Reading the wind

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Big eeeZeee
Big eeeZeee
NSW
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NSW, 1100 posts
13 Jan 2011 9:37pm
Ok, so I check seabreeze and the bom for general run downs on the wind in certain locations. However I am thinking about trying to actually learn how to read the graphs and make sense of highs and lows and all that jazz. Will doing so save me time waiting for the wind on the beach and driving an hour east, west and north? I have been caught out a few times when i've referenced bom and seabreeze, and headed an hour out to the beach thinking it will kick in, and there hasn't been a sparrow's fart worth of wind around.

Is it time to get educated?
GRunner
GRunner
QLD
238 posts
QLD, 238 posts
13 Jan 2011 9:28pm
Experts get it wrong. What makes you feel you're going to get it right?
Big eeeZeee
Big eeeZeee
NSW
1100 posts
NSW, 1100 posts
14 Jan 2011 12:16am
Yeah experts do get it wrong mate. I think ill get it right because I'm god.


I'm trying to educate myself and therefore make more educated guesses when I'm driving an hour to get to a spot. Seabreeze and Bom offer a rough summary. I'd like to know whether I'd be better off being able to interpret the weather than just a green arrow or 20 knots around lunch?
ApatheticEnd
ApatheticEnd
WA
995 posts
WA, 995 posts
13 Jan 2011 9:19pm
If Seabreeze live readings show a turn in wind direction and strength at about midday, or green arows, I get in the car. If I get to the beach and there are whitecaps, I pump up. If not, I wait. That's about as complex as my weather predictions efforts are.

Why not learn though if you're keen?

Toots
Toots
WA
271 posts
WA, 271 posts
14 Jan 2011 1:55am
trust no one
gesper
gesper
NSW
518 posts
NSW, 518 posts
14 Jan 2011 11:09am
This link should give you some understanding of forecasting the wind
www.bom.gov.au/info/ftweather/index.shtml
When you have finished reading it can you please let me know what the winds doing tomorrow
When you realize whats involved with weather forecasting I think you can understand why the experts get it wrong sometimes.
Ask the local guys that have been living there for a while for their knowledge of wind in that area (this could save you a lot of driving itself)
Good luck
Mister Dugong
Mister Dugong
368 posts
368 posts
14 Jan 2011 8:28am
Start now ... So in time you will get a good feel for it. It's not hard I don't get what the fuss is about.. But then back in the day you could only predict swell quite roughly. And wind about three days or somin advance unless the pattern was really set in.
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But now!!!! I would just love the Internet to shut down so
I could get some uncrowded surf!!!!!

There is always more to learn.. I started at 13 and 20'years later I really only just started understanding the trough movements coz I started to kite and quit cursing the seabreeze!! Lol
KnutH
KnutH
VIC
427 posts
VIC, 427 posts
14 Jan 2011 12:07pm
You gotta understand the local effects as well.
E.g. for VIC:
When its 30kn Easterly at Fawkener, you often get just ~25 knots in Altona, and even less when its NE.
On a 30kn Northerly, measured at South Channel island, you might get 20kn or less in Frankston and 25kn in Rosebud at the beach.
On a SW/WSW Altona often has a tad less wind than St Kilda and Brighton.
In St Kilda, the breezes are likely to be a knot or two stronger due to the city heating up more..
rumblefish
rumblefish
TAS
824 posts
TAS, 824 posts
14 Jan 2011 12:13pm
As a yachtie who does the occassional distance offshore race I use this alot.

www.bom.gov.au/marine/wind.shtml

I find I can see what's coming much better than SB at times and also shows me the whole coast, not just set locations.
laurie
laurie
QLD
3900 posts
QLD, 3900 posts
14 Jan 2011 12:43pm
Yes, the highs & lows (synoptics) are the key to getting a better idea of why green arrows are forecast is being able to read synoptic charts, and they're not that hard to understand. Especially in winter, where you can "pick your fronts" - you'll be able to tell a real epic one from a fizzer.

Some info here: www.seabreeze.com.au/info/wind.asp

(When looking at the 7 day forecast graph, click on it to view the synoptics)
walshd
walshd
SA
601 posts
SA, 601 posts
14 Jan 2011 1:32pm
Yep its pretty easy. Highs go anti-clockwise, Lows go clockwise.

If a low is below 980 you know its going to be a howling front. The closer the isobars, the windier it will be.
GalahOnTheBay
GalahOnTheBay
NSW
4188 posts
NSW, 4188 posts
14 Jan 2011 7:48pm
Toots said...

trust no one


lol true.

Except when your mate rings you from the beach and tells you its going off, but even then make her walk in to the wind so you can hear it for yourself.
saltiest1
saltiest1
NSW
2573 posts
NSW, 2573 posts
15 Jan 2011 1:18am
as kids we had to learn without technology. just a weather map. now thats learning to read! especially as every area has its own characteristics.
INTHELOOP
INTHELOOP
QLD
1855 posts
QLD, 1855 posts
15 Jan 2011 1:42am
Big eeeZeee said...

Yeah experts do get it wrong mate. I think ill get it right because I'm god.


I'm trying to educate myself and therefore make more educated guesses when I'm driving an hour to get to a spot. Seabreeze and Bom offer a rough summary. I'd like to know whether I'd be better off being able to interpret the weather than just a green arrow or 20 knots around lunch?


hey mate,

you best bet is to get buoyweather.com, get a pro account and set your buoys where you are interested in kiting.
It is the most accurate forecast. you can get 7 days in advance forecast

Marve
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