Sorry to bring this up on the main forum, but I thought the behaviour of some forum members was a clear sign of poor form.

I thought this forum was about kite surfing and that gear reviews are part of our sport. So if someone like myself can't write a review about a kite I just tested without being called a pimp who can???

1. I have always ridden what I like (I had Naish, Slingshot, Wipika, North, Flexifoil, Best and now Cabrinha). Currently Cabrinha is what I like best.

2. I always test new gear to see if there is something I like better than what I currently have. Some of you may say I'm full of **** for spending so much money on kiteboarding. Well, I work hard and kite boarding is what I look forward to. So let me do what I want with my money, and I won't tell you what should do with yours.

3. I have put quite a bit of time into those reviews and tried to be as objective as I can.

4. I have only compared the Contra to other Cabrinha kites. Unlike some of you guys, I haven't made other kites from other brands look bad in those comparisons

5. I have never at any point (again, unlike quite a few here) made claims that the Contra is the best kite ever, the highest jumping kite, the best hang time, the best wind range, etc.

People complain about any reviews:

Magazines: Complaint - They can't write anything bad about gear because they are affraid to lose the advertiser. Conlusion = No good. You guys will complain

Team Rider: Complaint - Team riders have to write good things about their brand. Otherwise they will lose their team rider deal. Conclusion = No good. You guys will complain

Shop Owner: Complaint - The shop owner has a financial interest. Conclusion = No good. You guys complain

Hmmm.... Conclusion = Let's not make any reviews, because you guys (the ones that complain) only like reading reveiws about your own brand and only if it's good. My conclusion = Stupid and No good.

So if you're not interested in a review don't read it. No one forces you to do so. But there are quite a few people thinking about what to buy and there are far too many choices to demo. Personally I would hope to see more reviews on Seabreeze so I know what I want to test next.

I can only summarize these reactions as poor form.

Moritz

I call shenanigans on your poor form.

Oh,you are a miserable lot!

I really enjoyed the up front enthusiasm from Moritz.

If you dont like it,dont read it.

Hey Moritz,

Don't get all stressed out mate, plenty of people enjoyed your reviews including me. I thought it was well written and thorough. My only comment is that it is a review of gear, and as such it belongs in the gear review section. It really stands to reason doesn't it?

We have a gear review section which is designated only for gear reviews, as such people who are interested in gear reviews go there where they do not have to schlep through the regular forum banter and can read only what they want unhindered.

Why even have a gear review section if you choose to bend the rules and post where ever you want? Next thing people will be putting for sale items in the General category because this too could be deemed of interest to kiters, but we don't because we have rules on this forum and topic categories which help keep the forum orderly.

No one wanted the posts deleted, just moved to their rightful place.

Good winds to all,

Thank you.

As some of you may have noticed, I don't post much on this forum. I simply assumed that similar to kiteforum.com most posts that are in other sections are not really read by many.

As a result, most people post on the main forum to ensure they get read and the discussion initiated. After a while, reviews get moved to the review section.

If this forum is different I'm happy to put future reviews in the review section. Bottom line is that the intention is to give others a view on a product. Many may not agree with it, but it may help some to narrow down their choices, not make them for them.

Moritz

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Originally posted by Kitehard

Hey Moritz,

Don't get all stressed out mate, plenty of people enjoyed your reviews including me. I thought it was well written and thorough. My only comment is that it is a review of gear, and as such it belongs in the gear review section. It really stands to reason doesn't it?

We have a gear review section which is designated only for gear reviews, as such people who are interested in gear reviews go there where they do not have to schlep through the regular forum banter and can read only what they want unhindered.

Why even have a gear review section if you choose to bend the rules and post where ever you want? Next thing people will be putting for sale items in the General category because this too could be deemed of interest to kiters, but we don't because we have rules on this forum and topic categories which help keep the forum orderly.

No one wanted the posts deleted, just moved to their rightful place.

Good winds to all,

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What do you mean"My only comment"?

You also said something along the lines of"Move it to the review section before you p1ss a lot of people off" !!!

Whos getting p1ssed off? You?

Totally uncalled for negativity.
Also,did not the heading make it quite clear what the subject was?

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Originally posted by mud duck

Can we rename the 'General' forum to 'Pile of useless sh1te' then?

But hey, this post just adds to it :)

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No offence, but it already carries that label...

No need to change a thing.

See-breeze pretty much says it all.

Regards
fo

PS..oops on tripple entry,,that's the hat trick..lol

Don't change a thing, emos is emos

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Hi Moritz

Thanks for your reviews on the contras. I found them really useful and didn't consider them pimping at all. However they should be in the review section where I normally look for reviews.

A person should be able to review a kite without fear of ridicule - how else can we find out how new gear performs without going out and testing all the new stuff ourselves. As long as the reviews are non-biased, objective and useful - bring them on.

Enough drbble.....

The winds up again, go and get your fix and who really gives a s....
Try befor you buy an you cant go wrong.
Waroo does it for me, I am so busy being stoked on kite surfing
or is that addicted ! I read all the posts on sea brezze and another forum as well in between sessions and I think that the dribblers need to get out a bit more and lighten up.

Downwinder Coolum to Sunshine today HEE hee heee haaa ha haa cheeers
Phil