Problems un-hooking

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kiteprincess
kiteprincess
QLD
9 posts
QLD, 9 posts
10 Mar 2011 12:15pm
Hi. Some advice please. I've recently tried unhooking with some issues. I am 84kg and flying a 10m Bandit 2. In about 14 knts I depower a fair bit, bare off downwind and unhook. It immediately feels like I'm chocking the kite and it wants to drop directly from 12 oclock into the wind window. The bar pressure is really strong and I fight to hook back in before the kite falls. I can't depower any more without losing momentum. Any tips? Steve
gezza1
gezza1
WA
64 posts
WA, 64 posts
10 Mar 2011 10:27am
you need to de-power your kite. pull the depower strap until you can pull the bar all the way in and the kite doesn't backstall
hope this helps
ewan kite
ewan kite
VIC
928 posts
VIC, 928 posts
10 Mar 2011 1:35pm
14 knots isnt enough to unhook in, thats most likely your problem. on a 10m i need 16 knots and im 70kg's. also dont put your kite at 12 to start to unhook. put it around 11 for your first time.
Paul1
Paul1
QLD
1011 posts
QLD, 1011 posts
10 Mar 2011 2:00pm
You are doing everything right, just practice more. You really should not need to de-power your kite at all in 14 knots at 84kgs, in fact I am surprised you get going at all, is this on a surfboard?
superlizard
superlizard
VIC
702 posts
VIC, 702 posts
10 Mar 2011 3:20pm
i'm convinced the issue is lack of wind. I wouldn't bother kiting in less then 18 knots, let alone tying to unhook.
yeehaa
yeehaa
QLD
123 posts
QLD, 123 posts
10 Mar 2011 7:41pm
Yeah super lizzard is right.
You need heaps more wind and more speed. Don't depower the kite either prob under 18 kts with a 10m. I know the bandits are strong, but you won't have enough power if you de-power. When you do it right the first time it should prob feel a little out of control and over powered, but thats what you want to be able to load against your kite. This is for wake style anyway, not sure about surf. What are you trying to do?
axis
axis
VIC
399 posts
VIC, 399 posts
10 Mar 2011 11:40pm
I would be on a 13 Fuel in that wind and if unhooking going downwind.

If you unhook underpowered the kite will backstall so even though you don't want to you will need some depower on.

As all above, more wind, pull trim in on the beach until you can unhook without the kite backstalling.
ok
ok
NSW
1089 posts
ok ok
NSW, 1089 posts
11 Mar 2011 12:44am
learn to hold on and edge
richswing
richswing
WA
724 posts
WA, 724 posts
10 Mar 2011 10:04pm
At the Ben Wilson wave clinic they went though the steps on unhooking or at least getting comfortable. This must be done in open space clear of objects and people. After comfy try the same on the board.
Here's the steps:
1. Tune kite so that it does not back stall when the bar is against CL and the kite is at 45 deg.
2. Place kite at 45, start walking towards it, place hands at the centre of bar and unhook ( make sure hands are centered.
3. Keep walking unhooked and feel the kite
4. When ready to hook in, grab CL with back hand at the same time depowering with left hand and hook in.

I don't know what level you are at but it may help.
Cheers
Rich
Lovely
Lovely
QLD
248 posts
QLD, 248 posts
11 Mar 2011 12:54am
Lose the bridal kite.
C kites fly better unhooked.
richswing
richswing
WA
724 posts
WA, 724 posts
10 Mar 2011 11:01pm
Yer,what happened to that post, got too politically incorrect?
sir ROWDY
sir ROWDY
WA
5378 posts
WA, 5378 posts
11 Mar 2011 12:01am
Should buy a 2 line and ditch the harness.
koma
koma
VIC
760 posts
VIC, 760 posts
11 Mar 2011 10:26am
The way i had it explained to me when i first started unhooking was to trim the kite so you could hold the bar at the stopper (fully powered) for 3 seconds. If you got pulled off your edge after 3 seconds then that was fine.

As the others have said, 14 knots is for drinking beer and pumping up a kite. Wait till you've got ~16-17kn before you try unhooking.
kiteprincess
kiteprincess
QLD
9 posts
QLD, 9 posts
11 Mar 2011 11:28am
Thanks guys. I agree the problem is probably lack of wind. The step by step guide sounds useful. In regards to flying the bandit, I've had a few different kites, not C's, and find it the best all-rounder. I've found bigger kites too slow now I'm advancing more, but smaller kites here in Hervey Bay Qld, means I'm on the beach too often. Would love to only go out in 16-22 but that would mean kiting maybe 15 times a year around here! Thanks again, Steve.
eppo
eppo
WA
9793 posts
WA, 9793 posts
11 Mar 2011 10:01am

Hey really useful tips here, especially the ben wilson instruction. Cheers for that.
walshd
walshd
SA
601 posts
SA, 601 posts
11 Mar 2011 1:14pm
kiteprincess said...

Thanks guys. I agree the problem is probably lack of wind. The step by step guide sounds useful. In regards to flying the bandit, I've had a few different kites, not C's, and find it the best all-rounder. I've found bigger kites too slow now I'm advancing more, but smaller kites here in Hervey Bay Qld, means I'm on the beach too often. Would love to only go out in 16-22 but that would mean kiting maybe 15 times a year around here! Thanks again, Steve.


Funny name for a chic
Poida
Poida
WA
1922 posts
WA, 1922 posts
11 Mar 2011 11:14am
i find it helps to be ready to grab the Chicken Loop with one hand and push the bar out with the other hand, and if worst case just hold onto chicken loop and hook back in, then grab bar and steer kite. a bridle kite will let you do that. I heard the bandits a good for unhooked.
kiteprincess
kiteprincess
QLD
9 posts
QLD, 9 posts
11 Mar 2011 3:45pm
You're right, Steve is a funny name for a chick. Kiteprincess is my wife. When I tried creating a profile using the same email address it wouldn't let me, so I am forever known as Steve the kiteprincess!
NJPornstar
NJPornstar
WA
790 posts
WA, 790 posts
11 Mar 2011 2:07pm
Small powerful kites stall too much when unhooked.

Its best using a little bit bigger kite that has good top end. Always tune the kite before unhooking by closing the depower strap.

If you have tension on the back lines the kite will fly backwards. Tension on the front lines the kite will fly forwards.

A fast turning kite isn't real good for unhooked or experts wanting to do big air tricks.
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