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HungLong
HungLong
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3 Apr 2005 5:17pm
Hey Can anyone tell me the "Nice" area's of brisbane to live ?

I've got a map and have only been there a couple of time, but I dont realy know the good area's to live in...

any help would be appreciated...
bondo
bondo
QLD
699 posts
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3 Apr 2005 9:18pm
Heya Brownee,

If you want to be close to a good launch you want to be near Wellington Point on the southside or redcliffe on the north - try Wellington Point, Ormiston, Cleveland, Thorneside and maybe even Birkdale or Victoria Point on the south. Not too familiar with the northside, but redcliffe and sandgate obviously to be near brighton kite beach.

as far as south side goes - avoid capalaba and alexandra hills - they are ok, but have a fairly high density of cross eyed petrol headed bogans.

going closer to the city, there are some really nice places around greenslopes, hawthorne & balmoral, tarragindi, new farm, red hill. they get pricey in this range though. also, if your close to the city you have fairly easy access to the gold coast highway which will get you to sufers paradise in under an hour (same goes for any of the southside suburbs)

i would be wrong to assume you're moving here eh? well, if you do, can you bring some more wind
Andrew73
Andrew73
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3 Apr 2005 7:39pm
I used to live in East Brissy before I moved overseas, but when I move back I will be intending to move closer to the kite surfing spots (yes certified addict). So I'm thinking Sandgate, Brighton in the north and Wellington point, Cleveland in the south. Both have train lines if you intend to work in the CBD. Redcliffe is good also but if you have to work in the city you will have to take into account the choke point which is the Houghton Bridge. A train line was intended for Redcliffe, but I think it has now been shelved as not being cost effective.
Hope that helps.

PS I actually learnt to kite once I left Oz, and to think I lived in Perth for 7 yrs and never took it up IDIOT... I started learning wind surfing just before I left and it was enough for me to realize I wasn't into having a small lorry to transport my gear.
Just a quick question for those of you who live in and around Brissy/SSC/GC what are the best months for kiting, wind stats wize.
Thanks
Andrew
HungLong
HungLong
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3 Apr 2005 9:37pm
thanks bondo, I'll check em out on the web...
kiteboy dave
kiteboy dave
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4 Apr 2005 1:54pm
You need to decide or say whether you are going to work in the city every day. If you want to live right near Wello or Brighton it will be nearly an hour commute to work in the city going with the peak hour flow, but great for kiting. If you live in the city or inner suburbs, most of the time you can get to brighton in 25-30 mins or wello in 10 mins more - so long as you avoid peak hour!

Bondo and Andrew are right, but I'd add that if you move near Brighton definitely stay south of the bridge it's a jungle up there! Redcliffe backs onto Deception bay, which is known as one of the north side's ****tiest suburbs, up there with Inala/Darra/Goodna etc on the southside. Brighton or Sandgate itself would be my pic, or there's some nice bits of Taigum which is only 10 mins to Brighton beach.
waveslave
waveslave
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4 Apr 2005 12:08pm
I'd live on North Stradbroke Is which happens to be the closest surf to Brisbane CBD as the crow flys.
Of course commuting to the city everyday would be out of the question.........That leaves the whole day available to surf, kite and chill.
Life's a beach.
HungLong
HungLong
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4 Apr 2005 3:50pm
I'd be working from the airport/eagle farm...
puppetonastring
puppetonastring
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4 Apr 2005 3:51pm
Hey whats happened to 'next door to Woodies' plans ?????
bondo
bondo
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4 Apr 2005 6:27pm

you might be better off up towards redcliffe then. going from the southside to the airport you need to cross the gateway toll bridge ($2.20 each way) and it can get crazy in peak hour. from redcliffe though its plain sailing on the motorway...
Andrew73
Andrew73
WA
31 posts
WA, 31 posts
4 Apr 2005 8:32pm
I like your idea waveslave, stuff working. Unfortunatly I need money to buy essentials such a new kite, board etc, oh yeh then theres food for the table.

If I were you Hunglong I would defintely look at living in Brighton or Sandgate, nice and easy drive to the airport or you could even catch the air train if you were so inclined, but that might waste valuable mins that could have been used on the water.
Lynita
Lynita
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60 posts
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5 Apr 2005 8:00pm
Well if you are working at the airport, then there's really no choice - Brighton / Sandgate would be the pick. Now my question to you Andrew - hows the wind in Dubai??? From my research its pretty light, yeah? What size kites are ppl flying there. How often you get kitable wind? Might visit, but CANNOT travel to anywhere void of wind and water.

