from Whitfords back onto Pinnaroo. Last year the sand ended up covering a 1m deep bank of rotting weed to make the new beach.

Driving past today I noticed tonnes (literally) of weed in the water off North Beach and Sorrento which will probably end up at Pinnas after the big swells are gone.

Problem with the weed is that when the kelp dries, it hardens and creates oyster like shredders for feet and kite canopys. Beware people! I had dozens of small cuts on my feet from weed last year and we were putting small patches on kites every other day.

Come on Summer!

puppetonastring
puppetonastring
WA
3619 posts
WA, 3619 posts
18 Sep 2007 5:23pm
quote:
Originally posted by meerkat

melville is by far the best kiting spot in perth for newbies or people learning new tricks.


You are probably right there meerkat but its far from foolproof. Newbs, teachers, learners, trickers should all make themselves aware of the guidelines. Esp. the 50M launch & land only zone which extends along the entire length of the beach.
See the site guide on www.waksa.org.au & introduce yourself to the locals when you first go there.
posko
posko
WA
179 posts
WA, 179 posts
18 Sep 2007 5:39pm
who ever you are and where ever you go, if you're a first timer at a beach talk to as many people as you can for the first hour to search all the little rules, laws and local preferences... Kite terrorists (tourists and noobys) are becoming a common hindrance in so many spots!

Are you an IKO or equivalent teacher? if so i'm sure shops are searching teachers for the summer season and would be stoked to talk to you...

if you're not a Qualified teacher... Just don't do it, send your mates to Darren M or SOS or Choice or Ian Young, s#!t there are a lot of good teachers that are in Perth and that will give you more time on the water and less time worrying about your mate breaking his neck or someone else's and then you being sued for it!!

imo
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