To answer your question - wind is best in Bris Sept-Nov, not so good June-August. But that way you have 3 months to schedule all of your un-kite-related activities (snowboarding/mtn biking/surfing/house repairs/overseas holidays (to kiting destinations)/etc)that have been untouched from the previous 9 months. Works well.
Andrew73
Andrew73
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5 Apr 2005 9:58pm
Hi Lynita to answer your question most guys are on 16-18m kites with the girls riding 14-16m probably 80% of the time. The other 15% time I'm on a 14m. Once in a blue moon you might dust off the 8m.
The best time for kiting over here is suppose to be from Feb to Jun, with March supposable being the most reliable month. We didn't get a great lot of good wind this year though in March. Kiting over here in Summer makes for interesting times with a esky full of ice and cold water mandatory, with frequent drink breaks.
There are some really good places not to far away though which are the likes of the Red Sea, Oman, the Med. Oman and the red sea start cranking with the onset of summer. If I were you then I wouldn't bother coming to kite in the Uae, just use it as a FOB and move on to Oman or the likes. Its also much cooler at these destinations.
Thanks for the beta on the Brissy winds.
HungLong
HungLong
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859 posts
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7 Apr 2005 9:40am
Thanks guys for all of your ideas & comments. My Wife and I have got our selves a big map of brisi and highighted all of the places you mensioned.

My interview has been put off till next month, so will have to wait for the verdicted... I hate waiting !

Now I have a few more questions, about schools, house's etc etc...

In the area you all mensioned which are ok, do any of you have or know kids schools in these area which are good, were looking to the future as our oldest is only 3, with the youngest 6 weeks.

In regards to house, I'm having a hard time getting my head around these "queenslander" house's... whats the go with them. It may sound silly but we are holding off signing the contracts with our builders here in Perth for our bigass 4 X 2 home with everything near the beach... You're probably thinking why are we thinking of moving, well it's a career move for at least 3 years, double my pay etc etc etc and bring "best" to QLD... any more comments would be really appreciated

Victoria Point,
Cleveland,
Ormiston,
Wellington Point,
Birkdale,
Thorneside,
Balmoral,
Hawthorne,
New Farm,
Greenslopes,
Tarragindi,
Red Hill,
Taigum,
Sandgate,
brighton,
Redcliffe.

regards browneee
Andrew73
Andrew73
WA
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7 Apr 2005 1:15pm
Hi Browneee,

Can't help you in regards to info about schools as we don't have any kids ourselves yet. But we brought a Queenslander in East Brisbane in 2003 and its a great old house. Its 90 years old and still as strong as the day it was built. We completely gutted the old bathroom and put in a new one, also replaced the roof before we moved otherseas as the original iron roof was starting to show it age and we didn't want to have problems with it whilst we are away. Some people will say that they are high maintaince but we haven't found that at all. They are character homes and as such will always hold their age better than any modern homes that are built these
days. I will be looking for another in Brighton/Sandgate when we move back later this year.
BallaBooyeah
BallaBooyeah
WA
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12 Apr 2005 8:03pm
Hi All on this post - A newbie here in a few ways.
Well I was searching for places to move to in Brisbane as I am moving back to Oz after living in Ireland for a skint. I am from the northern suburbs in Sydney but due to crazy house prices and to much traffic the Wife and I are bringing the kids - 2 years and 5 months to QLD.
We want to live on the sunshine coast but the work in IT there is well it aint there. House peices are reasonable but then I ust searched on Redcliffe. Looks like a not so hard commute to Brisbane and it is buy the water and wind.
Bit of history there - Well watersking & wakeboarding since a kid - Snowboarding and my snapped wrist due to rocky conditions in Persiher has pulled the reigns on that sport - Windsurfing for a few years and dying to get on a kite. I have been lacking watersports since moving to Europe, I went cable sking in a waterpark out of London - I had to pick of the leeches of myself once I was finished - plus cable is nothing like on the back of a boat.

I am looking at real estate web sites and not sure about the area's in Redcliffe - I can drive to the beach not a wory but the commute the Brisbane I don't want to be a killer. What's this about a toll? What are the options for driving to Brisbane from the diffrent area's in Redcliffe? what is a standard peak and non-peak times for CBD? What public transport is available if I don't drive in (not sure if I get a car spot).
Love to hear from ya and to go kiting with you when I get my now fat lazy ass back to Oz later this year.

Peace 5000

Balla
bondo
bondo
QLD
699 posts
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12 Apr 2005 10:33pm
hey mate - there is only a toll from southside suburbs to the northside suburbs. you can get to the city from redcliffe on another road.

just dont use sydneys traffic jams as an excuse to move here - the traffic in brisbane in peak hour is horrendous.

heres an idea - why not move to perth, i hear its windy there
kusu
kusu
QLD
485 posts
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13 Apr 2005 5:46pm
If your choices are open - definately perth.
Redcliffe will be at least and 45min - 1hour in peak by car to the cbd.
It is also still pretty feral around there - try some nice midway suburbs like wavell heights, chermside etc. you can get a nice place for around the 350 mark.
Lynita
Lynita
QLD
60 posts
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14 Apr 2005 2:01pm
Balla, I'm relocated from Sydney, and traffic in Bris is like a walk in the park on Sunday by comparison, similar goes for house prices. If you're trying to move to Redcliffe to be closer to the Sunnie coast forget it, especially if you're going to work in the city. All the disadvantages of far proximity to the city (not the nicest area, think Penrith; not great public transport) and it won't save much time getting to the Sunny Coast. Redcliffe IS one of my fav places to kite, but I'd rather drive the 45mins against the traffic to kite there. Also if you want beach, Gold Coast is 45 mins from Bris city.

Kiting will stop me moving back to Sydney, I can't afford to live near the beach, and it would take to long to get to the beach for kiting from anywhere I could afford to live.
loose fin
loose fin
QLD
219 posts
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14 Apr 2005 2:10pm
Sydney sucks

half of the Aussie population can have it

not sure why they all live there

they all still want to believe that theyve got connections with the outback Aussie way of life too, cracks me up
Lynita
Lynita
QLD
60 posts
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14 Apr 2005 2:28pm
Loose Fin, You're obviously not from Sydney then. I still miss it, and I've been gone 4.5 years. I try to concentrate on the positives - less traffic and lower house prices, ease of reaching kiting locations, ergh thats all I can think of.
Andrew73
Andrew73
WA
31 posts
WA, 31 posts
14 Apr 2005 12:29pm
I've lived in Perth,Sydney and Brisbane and I rate Brisbane as the best place to live. Sydney is great if you are a multi millionare with money to burn and can afford to live on the water, otherwise its a rat race.
Perth has got reliable wind in summer and is a very clean city with affordable living. The problem with perth is its isolation and insulation from the rest of Australia. Perth is quite layed back, but crime does tend to be a bit higher (compared to Brisbane) for some unknown reason.
What I love about Bribane is its layed back lifestyle and convience to the rest of Australia/ New Zealand, especially with all the low cost airlines flying now days.
But I would avoid Redcliff if you are going to be working in the CBD, as has previously been explained.
My aim is to spend Summers in Perth to take advantage of the wind and then the rest of the year in Brissy or somewhere else on the east coast (Apart from Sydney).
waveslave
waveslave
WA
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14 Apr 2005 5:23pm
Hey HungLong,
Seeing that you're working out of the airport, have you considered the option of living north end of Gold Coast and then commute by train to Brisbane. The trainline runs directly to the airport.

There's some hot kiting around that part of the Coast.
derek72
derek72
WA
50 posts
WA, 50 posts
14 Apr 2005 6:50pm
I live on the Gold Coast and have a friend who lives here and works at Brissie airport. He drives and it takes about 45 minutes (at 4AM or whatever). I am new to kiting but have windsurfed here for years and it's pretty good. North end of coast has a popular spot on the broadwater at Labrador and Narrowneck is great too but i only go there on a south easter with small swell (for now).

I also work in IT and luckily snagged a job with a global company with headquarters in Southport (central gold coast on the water). Brisbane seems pretty good for IT jobs and a couple of my colleagues live up there (Manly area) and commute down to the Goldie for work. They either kite here to show me how it's done or up at wello or vic point.

If i end up workin in bris i reckon i'll either stay here near the M1 and commute up there or move to Manly area or maybe closer in like greenslopes. My girlfriend used to commute up and tried driving for a while but after a few 2 hour disaster drives to work she changed to the train.
BallaBooyeah
BallaBooyeah
WA
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19 Apr 2005 9:36pm
WOW - Thanks for the input. If Redcliffe is anything like Penrith then It is a no-go zone for me. I grew up on Balmoral Beach and that's the type of area I want to live in Brisbane.

From other research I hear that Brisbane is not got nice beaches at all. The redcliffe beaches I have heard described and muddy wetlands. Ohh Well back to the drawing boards.

Can anyone fill me in on other suburbs like Chermside and Wavell Heights?

Thanks again for the input - hope to see ya all on the water by next year.

Andrew

GreenPat
GreenPat
QLD
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20 Apr 2005 2:30pm
I too have lived in Brisbane, Sydney and Perth. Perth is number one for me. Unlike Andrew, I think the isolation is a bonus. The beaches are better and the wind in the on season is better. It's a shorter season, but you'd probably get more days on the water per year in Perth. And the kite scene there is way more advanced. There is a bit more crime but it's negligible. Especially compared to Johannesburg where I live now - world crime capital.

I've only had the chance to kite Brisbane at Wellington Point and Brighton Beach, and they are both kak. Wello is a bugger of a place to launch and land (at high tide anyway, which is the only time I've been there), and Brighton is skanky muddy with jellyfish everywhere.
kiteboy dave
kiteboy dave
QLD
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21 Apr 2005 7:01pm
Stay south of the bridge to redcliffe. They have just announced a new bridge but it will be years away and they aren't building a train line extension across it (by the sound of it).

Every beach has it's down sides, brighton does have bad jellys for 2-3 months of the year and wello is suckful at full high or low tide. I'm yet to hear of the perfect year-round kiting beach... maybe that kite resort gumball from best is opening in brazil - free accommodation if it's not blowing 20kts? Surf on one side, purpose built floodlit lakes for flat water and night kiting etc on the other, a slider/kicker park. etc etc.. that sounds pretty perfect I guess..

Even South Africa (one of my absolute favourite places in the world) has it's drawbacks, cape town has great wind but 8 degree water in mid summer anyone? Putting a wettie on when it's 35 degree air temp, that's just wierd, not to mention sweaty.
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